OT: The reason the Nigerians keep going

Discussion in 'UK and Europe' started by Tony Raven, Feb 7, 2004.

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  1. Tony Raven

    Tony Raven Guest

    I often wonder who falls for the Nigerian money scams but you can fool some of
    the people all of the time and those are the ones they're after:

    Tony

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/africa/02/05/nigeria.419.trial.ap/index.html

    Five Nigerians charged in $242 million '419' fraud trial Friday, February 6, 2004 Posted: 4:54 PM
    EST (2154 GMT)

    ABUJA, Nigeria (AP) -- Nigerian prosecutors leveled 86 counts of fraud and conspiracy against five
    people Thursday for allegedly swindling a Brazilian bank of $242 million, in the biggest crackdown
    yet on the West African nation's advance-fee fraud or "419" scams. The five are accused of luring an
    employee of Sao Paulo's Banco Noroeste into siphoning off the funds from his employer, persuading
    him he could land a share in a lucrative Nigerian construction contract if he just paid enough
    handling fees up front. The five appeared in court in Nigeria's capital, Abuja, in handcuffs to hear
    the charges Thursday. All the suspects, including housewife Amaka Anajemba, lawyer Obum Osakwe, and
    businessman Emmanuel Nwude -- described by prosecutors as "a major shareholder" in a leading
    Nigerian bank -- pleaded innocent. Penalties for each of the counts range between seven and 10
    years. Four Nigerian companies -- Ocean Marketing, Fynbaz, Emrus, and the African Shelter Bureau --
    also accused of involvement in the alleged crime were not represented in court. Presiding Judge
    Lawal Gumi entered innocent pleas on behalf of the companies and postponed proceedings until
    Wednesday, when he will consider requests for bond. There was mild drama in court when suspect
    Nzeribe Okoli, while making his plea, declared he would make "shocking revelations" during the
    trial. "There are so many hidden things which Nigerians should know," Okoli said before he was
    interrupted by the judge, who told him to restrict his answers to the questions he was asked.
    Nigeria's anti-fraud body, the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, alleges in court papers the
    suspects told the Brazilian bank worker he would receive $13.4 million from an $187 million Nigerian
    airport contract -- if he invested money up front. The bank worker allegedly dug illegally into his
    bank's funds, transferring the $242 million -- in segments as high as $4.75 million at a time -- to
    accounts around the world designated by the suspects, the papers showed. Nigeria has gained global
    notoriety as a base for such advance-fee fraud, known as '419' schemes after the section of the
    country's criminal code that prohibits fraud. In most of the cases, scam artists proposition victims
    with e-mails claiming to have millions of dollars from inflated contracts, the estates of dead
    dictators, or other illicit proceeds, and seeking help to transfer the money abroad. The victims are
    then made to pay never-ending "service fees" and other charges -- the object of the scams. Nuhu
    Ribadu, who heads the commission set up by President Olusegun Obasanjo's government in December 2002
    to combat sophisticated fraud and money-laundering rings, told a news conference on Wednesday he
    intended to use this case to prove that "no one is above the law." The case was also the subject of
    criminal investigations in Switzerland, Britain, the United States and Brazil, Ribadu said.
     
