Opinions Trek 1000



Apparently a nicer ride, less of the shock from the road goes straight up to
the handlebars (its a cross ply weave at 45 degrees to the user - if that
makes any sense!!). I bought a specialised Allez after my claud butler fell
to bits (after 6 moinths!! the bike from hell....). This has the carbon fork
and I must say I am impressed - noticably less shock from the road when
compared to aluminium forks.
Indeed it may be worth considering the Specialized Allez road bike range,
must say I've been very impressed by mine!
>
> Why is a carbon fork important ? How different is it from a steel fork,
> except probably weight ? I currently ride both a steel bike and an alu
> bike with carbon fork; they behave very differently for several reasons,
> but I'm not sure fork material has any part in this.
>
 
Raoul Duke wrote:
> "Brett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>Maybe in the future, Trek will offer better colors on the 1200 and 1500.

>
> I am assuming, by your name, that you are not a female. So, why the HELL do
> you care what the color of the bike is, so long as it's not pink or some foo
> foo color?


If you're going to fork over $800 dollars for a bicycle,
I think having a color you like is fairly important.

If the bike is a $50 tag sale item, it can be pink and
I'll handle it with some spray paint later.


SMH
 
"Bob Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:53:45 -0400, "Brett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The 1200 is a nicer bike and beside nicer overall
>>components, it has something important - carbon forks. However, the
>>1200's
>>candy apple red is a deal breaker. I'd rather spend less for less bike
>>and
>>get the 1000's Pearl White/Baja Blue.

>
> Look at the 2005 models, new colors.
>
> http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1200.jsp
>
> COLORS Metallic Black/Brushed Aluminum
>
>
> ---
> "BitwiseBob" - Bob Anderson
> Eugene Oregon


Thanks for the link. I don't like the particular color above but did find
the new 1000 WSD http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1000wsd.jsp seems
worthy. It seems to have much better components than the 2004 model. They
have a carbon forks and seatposts now. Still using the Sora brakes and Alex
rims though. Seems worth the $630 and probably less at the LBS.

Brett
 
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:19:42 GMT, "Yuri Budilov"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I also upgraded the saddle (from
>Trek 1500) and most importantly, replaced the stock brake pads (awful,
>unsafe, cheap, nasty) with DuraAce pads (much better, but ideally go for
>KoolStop Salmon if you can).


Yeah, after only about 2 weeks of riding some small hills, mine
started making a strange grinding noise. I immediately realized I had
worn the back brakes down to the metal.

Took it in and the bike mechanic started chuckling "Let's put some
-real- brake pads on this puppy". Why Trek puts substandard pads on, I
don't know. He put on KoolStop regular, black pads.

The 'Salmon' seem to be good in wet conditions too.

http://www.koolstop.com/brakes/#Anchor-These-7905

-B
 
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:29:12 -0400, "Brett" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Thanks.
>
>Besides price, what is the difference in the 1500 and 1200? Besides
>decribing those components, what exactly do I feel on the road thta is
>different? I don't know what it means when you say a shifter does this and
>looks this way vs this and that. But if you say, you'll feel this and here
>is what else happens, I can understand better.


Trek used to have a feature on the bottom of the page that said what
parts were better from the previous model in the line. You can do the
'compare' feature and look, and you can go to 'Roadbikereview.com' and
see what others have said.

Some bikes may be put together better by a specific LBS guy, I don't
know. There are some things that seem to work fine on one bike from
one dealer, reading accts here, and another has some (minor) problems.
Probably due to rider variabilities.

As far as what you feel...hard to say. I guess for me, I want the
shifting to be smoo-o-th and quiet and positive, definitely don't want
the chain falling off. I refer to it as 'transparent' to the ride. <g>

The pictures on the site seem to show a greater 'angle' between the
seat and the bars (more of a racing slant), but that could just be the
way they're set up.

What I'll do to compare by eye, is cut and past the pic into my
graphics program, and then make background transparent and paste the
other model on top. Dopey, but fun and quick comparison.

Best thing is to go ride a range of bikes in that line, eh? Of course
some LBS can be more or less enthusiastic on helping you do that. One
guy reported that his LBS guy had the various 2-3 bikes in the chosen
model lined up outside the store for him when he finished with one
bike, he hopped on the next pick. Nice!

Uh, supposedly the Ultegra has the most positive shifting, and I
-believe- some parts that might be plastic or something on lower
grades are made of more durable stuff. I was told here not to put much
stock in the 'sealed bearings' claim. Oh, and higher grade components
supposedly lighter (by grams). One break point is that the Shimano 105
is the 'beginning racing' model. If price is less an object, many ppl
will go with Ultegra rather than bothering with the top of the line
and report minimal difference in feel and stuff.

Others say Campy all the way, hah.

-B
 
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:21:29 -0400, Brett wrote:

> What do you mean by "treat them badly"?


Ride over a lot of bumps or potholes - how else would you mistreat a
road wheel, apart from crashing into stuff?

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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:19:15 -0400, Brett wrote:

> I'm strictly referring to maintenance and durability. I thought that was
> implied. I have no doubt a Trek 1000 will smoothly pass my Trek 800 anyday.


Ah. Well, there's no free lunch.

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Brett wrote:
> "Bob Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...


>> Look at the 2005 models, new colors.
>>
>> http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1200.jsp



> Thanks for the link. I don't like the particular color above but did
> find the new 1000 WSD
> http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1000wsd.jsp seems worthy.
> It seems to have much better components than the 2004 model. They
> have a carbon forks and seatposts now. Still using the Sora brakes
> and Alex rims though. Seems worth the $630 and probably less at the
> LBS.


