OT Totally but might be interesting here. ::POLITICS::

[Bill C]

May be a really bad idea for here.
I was interested to see where folks on another NG I read wound up.
Pretty predictably since it's an author based group, and his writings
helped form our world views, we seemed to be in the same area for the
most part.
My guess is that it's a pretty close grouping here with a handful of
flyers.

http://www.electoralcompass.com/

I don't think they have a good handle on Ron Paul though.

Bill C

 

[Michael Baldwin]

Mike Huckabee

 

[Davey Crockett]

Bill C a écrit profondement:


| http://www.electoralcompass.com/
|
| I don't think they have a good handle on Ron Paul though.

Ron Paul's a bigger ****** than Lance (I never tested Positive)
Armstrong, Johan (I never Charged Up when I worked for Manolo)
Bruyneel and Paddy (Take me back to the Peat Pits) McBoggy all rolled
into one.

Finally getting an interview on NBC by a good half Haggis-Snapper,
Mavis' Better? Half, and the guy that Long Cocked Litterman for the
Tonight job and who spoon fed him leading questions said. "It's all
about 'liberty' " and regurgitated similar Trite ****.

And not a Peep out of him about the rigged voting either despite Alex
Jones putting his heart and soul into getting a recount.

Jeezuz, Joan Baez, another proud half Oatmeal-Savage even if her dad
was a Beaner, and as Left as they come, would have done better for the
cause of Freedom than the Maternity Man

She's much better looking too: http://azurservers.com/rec/freedom.flv

Sheesh, Davey should have done that interview. Instead of PussyFooting
around, Davey would have torn strips a yard wide off Ghouliani; McPain
and the rest of the NWO AIPAC Financed Wankers. Well maybe excluding
the CrossDressing Mr 911 'cause he can't even pay the help with just
two primaries down and it looks like they wrote him off already.

Granted, Dr Who never said he was a Nationalist, but his politics are
in the main pretty close to the Nationalist Agenda

The lads and lasses that ante'd up the fins and sawbucks must be
pretty disillusioned with Paul already. Sh!t, even David Duke won in
New Hampshire with 65 percent of the Vice Presidential vote.

--
Davey Crockett
-
Driving a Stake through the
Heart of the Politically Correct

 

[Donald Munro]

Bill C wrote:
> May be a really bad idea for here.
> I was interested to see where folks on another NG I read wound up.
> Pretty predictably since it's an author based group, and his writings
> helped form our world views, we seemed to be in the same area for the most
> part.
> My guess is that it's a pretty close grouping here with a handful of
> flyers.
>
> http://www.electoralcompass.com/

I prefer a Mickey Mouse/Britney Spears ticket.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Davey Crockett a écrit profondement:

| And not a Peep out of him about the rigged voting either despite Alex
| Jones putting his heart and soul into getting a recount.
|

http://azurservers.com/rec/diebold.jpg

Second thoughts about recounting the votes in the two primaries
present some interesting possibilities however.

If they get the same bunch of Wankers to do the recount as rigged the
original counts, the results will probably be somewhat similar.

And if the count is "verified", the "authenticity" of the eminently
riggable DieBold machines will be established, permitting Rudee
Ghouliani and Hitlery Klinton to win by landslides at the conventions
as their Sycophants deep six votes for the opposition with little
chance of Censure.

--
Davey Crockett
-
Driving a Stake through the
Heart of the Politically Correct

 

[Bill C]

On Jan 13, 4:36 am, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I prefer a Mickey Mouse/Britney Spears ticket.

Me too. None of the Above wins in a landslide. I end up just off
center economic right and conservative.
I think Ron Paul should be off the chart somewhere in reality.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Donald Munro a écrit profondement:

|
| I prefer a Mickey Mouse/Britney Spears ticket.
|

Sounds like a winning combination.

Provided someone makes sure Britney remembers to put her drawers on

http://azurservers.com/rec/britney.jpg

--
Davey Crockett
-
Driving a Stake through the
Heart of the Politically Correct

 

[Donald Munro]

Davey Crockett wrote:
> Provided someone makes sure Britney remembers to put her drawers on
> http://azurservers.com/rec/britney.jpg

If she wants to make it into the Rock and Republic halfway
house she'll have to learn to shave her legs properly.

 

[Tom Kunich]

"Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:af4dc7c1-7a00-4419-b7c6-36025da92451@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> May be a really bad idea for here.
> I was interested to see where folks on another NG I read wound up.
> Pretty predictably since it's an author based group, and his writings
> helped form our world views, we seemed to be in the same area for the
> most part.
> My guess is that it's a pretty close grouping here with a handful of
> flyers.
>
> http://www.electoralcompass.com/
>
> I don't think they have a good handle on Ron Paul though.

Here's the funny part - it claims that I'm closest in my outlook to Mitt
Romney and John McCain both of whom I agree with about 75% of the time. Then
when I look at Fred Thompson it shows that I agree with him 83% of the
issues.