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  2. Graham

    Graham Guest

    "Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I often wonder who falls for the Nigerian money scams but you can fool
    some of
    > the people all of the time and those are the ones they're after:
    >
    > Tony
    >
    > http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/africa/02/05/nigeria.419.trial.ap/index.html
    >
    > Five Nigerians charged in $242 million '419' fraud trial Friday, February 6, 2004 Posted: 4:54 PM
    > EST (2154 GMT)
    >
    > ABUJA, Nigeria (AP) -- Nigerian prosecutors leveled 86 counts of fraud and conspiracy against five
    > people Thursday for allegedly swindling a
    Brazilian
    > bank of $242 million, in the biggest crackdown yet on the West African nation's advance-fee fraud
    > or "419" scams. The five are accused of luring an employee of Sao Paulo's Banco Noroeste
    into
    > siphoning off the funds from his employer, persuading him he could land a share in a lucrative
    > Nigerian construction contract if he just paid enough handling fees up front. The five appeared in
    > court in Nigeria's capital, Abuja, in handcuffs to
    hear
    > the charges Thursday. All the suspects, including housewife Amaka
    Anajemba,
    > lawyer Obum Osakwe, and businessman Emmanuel Nwude -- described by
    prosecutors
    > as "a major shareholder" in a leading Nigerian bank -- pleaded innocent. Penalties for each of the
    > counts range between seven and 10 years. Four Nigerian companies -- Ocean Marketing, Fynbaz,
    > Emrus, and the African Shelter Bureau -- also accused of involvement in the alleged crime were
    not
    > represented in court. Presiding Judge Lawal Gumi entered innocent pleas on behalf of the
    companies
    > and postponed proceedings until Wednesday, when he will consider requests
    for
    > bond. There was mild drama in court when suspect Nzeribe Okoli, while making his plea, declared he
    > would make "shocking revelations" during the trial. "There are so many hidden things which
    > Nigerians should know," Okoli said before he was interrupted by the judge, who told him to
    > restrict his
    answers
    > to the questions he was asked. Nigeria's anti-fraud body, the Economic and Financial Crimes
    > Commission, alleges in court papers the suspects told the Brazilian bank worker he
    would
    > receive $13.4 million from an $187 million Nigerian airport contract -- if
    he
    > invested money up front. The bank worker allegedly dug illegally into his bank's funds,
    transferring
    > the $242 million -- in segments as high as $4.75 million at a time -- to accounts around the world
    > designated by the suspects, the papers showed. Nigeria has gained global notoriety as a base for
    > such advance-fee fraud, known as '419' schemes after the section of the country's criminal code
    that
    > prohibits fraud. In most of the cases, scam artists proposition victims with e-mails
    claiming
    > to have millions of dollars from inflated contracts, the estates of dead dictators, or other
    > illicit proceeds, and seeking help to transfer the
    money
    > abroad. The victims are then made to pay never-ending "service fees" and other charges -- the
    > object of the scams. Nuhu Ribadu, who heads the commission set up by President Olusegun
    Obasanjo's
    > government in December 2002 to combat sophisticated fraud and
    money-laundering
    > rings, told a news conference on Wednesday he intended to use this case to prove that "no one is
    > above the law." The case was also the subject of criminal investigations in Switzerland, Britain,
    > the United States and Brazil, Ribadu said.
    >
    >
    Yet another good reason for not letting them in this country. Though we have too many as it is !

    Graham
     
  3. Nobody760

    Nobody760 Guest

    Don't be so biased. My friends in Nigeria are going to put £3,000,000 into my bank soon. They are
    not so clever cos I only sent them £3,000 for administration. So you work it out £3,000,000 - £3,000
    = £2,997,000 profit! They are not so clever now are they!
     
  4. Peter B

    Peter B Guest

    "nobody760" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Don't be so biased. My friends in Nigeria are going to put £3,000,000 into my bank soon. They are
    > not so clever cos I only sent them £3,000 for administration. So you work it out £3,000,000 -
    > £3,000 = £2,997,000
    profit!
    > They are not so clever now are they!

    Any chance you'll let me in on it, I've got £3000 kicking around <1>. I had earmarked it for re-
    surfacing my drive but got fed up waiting for the travellers to come round with a bit of black stuff
    that's been left over from a local road repair.
    <1> I saved the money to have double glazing fitted but am waiting for a salesman to call as they
    give a special discount if I invite them in and sign a contract there and then but now know I
    don't need to use my money at all as the window company will kindly arrange finance at 29.9%
    APR if I buy their insurance because I have been specially selected in my neighbourhood. Must
    dash, I have to claim another free prize from a draw I don't recall entering, but hey, it's
    only going to cost a fiver to claim it and I'm keeping quiet about not entering, after all it's
    their mistake!
    --
    Regards, Pete
     
  5. Simonb

    Simonb Guest

    Graham wrote:

    > Yet another good reason for not letting them in this country. Though we have too many as
    > it is !

    Whoever you are, Graham, would you please stop using this newsgroup as a platform for your racist
    views. No-one's interested them.