WSD = Woman Specific Design.

Bill "just so ya know" S.
 
"Colin Swift" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Apparently a nicer ride, less of the shock from the road goes straight up to
> the handlebars (its a cross ply weave at 45 degrees to the user - if that
> makes any sense!!). I bought a specialised Allez after my claud butler fell
> to bits (after 6 moinths!! the bike from hell....). This has the carbon fork
> and I must say I am impressed - noticably less shock from the road when
> compared to aluminium forks.
> Indeed it may be worth considering the Specialized Allez road bike range,
> must say I've been very impressed by mine!


I've got to echo the comments about Specialized bikes. I bought a
2003 Allez for about $600. I didn't really want the Sora components
that came on the Trek 1000. I wanted a Trek, but didn't want to spend
the $$ to get up to a 1200. After a bunch of test-rides, I finally
settled on an Allez that felt really good. (Didn't give a rip about
the color, which is black.)

At the time I heard rumors that Trek bikes tend to be priced up a bit
because of their US Postal pedigree. Dunno if that's true, but I felt
like I got more bike for the $$ with the Allez. After 2 years, I
still love the feel and the shifters have been great.

Ultimately, though, you have to go with what feels the best on the
road. Try several frame sizes and stem lengths and you'll probably
find one that feels just right.

JR
 
Badger_South wrote:
>
> Others say Campy all the way, hah.


My bike's got Campy components. Centaur mostly, but it has the nice
Record carbon shifters (by accident).

I don't know enough to have a clue what the difference is between
Shimano and Campagnola. All I know is, when I want my bike to shift, it
shifts. That's all I care about.

-km

--
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the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie
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"Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Brett wrote:
>> "Bob Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...

>
>>> Look at the 2005 models, new colors.
>>>
>>> http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1200.jsp

>
>
>> Thanks for the link. I don't like the particular color above but did
>> find the new 1000 WSD
>> http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1000wsd.jsp seems worthy.
>> It seems to have much better components than the 2004 model. They
>> have a carbon forks and seatposts now. Still using the Sora brakes
>> and Alex rims though. Seems worth the $630 and probably less at the
>> LBS.

>
> WSD = Woman Specific Design.
>
> Bill "just so ya know" S.
>


Foiled again!
 
I like the white and orange paint job on the 2005 model. I ordered one and
am hoping that it arrives this week.

Jeff

"Brett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bob Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:53:45 -0400, "Brett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>The 1200 is a nicer bike and beside nicer overall
> >>components, it has something important - carbon forks. However, the
> >>1200's
> >>candy apple red is a deal breaker. I'd rather spend less for less bike
> >>and
> >>get the 1000's Pearl White/Baja Blue.

> >
> > Look at the 2005 models, new colors.
> >
> > http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1200.jsp
> >
> > COLORS Metallic Black/Brushed Aluminum
> >
> >
> > ---
> > "BitwiseBob" - Bob Anderson
> > Eugene Oregon

>
> Thanks for the link. I don't like the particular color above but did find
> the new 1000 WSD http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1000wsd.jsp

seems
> worthy. It seems to have much better components than the 2004 model.

They
> have a carbon forks and seatposts now. Still using the Sora brakes and

Alex
> rims though. Seems worth the $630 and probably less at the LBS.
>
> Brett
>
>
 
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 01:18:37 -0700, "Raoul Duke" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Brett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> Maybe in the future, Trek will offer better colors on the 1200 and 1500.

>
>I am assuming, by your name, that you are not a female. So, why the HELL do
>you care what the color of the bike is, so long as it's not pink or some foo
>foo color?
>
>Dave


Heck some do care, me, I'm kinda with you, in that when you're sitting
on the bike, you can't tell, really, what color it is, heh.

But what if the bike was red and Jobst saw you!? Peacock-ville. Oh,
the horrors.

-B
 
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:24:58 -0400, "Brett" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Brett wrote:
>>> "Bob Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...

>>
>>>> Look at the 2005 models, new colors.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1200.jsp

>>
>>
>>> Thanks for the link. I don't like the particular color above but did
>>> find the new 1000 WSD
>>> http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/road/1000wsd.jsp seems worthy.
>>> It seems to have much better components than the 2004 model. They
>>> have a carbon forks and seatposts now. Still using the Sora brakes
>>> and Alex rims though. Seems worth the $630 and probably less at the
>>> LBS.

>>
>> WSD = Woman Specific Design.
>>
>> Bill "just so ya know" S.
>>

>
>Foiled again!


Sir, would you like tinfoil, aluminum foil, or carbon fiber foil with
that? <eg>

-B
 
Yes, that is true for USA. For whatever reason Trek in Australia seem to
have different models and configurations. For example all road bikes (even
Trek 1000) come with double chain ring, not triple or double ring choice
like in USA, some models on sale down here are not even available in USA
such as Trek 1400. The information I posted came from my LBS, a Trek dealer.
Granted he may have been misinformed. We shall see.....

My LBS said we, down under, get Trek 2000 (not available in USA in 2005?)
and our Trek 1500 is expected to have U-10 speed. Time will tell.

Cheers

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> As Mike said, go for Trek 2005 range if you can. I hear new Trek 1500
>> will have 10 speed Ultegra in 2005 and some more.

>
> The new 1500 is already out, and doesn't have (nor will have later)
> Ultegra 10-speed on it. Ultegra 10 is due out sometime in November, and
> will be a significant upcharge (about $200) over Ultegra 9.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>