Orange 5 Pro



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gravelrAsh

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Hi

Anybody riding an Orange 5 Pro out there? Thinking of buying one, wondering
about any issues. I'll hang fire for the 2005 model. I want to keep the
suspension linkage simple as most riding will be done in the boggy, gritty
Peak District (UK).

Ash
 
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:51:53 +0000, gravelrAsh wrote:

> Hi
>
> Anybody riding an Orange 5 Pro out there? Thinking of buying one, wondering
> about any issues. I'll hang fire for the 2005 model. I want to keep the
> suspension linkage simple as most riding will be done in the boggy, gritty
> Peak District (UK).


Don't be soft, go for the P7 :)

The 5 has a good rep, although it's a single pivot and comes with the
obvious pros / cons of such a design. If I was thinking of FS, it's
something I'd definitely look at. In the same price range, you may want to
look at the Marin Mount Vision, or some of the Special'Ed offerings.
 
"bomba" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:51:53 +0000, gravelrAsh wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Anybody riding an Orange 5 Pro out there? Thinking of buying one,

wondering
> > about any issues. I'll hang fire for the 2005 model. I want to keep

the
> > suspension linkage simple as most riding will be done in the boggy,

gritty
> > Peak District (UK).

>
> Don't be soft, go for the P7 :)
>
> The 5 has a good rep, although it's a single pivot and comes with the
> obvious pros / cons of such a design. If I was thinking of FS, it's
> something I'd definitely look at. In the same price range, you may want to
> look at the Marin Mount Vision, or some of the Special'Ed offerings.
>


I looked at the Marin at the same time as the Orange at my LBS. I would
have had a Marin as slightly better spec. The quad linkage put me off.
Marin used to have a single pivot until John Whyte designed them. I ain't
convinced they're suited to UK riding conditions.
 
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:58:47 +0000, gravelrAsh wrote:

> I looked at the Marin at the same time as the Orange at my LBS. I would
> have had a Marin as slightly better spec. The quad linkage put me off.
> Marin used to have a single pivot until John Whyte designed them. I ain't
> convinced they're suited to UK riding conditions.


Interesting. There are a lot of people running Marin's in the UK and get
on with them well.
 
"gravelrAsh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "bomba" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p[email protected]...
> > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:51:53 +0000, gravelrAsh wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Anybody riding an Orange 5 Pro out there? Thinking of buying one,

> wondering
> > > about any issues. I'll hang fire for the 2005 model. I want to keep

> the
> > > suspension linkage simple as most riding will be done in the boggy,

> gritty
> > > Peak District (UK).

> >
> > Don't be soft, go for the P7 :)
> >
> > The 5 has a good rep, although it's a single pivot and comes with the
> > obvious pros / cons of such a design. If I was thinking of FS, it's
> > something I'd definitely look at. In the same price range, you may want

to
> > look at the Marin Mount Vision, or some of the Special'Ed offerings.
> >

>
> I looked at the Marin at the same time as the Orange at my LBS. I would
> have had a Marin as slightly better spec. The quad linkage put me off.
> Marin used to have a single pivot until John Whyte designed them. I ain't
> convinced they're suited to UK riding conditions.


I thought all the Marin full sus bikes were designed by Whyte, the latest
ones with the quad linkage are a refinement in an attempt to introduce a
fully active suspension action whilst avoiding specialised horst-link
patents.
And don't they come with a lifetime guarantee on bearings?
With that said, the Orange is a nice bike too.

Steve.
 
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:20:55 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
<[email protected]>
blathered:

>> > > Anybody riding an Orange 5 Pro out there?


>> > obvious pros / cons of such a design. If I was thinking of FS, it's
>> > something I'd definitely look at. In the same price range, you may want

>to
>> > look at the Marin Mount Vision


I'm currently testing a Marin Wolf Ridge (Tracksterman spotted on FS
bike shocker!), and it's been a bit of a revelation. I may have to
doff my sceptic's hat. Unfortunately, I have to give it back soon.