    Thanks,

    Simon
     
  6. Dave Kahn

    Dave Kahn Guest

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 16:52:55 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Any chance you'll let me in on it, I've got £3000 kicking around <1>. I had earmarked it for re-
    >surfacing my drive but got fed up waiting for the travellers to come round with a bit of black
    >stuff that's been left over from a local road repair.

    I'm afraid I don't have £3,000 kicking around any more since Guy sold me Tower Bridge.

    --
    Dave...

    Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain
     
  7. Dave Kahn

    Dave Kahn Guest

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 17:02:47 -0000, "Simonb"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Whoever you are, Graham, would you please stop using this newsgroup as a platform for your racist
    >views. No-one's interested them.

    Trolls - feed them not.

    --
    Dave...

    Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain
     
  8. On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 16:52:55 +0000 (UTC), in
    <[email protected]>, "Peter B"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"nobody760" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> Don't be so biased. My friends in Nigeria are going to put £3,000,000 into my bank soon. They are
    >> not so clever cos I only sent them £3,000 for administration. So you work it out £3,000,000 -
    >> £3,000 = £2,997,000
    >profit!
    >> They are not so clever now are they!
    >
    >Any chance you'll let me in on it, I've got £3000 kicking around <1>. I had earmarked it for re-
    >surfacing my drive but got fed up waiting for the travellers to come round with a bit of black
    >stuff that's been left over from a local road repair.

    [snip]

    I've got a dynamo powered electric bicycle in my garage if you want to buy it ...
    --
    I remember when the internet was only in black & white. It only had a few pages but at least they
    all worked. Email: Put only the word "richard" before the @ sign.
     
  9. Just Zis Guy

    Just Zis Guy Guest

    On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 20:32:43 +0000, Dave Kahn <[email protected]>
    wrote in message <[email protected]>:

    >I'm afraid I don't have £3,000 kicking around any more since Guy sold me Tower Bridge.

    Damn. I was hoping you would buy the set.

    Guy
    ===
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk
     
  10. James Hodson

    James Hodson Guest

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 17:02:47 -0000, "Simonb"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Whoever you are, Graham, would you please stop using this newsgroup as a platform for your racist
    >views. No-one's interested them.
    >

    Hi Simon

    Just please tell me exactly what is wrong with Graham stating that he would rather not have everyone
    who feels like it possobly illegally entering the UK, especially those who have the intention of
    permantly staying here? As far as I understand it, there are laws governing illegal entrants.

    Simon, please tell me why Graham's views are racialist.

    James
     
  11. Simonb

    Simonb Guest

    James Hodson wrote:
    > Just please tell me exactly what is wrong with Graham stating that he would rather not have
    > everyone who feels like it possobly illegally entering the UK, especially those who have the
    > intention of permantly staying here? As far as I understand it, there are laws governing illegal
    > entrants.
    >

    All Nigerian immigrants are illegal and undesirable? I don't think so.

    Judging by Graham's recent posts, his views are abhorrent, indefensible, and completely irrelevant.
    This thread has nothing to do with immigration; it's a light-hearted take on the idiots who fall for
    the Nigerian scam. And he was trying to swing it round to his agenda.

    He's simply racist.

    Simon
     
  12. Dave Kahn

    Dave Kahn Guest

    On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 21:40:14 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 20:32:43 +0000, Dave Kahn <[email protected]> wrote in message
    ><[email protected]>:
    >
    >>I'm afraid I don't have £3,000 kicking around any more since Guy sold me Tower Bridge.
    >
    >Damn. I was hoping you would buy the set.

    I want to see how I get on with this one first. What do you take me for? A mug?

    --
    Dave...

    Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain
     
  13. Graeme

    Graeme Guest

    James Hodson <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > please tell me why Graham's views are racialist.
    >

    The original post did not mention immigrants, illegal or otherwise. All it mentioned was Nigerians.
    It is obvious from this that Graham meant that there are too many Nigerians (or more likely, black
    Africans in general) in this country. What is difficult in spotting the racist views in that?

    Or perhaps Graham has swallowed the UK press line in that every immigrant is illegal and every
    asylum seeker is "bogus". Maybe he can't read such an article without "illegal" and "bogus"
    automatically coming to mind. Perhaps that's what's wrong with all the small minded, bigoted
    f*ckwits who spout such views or try to support them; they can't separate fact from media
    driven fiction?