Hmmmmm. And here's the real kicker - I was a John Kennedy Liberal and my
views haven't changed. Strangely enough, Liberalism has become little more
than socialism bordering on Communism.

Think of it this way - California intends to put radio controlled utility
meters on ALL houses and then turn your gas and electricity off if they
think you're using too much. That is pure unadulterated Communism and a
large percentage of Californians AGREE with that.

 

[Tom Kunich]

"Davey Crockett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> And if the count is "verified", the "authenticity" of the eminently
> riggable DieBold machines will be established, permitting Rudee
> Ghouliani and Hitlery Klinton to win by landslides at the conventions
> as their Sycophants deep six votes for the opposition with little
> chance of Censure.

I hate to point this out, but John Kennedy won the election for President
because he won Chicago and hence Illinois. The point was that in many of the
voting areas he won with more Democratic votes than there were total
registered voters.

Pretending that somehow Diebold would throw an election demonstrates just
the sort of thinking that allowed the Democrat machine to stuff ballet boxes
unopposed.

 

[Tom Kunich]

"Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3ab550a6-8420-4e10-aebd-68bd61043f50@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> I think Ron Paul should be off the chart somewhere in reality.

When you listen to Ron Paul speak in person instead of through his
"interpreters" he demonstrates that there's something scary crazy about him.

 

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <[email protected]>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> Hmmmmm. And here's the real kicker - I was a John Kennedy Liberal and my
> views haven't changed. Strangely enough, Liberalism has become little more
> than socialism bordering on Communism.
>
> Think of it this way - California intends to put radio controlled utility
> meters on ALL houses and then turn your gas and electricity off if they
> think you're using too much. That is pure unadulterated Communism and a
> large percentage of Californians AGREE with that.

Dumbass: the universal provision of electricity and gas to the home is,
at best, adulterated communism by regulation of the "natural" monopoly.

John Galt would self-generate his power,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

 

[Tom Kunich]

"Ryan Cousineau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:rcousine-5F0033.15073313012008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> Hmmmmm. And here's the real kicker - I was a John Kennedy Liberal and my
>> views haven't changed. Strangely enough, Liberalism has become little
>> more
>> than socialism bordering on Communism.
>>
>> Think of it this way - California intends to put radio controlled utility
>> meters on ALL houses and then turn your gas and electricity off if they
>> think you're using too much. That is pure unadulterated Communism and a
>> large percentage of Californians AGREE with that.
>
> Dumbass: the universal provision of electricity and gas to the home is,
> at best, adulterated communism by regulation of the "natural" monopoly.
>
> John Galt would self-generate his power,

Ryan, try arguing stupidly with yourself on this one. The utility companies
used to be completely free. The cities and later states went to regulation
because they didn't want endlessly different companies putting pipes under
or wires over public right-of-way.

Since the public owns the right-of-way it makes sense to sell that right of
way for certain agreements with utilities.

That isn't socialism but capitalism.

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <[email protected]>, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com>
wrote:

> "Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:af4dc7c1-7a00-4419-b7c6-36025da92451@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> > May be a really bad idea for here.
> > I was interested to see where folks on another NG I read wound up.
> > Pretty predictably since it's an author based group, and his writings
> > helped form our world views, we seemed to be in the same area for the
> > most part.
> > My guess is that it's a pretty close grouping here with a handful of
> > flyers.
> >
> > http://www.electoralcompass.com/
> >
> > I don't think they have a good handle on Ron Paul though.
>
> Here's the funny part - it claims that I'm closest in my outlook to Mitt
> Romney and John McCain both of whom I agree with about 75% of the time. Then
> when I look at Fred Thompson it shows that I agree with him 83% of the
> issues.
>
> Hmmmmm. And here's the real kicker - I was a John Kennedy Liberal and my
> views haven't changed.

HA HA HA HA HA! You funny.

> Think of it this way - California intends to put radio controlled utility
> meters on ALL houses and then turn your gas and electricity off if they
> think you're using too much.

Cite a source, please.

--
tanx,
Howard

Now it's raining pitchforks and women,
But I've already got a pitchfork...

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[Mark Fennell]

Howard Kveck wrote:
>TK said:
>> Think of it this way - California intends to put radio controlled utility
>> meters on ALL houses and then turn your gas and electricity off if they
>> think you're using too much.
>
> Cite a source, please.

Howard, he's actually right about this one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us/11control.html?em&ex=1200200400&en=fdc66b5d69c13c6e&ei=5087

No problem with it personally, but I think they should consider a
reverse-911 style system instead, where they say "turn down your thermostat
or else we (the utility) jack up your rate 10X today". Or something like
that.

As with gasoline, the price of most conventional energy production and its
usage doesn't reflect the true cost. Instead of remotely turning it down,
let the supply/demand dynamic take care of the problem. (Easy to say here
where it was 78 degrees in mid Jan!)

