On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:03:25 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.
com> wrote:
>I don't suppose you two have read anything except an article in Mother
>Jones.
>
>http://www.gpoaccess.gov/wmd/pdf/chapter1_fm.pdf
Just another CYA government committee trying to justify government
stupidity. It's incestuous. The intelligence agencies cited were all
under Presidential directive to find something bad about Iraq.
Released internal memos and testimony show that there was an
Administration directed effort to ignore any raw intelligence that
contradicted the Administrations goals with those intelligence
agencies.
Two UN Committees said there were no WMDs, Wilson found no evidence of
WMD's... and each time the Administration sought to discredit whoever
was heading the effort that was concluding there were no WMD's. Odd,
ain't it?
As you may recall, the latest report from the last UN Commission had
just come in before the invasion - again reporting no WMD's. Chile put
a proposal on the table to spend 30 more days looking for WMDs. Bush
refused to wait. Why? Because he was afraid that they still would not
find any WMD's and his reasons for invading were vanishing fast.
>According to the moron committee here we were supposed to hope and prey that
>Saddam Hussein was just kidding when he threatened others.
How did he threaten the USA and qualify under the Constitution as a
legitimate National *Defense* concern? last I checked, the
Constitution only allows the President to engage in National Defense.
>According to the moron committee here we wouldn't have to respond if such
>weapons were threatened to be used on Israel.
>According to the moron committee here a nuclear war that resulted from such
>a use against Israel wouldn't be our business.
Too hypothetical.
>I have to say that the ignorance demonstrated by the leftists is so far out
>that I can only hope Obama gets elected. The results of that will be America
>falling to second world status in one election cycle.
I'm not sure that you're very clear on who's who in politics. The
"leftists" generally support a strong defense of Israel. The (real)
Conservatives and the Leftists agree, for differing reasons, that
invading Iraq (or any country that is not a direct threat) is wrong.
Only the neo-cons, who believe it's OK to spend $1 trillion on an
invasion of the sovereign nation in violation of our own Constitution
seem to think it's right (But then, they have their hand in the
profits and they have the marketing/sales to make dolts like you
believe it's in our nation's interest.
As for the country falling to second class status: we already have a
dollar free falling against other currencies; we have record deficits
that are bankrupting the country; foreign investors own more of us and
our companies than we do; we get no respect anywhere in the world due
to Bush's foreign policy post 2002; real jobs, white and blue collar,
are disappearing like bon-bons on Rosie Odonell's coffee table; and we
no longer lead the world in any industry, except maybe the space-race
- and only in that because of the colossal waste of US government
taxpayer money to support it.
Just how much more has to happen for us to be "second class"?