    Here's some news for you, a vast section of the population of the UK has "foreign" blood running
    through their veins to some extent, that's part of being a major seafaring nation with strong
    worldwide trade routes from way back.

    Graeme
     
  14. Just Zis Guy

    Just Zis Guy Guest

    "James Hodson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    > Just please tell me exactly what is wrong with Graham stating that he would rather not have
    > everyone who feels like it possobly illegally entering the UK, especially those who have the
    > intention of permantly staying here?

    That wasn't what he said.

    And when did refugees become asylum seekers?

    --
    Guy
    ===

    WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
     
  15. Simon Brooke

    Simon Brooke Guest

    Graeme <[email protected]> writes:

    > Here's some news for you, a vast section of the population of the UK has "foreign" blood running
    > through their veins to some extent, that's part of being a major seafaring nation with strong
    > worldwide trade routes from way back.

    Make that 100%. 8000 years ago, there was nobody here at all. We're all descended from immigrants,
    and almost all of those immigrants were unwelcome at the time they arrived.

    Simon, whose ancesters got here about 1600 years ago.

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    [email protected] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

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  16. Graeme

    Graeme Guest

  17. On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:21:04 +0000, James Hodson
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Hi Simon
    >
    > Just please tell me exactly what is wrong with Graham stating that he would rather not have
    > everyone who feels like it possobly illegally entering the UK, especially those who have the
    > intention of permantly staying here? As far as I understand it, there are laws governing illegal
    > entrants.

    Graham's views were not informed. He said: "Yet another good reason for not letting them in this
    country. Though we have too many as it is !" of Nigerians.

    In another thread, the spammed article signed by Hanadi, he said "Sounds like a Raghead !"

    > Simon, please tell me why Graham's views are racialist.

    I would bet with unfortunate confidence that Graham is racist.

    Colin
    --
     
  18. Ben

    Ben Guest

    "Richard Bates" <[email protected]> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 16:52:55 +0000 (UTC), in <[email protected]>, "Peter B"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Any chance you'll let me in on it, I've got £3000 kicking around <1>. I had earmarked it for re-
    > >surfacing my drive but got fed up waiting for
    the
    > >travellers to come round with a bit of black stuff that's been left over from a local road
    > >repair.
    >
    > [snip]
    >
    > I've got a dynamo powered electric bicycle in my garage if you want to buy it ...

    Have you got one that doesn't keep turning the pedals?

    Ben
     
  19. Martinm

    Martinm Guest

    "Peter B" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "nobody760" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Don't be so biased. My friends in Nigeria are going to put £3,000,000 into my bank soon. They
    > > are not so clever cos I only sent them £3,000 for administration. So you work it out £3,000,000
    > > - £3,000 = £2,997,000
    > profit!
    > > They are not so clever now are they!
    >
    > Any chance you'll let me in on it, I've got £3000 kicking around <1>. I had earmarked it for re-
    > surfacing my drive but got fed up waiting for the travellers to come round with a bit of black
    > stuff that's been left over from a local road repair.
    > <1> I saved the money to have double glazing fitted but am waiting for a salesman to call as they
    > give a special discount if I invite them in and sign a contract there and then but now know I
    > don't need to use my money at all as the window company will kindly arrange finance at 29.9%
    > APR if I buy their insurance because I have been specially selected in my neighbourhood. Must
    > dash, I have to claim another free prize from a draw I don't recall entering, but hey, it's
    > only going to cost a fiver to claim it and I'm keeping quiet about not entering, after all
    > it's their mistake!

    but you have to go to a prize-giving presentation and sit thru a 3 hr speil about paying £10k for a
    web password first.

    I have got telephone preference, brilliant, waster free evenings;-)
     
  20. Ian G Batten

    Ian G Batten Guest

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave Kahn <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I'm afraid I don't have £3,000 kicking around any more since Guy sold me Tower Bridge.

    It's always claimed, isn't it, that when those Americans bought the old London Bridge to install at
    Lake Havasu, they thought they were getting Tower Bridge.

    ian
     
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