Pete Jones
 
"spademan o---[) *"
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> "gravelrAsh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "bomba" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:p[email protected]...
> > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:51:53 +0000, gravelrAsh wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Anybody riding an Orange 5 Pro out there? Thinking of buying one,

> > wondering
> > > > about any issues. I'll hang fire for the 2005 model. I want to

keep
> > the
> > > > suspension linkage simple as most riding will be done in the boggy,

> > gritty
> > > > Peak District (UK).
> > >
> > > Don't be soft, go for the P7 :)
> > >
> > > The 5 has a good rep, although it's a single pivot and comes with the
> > > obvious pros / cons of such a design. If I was thinking of FS, it's
> > > something I'd definitely look at. In the same price range, you may

want
> to
> > > look at the Marin Mount Vision, or some of the Special'Ed offerings.
> > >

> >
> > I looked at the Marin at the same time as the Orange at my LBS. I would
> > have had a Marin as slightly better spec. The quad linkage put me off.
> > Marin used to have a single pivot until John Whyte designed them. I

ain't
> > convinced they're suited to UK riding conditions.

>
> I thought all the Marin full sus bikes were designed by Whyte, the latest
> ones with the quad linkage are a refinement in an attempt to introduce a
> fully active suspension action whilst avoiding specialised horst-link
> patents.
> And don't they come with a lifetime guarantee on bearings?
> With that said, the Orange is a nice bike too.
>
> Steve.
>
>
>

Steve, you're probably right about Whyte designing all the full sus bikes.
A mate has an early Marin which is single pivot, he loves it, along with its
simplicity.

Yes the bearings do have lifetime warranty. A get out clause for the
manufacturer could be "they have come to the end of their life so need
replacing". They never say they'll replace the bearings free of charge for
the time you own the bike.

On the plus side with the Orange made in Halifax, it's only an hour from
where I live. Any problems with it and I'll drive up and dump it at their
reception until I get satisfaction. :)

Ash
 
"gravelrAsh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "spademan o---[) *"
> <[email protected]> wrote in
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> > "gravelrAsh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "bomba" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:51:53 +0000, gravelrAsh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > Anybody riding an Orange 5 Pro out there? Thinking of buying one,
> > > wondering
> > > > > about any issues. I'll hang fire for the 2005 model. I want to

> keep
> > > the
> > > > > suspension linkage simple as most riding will be done in the

boggy,
> > > gritty
> > > > > Peak District (UK).
> > > >
> > > > Don't be soft, go for the P7 :)
> > > >
> > > > The 5 has a good rep, although it's a single pivot and comes with

the
> > > > obvious pros / cons of such a design. If I was thinking of FS, it's
> > > > something I'd definitely look at. In the same price range, you may

> want
> > to
> > > > look at the Marin Mount Vision, or some of the Special'Ed offerings.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I looked at the Marin at the same time as the Orange at my LBS. I

would
> > > have had a Marin as slightly better spec. The quad linkage put me

off.
> > > Marin used to have a single pivot until John Whyte designed them. I

> ain't
> > > convinced they're suited to UK riding conditions.

> >
> > I thought all the Marin full sus bikes were designed by Whyte, the

latest
> > ones with the quad linkage are a refinement in an attempt to introduce a
> > fully active suspension action whilst avoiding specialised horst-link
> > patents.
> > And don't they come with a lifetime guarantee on bearings?
> > With that said, the Orange is a nice bike too.
> >
> > Steve.
> >
> >
> >

> Steve, you're probably right about Whyte designing all the full sus bikes.
> A mate has an early Marin which is single pivot, he loves it, along with

its
> simplicity.
>
> Yes the bearings do have lifetime warranty. A get out clause for the
> manufacturer could be "they have come to the end of their life so need
> replacing". They never say they'll replace the bearings free of charge

for
> the time you own the bike.
>
> On the plus side with the Orange made in Halifax, it's only an hour from
> where I live. Any problems with it and I'll drive up and dump it at their
> reception until I get satisfaction. :)
>
> Ash
>
>
>


Well i traded my old marin single pivot Wildcat Trail in for a Quad link
Attack Trail at the start of this year and i find it a much better ride,
faster,
smoother although i do find the single crown Fox TALAS forks to be a bit
flexy compared to the DC Jnr T's on the old bike.

And no problems so far with the quad link.

Nick
 
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:12:26 +0100, "Nick"
<[email protected]> blathered:

>although i do find the single crown Fox TALAS forks to be a bit
>flexy compared to the DC Jnr T's on the old bike.


Ah, so it's not just me then - the Talas forks on my current test bike
have much more lateral twist then the Maguras on my own bike. I lent
it to a mate last night, said nothing, and he made the same comment at
the end of the ride.

Pete Jones