OT: a smug moment

[Helen C Simmons]

"David Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It is in the mind. You have to accept hunger as a way of life and learn to
> embrace it as a friend.
>
> If you are consuming less than you are burning then you will feel hungry.
> You will also lose weight. When I was seriously losing weight this was
> about a kilo a week and I felt hungry.
>

Actually I rarely feel hungry, and I have to force myself to eat the
quantity I'm allocated each day. I eat *huge* amounts of non-startchy
vegetables - and I have one heck of an appetite.

Cheers, helen s

 

[Brian G]

Helen C Simmons wrote:
> Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In the
> last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping it off
>

Wonderful. I know the feeling, having lost over three stones myself
last year. Keeping it off is by far the greater challenge IME, but one
little thing I've found to be a good motivator is to keep handy a photo
of oneself in previous lardbucket mode. The desire not to return to
that shameful shape is powerful medicine.

Good luck,

--
Brian G

 

[David Martin]

Helen C Simmons wrote:
> "David Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>It is in the mind. You have to accept hunger as a way of life and learn to
>>embrace it as a friend.
>>
>>If you are consuming less than you are burning then you will feel hungry.
>>You will also lose weight. When I was seriously losing weight this was
>>about a kilo a week and I felt hungry.
>>
>
>
> Actually I rarely feel hungry, and I have to force myself to eat the
> quantity I'm allocated each day. I eat *huge* amounts of non-startchy
> vegetables - and I have one heck of an appetite.

I find this a lot easier in the summer when the allotment is producing
like crazy. Otherwise it is too easy to pick up the starchy, fatty stuff.

...d

 

[elyob]

"Helen C Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In
> the last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping
> it off

Wow, that's a lot. But what's that in percentage terms?

At the moment i'm around 16 stone, and have been to a gym 3 times a week
since 17 Jan. Lost nothing, but am building muscle. However, I don't feel
I'm totally overweight when I'm fit ... I'm 6ft'1 so 13 stone would probably
be underweight for me. That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it!

 

[LSMike]

David Martin wrote:
> LSMike wrote:
> > So how are you managing to slough it off like that, it's amazing!
I'm
> > struggling with the winter excesses at the moment, I just can't
seem to
> > satisfy my hunger except by eating loads of fatty fried foods. Or
> > chocolate.
>
> It is in the mind. You have to accept hunger as a way of life and
learn
> to embrace it as a friend.
>
> If you are consuming less than you are burning then you will feel
> hungry. You will also lose weight. When I was seriously losing weight

> this was about a kilo a week and I felt hungry.
>
> Your hunger is trainable. It takes me about two weeks to get used to
a
> new eating pattern. The first week gets hard, the second is harder as

> you fight the hunger pangs (ie returning to eating a sensible amount,

> not grabbing that extra bite between meals etc.) The third week is
then
> surprisngly easy.

Well, yes, but it's particularly hard since I've never had to watch my
weight or limit my food intake, and I'm _still_ not used to the effects
of an English winter on eating habits.

> A pair of scales is very useful as it reinforces the discipline. It
also
> shows you just how much you lose when out on the bike. A three hour
ride
> at a moderate pace during which I would drink a litre and a half and
eat
> various bits would still see me 1-2 kilos lighter, most of which
would
> be back on by the evening.

LOL, yes, it sounds like you need to watch your hydration more
carefully during the ride.

> I'm just waiting for some new scales (on order) and tryng to behave.
> Hard without the incentive of a fixed scale against which to measure
> oneself.
>
> ..d

Mike.

 

[Helen C Simmons]

"elyob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Helen C Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In
>> the last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping
>> it off
>
> Wow, that's a lot. But what's that in percentage terms?
>

Not enough ;-)

I still have a long way to go. Onwards & downwards.

Cheers, helen s

 

[Peter Clinch]

Helen C Simmons wrote:
> Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In the
> last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping it off
>

That's seriously good work!

I'm having a minor "period of adjustment" at the moment, to account for
Christmas etc. bloat. Had snuck up a couple of Kg, and have now snuck
back 1.5, and intend to keep going for a wee while to get under 75 after
which I will /not/ go past it again!

