OT,OT,OT.-BYE.



[email protected] (DeVon) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

[...]

> I sure wish Hashim had bitten his tongue .. or should that be fingers .... as I have frequently in
> the past few months, so as not to extend an unproductive discussion.
>
> Hoping that Mr. Dolan will be as good as his word: "However, I have decided to cut back in my
> posting to this newsgroup and so I will let some things slide by from now on in the interest of
> group harmony."

Right you are DeVon! But does it really matter all that much how much garbage is posted to a thread
clearly labeled OT? If you are only interested in reading relevant recumbent topics, then just never
open anything under a thread labeled OT. But I am really going to bite my tongue too when it comes
to posting to a thread that is on topic on recumbents. The only thing that will set me off like a
maniac is if
Mr. Sherman horns in on such a thread with his usual political inanities. Everyone else gets a free
pass from me from now on. But let us have our OT fun and games on threads clearly so labeled.
What is the harm of that? The fact is there is a considerable number of us here on this
newsgroup who clearly enjoy that.

> I have enjoyed reading the many ON-topic posts over the past several years (including a few from
> Mr. Dolan). This group has been VERY helpful to me in selecting, modifying, and "accessorizing" my
> bikes. I've also gotten some excellent recommendations on recumbent-friendly tours and day-rides.
>
> For years I have recommended arbr to those who want information about taking up recumbent riding.
> I have discontinued those referrals, but am encouraged that Mr. Dolan is offering to do his part
> in allowing arbr to become arbr once again. As much as I disagree with his political views, I have
> to agree he is not entirely to blame. To others (and Tom, I enjoy your posts ESPECIALLY since you
> have cut back on those DAMNED footnotes ;): please let the OT posts die so that we can look
> forward to helpful, meaningful and consistently RELEVANT threads.
>
> I really find the idea repugnant that a group needs to be censored, especially when those doing
> the censoring, of course, have their own biases about what should and should not be presented.
> Ever the optimist I guess, I hope we can restore arbr to what it once was: Valuable
> recumbent-related input from a diverse demographic (both culturally and "recumbent-ly" diverse).
>
> Come back Ed Wong, Chris Jordan, Josh Goldberg, et al. We NEED you!!

Some of these people have been here way too long and it is not a bad idea if they want to leave. I
think we all wear out our welcome rather quickly and I would suggest that about two years on any
newsgroup is long enough for anyone. There is a considerable amount of mindless chit chat on ARBR
between some of the regular posters and I submit that is much more annoying than any political rants
from us OT'ers.

> Now that I've done my part to extend an OT(?) thread ..... I promise to go back to my
> tongue-biting.

Everything you said was intelligent and to the point. We need more posters like you and less like
Mr. Sherman. This OT thread is really about housekeeping on ARBR and as you can so clearly see there
is a variety of opinions even about that. The exchange of information on the technical aspects of
recumbent cycling is what this newsgroup is mainly about, but that gets mighty tiresome after awhile
and I think a bit of OT posting on those threads clearly so labeled is an added attraction to ARBR
and should be enjoyed as such rather than excoriated.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
[email protected] (Edward Dolan) wrote in news:[email protected]:

<snip> Actually what he wrote in this case is irrelevent. Continuous OT posting is rude.
Name-calling is very rude. Please behave.

Coincidentally, I found a HELPFUL LINK:

http://www.prairiewave.com/Forms/aup.htm

This is the acceptable use policy for prairiewave.com (parent of iw.net if you catch my meaning).

Paragraph 1.a expressly forbids using their services for the transmission or reception of
material which is:

" threatening, abusive, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, profane,"

I found Ed's use of "sorry a-hole" (the "I've Had it!" thread) and later

may find other postings in other threads libelous or defamatory. FWIW, the email address to report
internet abuse at said ISP is available at the above url.

Keep it about recumbents Ed, and failing that, at least keep it civil.

(OB Bent content) Bought some clipless pedals this weekend. I've been thinking about doing this
since '86 or '87. Hmm, maybe I oughta get some shoes sometime!
 
footnote this <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> [email protected] (Edward Dolan) wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> <snip> Actually what he wrote in this case is irrelevent. Continuous OT posting is rude.
> Name-calling is very rude. Please behave.
>
> Coincidentally, I found a HELPFUL LINK:
>
> http://www.prairiewave.com/Forms/aup.htm
>
> This is the acceptable use policy for prairiewave.com (parent of iw.net if you catch my meaning).
>
> Paragraph 1.a expressly forbids using their services for the transmission or reception of material
> which is:
>
> " threatening, abusive, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, profane,"
>
> I found Ed's use of "sorry a-hole" (the "I've Had it!" thread) and later

> may find other postings in other threads libelous or defamatory. FWIW, the email address to report
> internet abuse at said ISP is available at the above url.
>
> Keep it about recumbents Ed, and failing that, at least keep it civil.

Sorry footnote. I always respond in the exact same spirit with which something is posted, either to
me or to others. If you want polite posts, then give polite posts.

As to your concerns about how I might be abusing the protocols of the Internet I suggest you look
around and get some reality pounded into

that kind of language on me first.

I also suggest you give up on trying to be the nanny of this newsgroup. There are others who are
already applying for that particular job more qualified than you. Liberals are good at being
nannies, that is to everyone else other than themselves of course. They always exempt themselves,
just like Teddy Kennedy exempted himself from normal human behavior at Chappaquiddick. And yet the
liberal morons of Mass. elect him and over and over again to the U.S. Senate. If you want to get
concerned about some reprehensible human behavior, I suggest you focus on that.

And finally, I have not used any language on ARBR that I do not see and hear every night on the TV
and radio. Our culture has coarsened considerably since the days of my youth and the coarseness is
everywhere now. I expect even preachers are using the same language as the rest of us by now. If you
would like to come into the 21st century I would suggest you sit down at your TV and watch any prime
time entertainment show, especially anything that is on HBO. Even someone as blind as you will have
your eyes opened.

But none of this is about politeness anyway. For the first time ever, you have encountered a
conservative who can throw back liberal **** in your face. You are not used to that and so you look
for a way around
it. Like I have said many times previously, liberals can dish it out but they can't take it.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota
 
footnote this <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> [email protected] (Edward Dolan) wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> <snip> Actually what he wrote in this case is irrelevent. Continuous OT posting is rude.
> Name-calling is very rude. Please behave.
[...]

One can be very rude without name calling. You have done it to excess in this post of yours. The
average person would not be able to detect your rudeness, but I am a genius at detecting rudeness
and I do know how to reciprocate. That is the only problem you are having with me if truth be told.

Continuous OT Posting is not rude at all if it done on a thread so labeled. Maybe you should confer
with Mr. Sherman about this. He is one of your own - a liberal - and not be bothering me about this.
As far as I am concerned, this "problem" was discussed and solved long ago.

Name calling is par for the course when everyone else is doing it. But you have selective hearing
like all liberals and the name calling that liberals do is music to your ears.

You are the one that needs to behave yourself and not be making a jackass out of yourself.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

PS. Irrelevent is spelled irrelevant. Since you are such a nit picker I thought you would appreciate
someone else doing a bit of nit picking.