On Mar 10, 5:26 pm, "Jay" <
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> > Actually, I didn't give a f.. about any of the candidates and wasn't
> > going to vote for anyone. I think that they are all crooks and are
> > owned by the big pharma, and all the other corporations. The amount of
> > money they are raising in their campaigns is unreal.
>
> > However, now that I know that Obama is a radical muslim, affiliated to
> > terrorists, I will certainly vote for him. Thanks for the inside
> > scoop. That would be my only motivation to get out and vote.
>
> OK...I will type this...very...slowly...so...perhaps...you can keep up.
>
> I never said or intimated that BHO is a 'radical muslim'. I did say that
> BHO's family religion is Islam, which is a documented fact. He personally is
> apparently Christian, but the trouble with BHO is, one does not really know
> what he stands for. All his 'present' votes in the senate, to my mind, mean
> he is afraid to take a stand on sensitive issues. That might be politically
> smart, but that is NOT how our elected reps should act, IMO. I agree
> politicians (on both sides of the aisle) are mostly slimy weasels, looking
> out for their own personal self interest, not for the good of their
> constituents. And they are all in bed with the lobbyists.
>
> So you see, every sentence gets ever more depressing. That is why I try to
> completely avoid political discussions. Recently, I know I have failed
> *miserably*, as LO will attest. I hope he is not too PO'ed at me. I clearly
> need all the RBT expert bike help I can get. LO might not be Sheldon-esque,
> but his response time can't be beat.
>
> J
Jay:
I wanna thank you for going slow. You know, not everyone is as
sophisticated, witty and astute as you are and some things may escape
me since I am kind of slow myself. While I am not quite as bright as
you, I think that I was trying to make a point that may have escaped
you. Of course, this is more likely due to me rather than due to any
limitations on your part. So, to pay you inkind, I will also try to go
slow with my unsophisticated response.
You see, these dialogs do not occur in a contextual void, but there
is something that is called context that permeates into every
conversation. So, within the context of the mainstream, there is some
unsophistication, such as mine, that tends to blend things together.
Most Americans don't know what a Muslim is, or what they stand for. To
many, Muslim is anti Christian, terrorist, radical and violent. Of
course, as Tom pointed out, most Muslims are peaceful and only a tiny
minority engages in acts of violence. However, the media has
manipulated the American mindset to create the image of terrorist tied
to references to Arab, Muslim, middle eastern, etc. Names like Ossama
and Hussein quickly and unfairly cause fear and discrimination, even
thought there are thousands of peaceful Ossamas and Husseins in the
world.
Of course, some have used this to try to associate Obama to terrorism.
Knowing that reference to Islam brings fear into millions of ignorant
Americans many have made the association between Obama and Islam with,
just that intention. Americans of course don't know differences in the
middle east and central Asia and think that it is all the same
cauldron of terrorists. That is why it was easy to blame Iraq for the
actions of a few radical Saudis. Never mind that Saddam was the
furthest from extreme Islam or the beliefs of radical Wahabbies.
So, when you associate Obama to Islam and Ossama, Hussein, etc, what
you are doing is praying on the ignorance and fear of must Americans
to not distinguish between Islam and radical Islam. Of course, you
knew this and that is why you started the thread. Either that, or you
are truly a lot slower than most here.