Pete.
--
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

 

[Helen C Simmons]

"Peter Clinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> That's seriously good work!
>
Thanks

> I'm having a minor "period of adjustment" at the moment, to account for
> Christmas etc. bloat. Had snuck up a couple of Kg, and have now snuck
> back 1.5, and intend to keep going for a wee while to get under 75 after
> which I will /not/ go past it again!
>
> Pete.
>

Oh to be 75kg... that'll be my left thigh currently ;-)

Cheers, helen s

 

[David Martin]

On 11/2/05 9:07 am, in article [email protected], "Peter
Clinch" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Helen C Simmons wrote:
>> Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In the
>> last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping it off
>>
>
> That's seriously good work!
>
> I'm having a minor "period of adjustment" at the moment, to account for
> Christmas etc. bloat. Had snuck up a couple of Kg, and have now snuck
> back 1.5, and intend to keep going for a wee while to get under 75 after
> which I will /not/ go past it again!

Bah! I last saw 75kg when I was an undergrad and riding 200 miles a week. My
scales broke around christmas so I am unfortunately working on the inches of
belt method. Still 2 up from the best. New scales are on order though so I
can get more motivated.

...d

 

[Julesh]

elyob wrote:
> "Helen C Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In
>>the last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping
>>it off
>
>
> Wow, that's a lot. But what's that in percentage terms?
>
> At the moment i'm around 16 stone, and have been to a gym 3 times a week
> since 17 Jan. Lost nothing, but am building muscle. However, I don't feel
> I'm totally overweight when I'm fit ... I'm 6ft'1 so 13 stone would probably
> be underweight for me. That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it!
>
>
>
Quite right - It sound like I'm pretty much the same build as you. I was
17 stone and flabby before I restarted cycling last year. I now ride
about 100-120 miles a week in pointless commuting [1] and are down to
about 16 stone. I'm now trying to eat more fresh food and less **** and
expect the remainder of the belly and the spare chins will fall off in
time.

julesh

[1] I work from home

 

[dkahn400]

David Martin wrote:

> Bah! I last saw 75kg when I was an undergrad and riding 200 miles a
> week. My scales broke around christmas so I am unfortunately working
> on the inches of belt method.

With a final twanging sound and broken springs and bits of dial flying
across the room?

--
Dave...

 

[MSeries]

Julesh wrote:
> elyob wrote:
>
>> "Helen C Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening.
>>> In the last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to
>>> keeping it off
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow, that's a lot. But what's that in percentage terms?
>>
>> At the moment i'm around 16 stone, and have been to a gym 3 times a
>> week since 17 Jan. Lost nothing, but am building muscle. However, I
>> don't feel I'm totally overweight when I'm fit ... I'm 6ft'1 so 13
>> stone would probably be underweight for me. That's my excuse and I'm
>> sticking with it!
>>
>>
>>
> Quite right - It sound like I'm pretty much the same build as you. I was
> 17 stone and flabby before I restarted cycling last year. I now ride
> about 100-120 miles a week in pointless commuting [1] and are down to
> about 16 stone. I'm now trying to eat more fresh food and less **** and
> expect the remainder of the belly and the spare chins will fall off in
> time.
>
> julesh
>
> [1] I work from home
Unfortunately ones belly is the last thing to go if cycling is the main
form of exercise. I lost 4 stones over a period of about 2 years by
eating healthily, no booze and shed loads of cycling. I have always
cycled alot, but this weight loss was due really to less (no) **** food
and booze. My posture has been such that my belly hangs out but now I am
starting to see changes in that too.


Well done and keep it up.

 

[Arthur Clune]

Helen C Simmons <[email protected]> wrote:
: Allow me to share my smug moment with you. Got weighed this evening. In the
: last 8 weeks I've lost 36.5 lbs.. Onwards & downwards and to keeping it off
:


Well done. I'm impressed.


--
Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness

 

[David Martin]

On 11/2/05 10:15 am, in article
[email protected], "dkahn400"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> David Martin wrote:
>
>> Bah! I last saw 75kg when I was an undergrad and riding 200 miles a
>> week. My scales broke around christmas so I am unfortunately working
>> on the inches of belt method.
>
> With a final twanging sound and broken springs and bits of dial flying
> across the room?