Mark
http://marcofanelli.blogspot.com

 

[Tom Kunich]

"Mark Fennell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Howard Kveck wrote:
>>TK said:
>>> Think of it this way - California intends to put radio controlled
>>> utility
>>> meters on ALL houses and then turn your gas and electricity off if they
>>> think you're using too much.
>>
>> Cite a source, please.
>
> Howard, he's actually right about this one.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us/11control.html?em&ex=1200200400&en=fdc66b5d69c13c6e&ei=5087
>
> No problem with it personally, but I think they should consider a
> reverse-911 style system instead, where they say "turn down your
> thermostat or else we (the utility) jack up your rate 10X today". Or
> something like that.
>
> As with gasoline, the price of most conventional energy production and its
> usage doesn't reflect the true cost. Instead of remotely turning it down,
> let the supply/demand dynamic take care of the problem. (Easy to say here
> where it was 78 degrees in mid Jan!)

Howard wants to feel that everyone is getting the same deal. Of course then
he'll claim that it wasn't his intention that hundreds of old people die
from the cold when the state turns off their sole source of heat in freezing
cold.

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <[email protected]>, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com>
wrote:

> Howard wants to feel that everyone is getting the same deal. Of course then
> he'll claim that it wasn't his intention that hundreds of old people die
> from the cold when the state turns off their sole source of heat in freezing
> cold.

Idiot, do you think that the power companies *don't already* turn old people's
power off when they can't pay their bills, no matter what the weather is like? Where
do you get the idea that old people are using too much power anyway? It seems far
more likely that rich people in big houses that think they're entitled to use as much
power as they desire are going to be using too much power.

By the way, I suppose it's silly of me to reply to a cowardly cretin like you who
seemingly has killfiled me. But you will reply after reading my posts as others
respond to them. I guess you got tired of me proving you wrong again and again.

--
tanx,
Howard

Now it's raining pitchforks and women,
But I've already got a pitchfork...

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[Fred Fredburger]

Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com>
> wrote:
>
>> Howard wants to feel that everyone is getting the same deal. Of course then
>> he'll claim that it wasn't his intention that hundreds of old people die
>> from the cold when the state turns off their sole source of heat in freezing
>> cold.
>
> Idiot, do you think that the power companies *don't already* turn old people's
> power off when they can't pay their bills, no matter what the weather is like? Where
> do you get the idea that old people are using too much power anyway? It seems far
> more likely that rich people in big houses that think they're entitled to use as much
> power as they desire are going to be using too much power.
>
> By the way, I suppose it's silly of me to reply to a cowardly cretin like you who
> seemingly has killfiled me. But you will reply after reading my posts as others
> respond to them. I guess you got tired of me proving you wrong again and again.
>
..

 

[[email protected]]

On Jan 13, 10:29 pm, "Mark Fennell" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
> >TK said:
> >> Think of it this way - California intends to put radio controlled utility
> >> meters on ALL houses and then turn your gas and electricity off if they
> >> think you're using too much.
>
> > Cite a source, please.
>
> Howard, he's actually right about this one.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us/11control.html?em&ex=1200200400&...
>
> No problem with it personally, but I think they should consider a
> reverse-911 style system instead, where they say "turn down your thermostat
> or else we (the utility) jack up your rate 10X today". Or something like
> that.
>
> As with gasoline, the price of most conventional energy production and its
> usage doesn't reflect the true cost. Instead of remotely turning it down,
> let the supply/demand dynamic take care of the problem. (Easy to say here
> where it was 78 degrees in mid Jan!)
>
> Markhttp://marcofanelli.blogspot.com


I'm trying to figure out if the people who think
this is Big Brother encroachment also think that
brownouts and rolling blackouts are Big Brother
encroachment. That is, the utility already has
the ability to cut your power and leave you in
the dark if it can't supply enough juice. So if
it reaches into your house and adjusts the AC
instead, is that worse?

IMO, the problem with most ideas about supply/demand
and unregulated electricity markets is that people
aren't used to monitoring their electric (or gas,
water) consumption, in the way that they comparison
shop at the supermarket. There is a gas meter outside
my house with a little spinning dial in cubic feet.
If that meter were in my living room and denominated
in dollars, it would be easier for me to figure
out how to reduce my consumption. Even more so for
electricity. There was a recent NY Times article
about an experiment in Washington where they did
essentially this. It worked quite well. But nobody
is volunteering to roll it out everywhere; it seems
like the problem is outdated rate structures as
much as installation cost:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/technology/10energy.html

Ben

 

[Tom Kunich]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I'm trying to figure out if the people who think
> this is Big Brother encroachment also think that
> brownouts and rolling blackouts are Big Brother
> encroachment. That is, the utility already has
> the ability to cut your power and leave you in
> the dark if it can't supply enough juice. So if
> it reaches into your house and adjusts the AC
> instead, is that worse?

And I'm trying to understand what a stupid ass such as yourself understands
about any of this. After all, the REASON we're having brown-outs and
black-outs is because of socialist controls of the price of energy and NOT
allowing power plants to be placed where needed. Priced correctly there
would be more than enough energy and never would there be a brown-out.