No. With a pool of water on the bathroom floor..

Nothing quite so destructive as a three year old..

...d

 

[dkahn400]

Julesh wrote:

> Quite right - It sound like I'm pretty much the same build as you.
> I was 17 stone and flabby before I restarted cycling last year. I now
> ride about 100-120 miles a week in pointless commuting [1] and are
> down to about 16 stone. I'm now trying to eat more fresh food and
less
> **** and expect the remainder of the belly and the spare chins will
> fall off in time.

With sensible eating and that sort of mileage the excess should just
continue to melt slowly away. While I'm pleased for Helen with her
weight loss, and impressed by her willpower, I can't help but worry
whether it's sustainable. It shouldn't really be necessary IMO to weigh
your food. Having said that, WeightWatchers is better than many
programmes in that it does have a maintenance regime to follow once
you've reached your goal weight. If Helen can keep that up indefinitely
she might be able to avoid the usual post diet rebound.

--
Dave...

 

[Helen C Simmons]

"dkahn400" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Julesh wrote:
>
>> Quite right - It sound like I'm pretty much the same build as you.
>> I was 17 stone and flabby before I restarted cycling last year. I now
>> ride about 100-120 miles a week in pointless commuting [1] and are
>> down to about 16 stone. I'm now trying to eat more fresh food and
> less
>> **** and expect the remainder of the belly and the spare chins will
>> fall off in time.
>
> With sensible eating and that sort of mileage the excess should just
> continue to melt slowly away. While I'm pleased for Helen with her
> weight loss, and impressed by her willpower, I can't help but worry
> whether it's sustainable. It shouldn't really be necessary IMO to weigh
> your food.

Alas, when you are severely overweight - as I was - part of losing weight is
retrining brain & stomach on portion control & what is *healthy* amounts of
the various food groups. For me, and for a lot of others, it means weighing
food before eating it. That is the effective guarantee that you are
correctly controlling what goes in the mouth. I do not expect to sustain the
rate of loss I've experienced in the last 8 weeks - it would unrealistic and
unhealthy to expect such. I fully expect and accept the rate will slow and
possibly stop for a while until the average weekly weight loss long term is
a couple of pounds a week. When you've got a lot of flab to lose, you tend
to lose a lot quickly and then it slows.

>Having said that, WeightWatchers is better than many
> programmes in that it does have a maintenance regime to follow once
> you've reached your goal weight. If Helen can keep that up indefinitely
> she might be able to avoid the usual post diet rebound.

Many years ago I did WW and kept weight off for three years. It was a
combination of illness & inactivity that allowed me to start piling on the
pounds again. By the way, I'm not on a diet - I'm on a healthy-eating plan.
"Diet" suggests a stop - I have to take a long-term view

Cheers, helen s

>
> --
> Dave...
>

 

[Mark Thompson]

> Unfortunately ones belly is the last thing to go if cycling is the
> main form of exercise.

I always understood that this was the last thing to go (in men) full stop?

 

[MSeries]

Mark Thompson wrote:
>>Unfortunately ones belly is the last thing to go if cycling is the
>>main form of exercise.
>
>
> I always understood that this was the last thing to go (in men) full stop?


I wouldn't know, cycling is the only exercise I have ever done for the
sake of it. I read an article about Max Sciandri which looked and
discussed his body before and after the Tour de France (when he rode
it), it said the same there. Despite him looking thinner he still had a
belly.

 

[pk]

David Martin wrote:
>
> It is in the mind. You have to accept hunger as a way of life and
> learn to embrace it as a friend.
>
> If you are consuming less than you are burning then you will feel
> hungry. You will also lose weight. When I was seriously losing weight
> this was about a kilo a week and I felt hungry.


Wrong!

I'm following the GI diet at the moment - eating 6 times a day (3 meals & 3
snacks), never feeling hungry and losing 1lb per week despite not being able
to take much exercise for a variety of reasons. When i can exercise more
i'll up the calorie intake but still lose weight and not feel hungry.

pk

 

[Helen C Simmons]

"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Well done. I'm impressed.
>

Thanks Arthur - but I've still a long, long way to go.

Cheers, helen s