OT: Words from a great man

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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:22:20 -0800, "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote:

>We have the same dilemma today........ considering to nuke Iran off the
>face of the Earth so it will cost less in the long run. Do you see a
>political problem with that?


Remember any neocon lies?
Or that it's probably none of your business if Iran
wants & needs nuclear power or not?
Or that the US lost a customer?
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Cliff
 
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:47:54 -0800, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

>"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Those who beat their swords into ploughshares will plow for those who
>> don't."

>
>And there's been quite a few examples of exactly that happening. But
>according to many here if we just are very nice to others they're just
>naturally be very nice to us.


The results of the converse are rather clear to many.
Mostly they are dead too.
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Cliff
 
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 05:32:11 -0800, Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:

>http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,155801,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl
>WASHINGTON - Veterans make up one in four homeless people in the
>United States, though they are only 11 percent of the general adult
>population, according to a report released Nov. 8.


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/01/military-overmedicating-us-troops/
" ... too often the U.S. military is trying to medicate the problem away.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/15/army-suicide-rate-highest-in-26-years/
"Army soldiers committed suicide last year at the highest rate in 26 years,
and more than a quarter did so while serving in Iraq and Afghanistan .."

HTH
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Cliff
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:36 -0800, Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:

>> > >Why not? Stalin had already killed 10-20 million.

>>
>> > HUH?

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>> huh what?
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>Cliffy isn't real rational. I'd doubt he believes that what Soviets
>did was in any way bad, because they meant well and were trying to
>better humanity. Sometimes things don't always go perfectly but when
>it's in the name of "Socialist Justice" it's to be excused, and if
>those people wouldn't object to what their great and wise, visionary
>leaders were trying to do for them, then this wouldn't have happened.
>It's all those scumbags faults for questioning the path of Socialism,
>and since they were too stupid to know what was good for them, and
>everyone else they needed to be dealt with anyway.
> He's fully in favor of the Soviet policy of putting "Mentally sick
>criminals" like human rights activists into mental health facilities
>because it's obvious they have a disease isn't it, when they object to
>the State's great plans.
> Normally he's one of the few people I ignore. He's a lot like Gunner.
>The only difference being whom they want to send off to the camps,
>really. There's not a whole lot of freedom in either of their visions
>for dissent.


Gummer & crew just love to count the effects of WW-II on
the USSR as deaths caused by Stalin those in China as caused
by Mao.
The USSR alone has about 23,600,000 (or over 13%
of the total population) die while China lost 20,000,000
(or about 4% of it's population).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

I went over the numbers a bit back and, if you
exclude WW-II, those that claim such numbers must be
rather unmitigated liars. Nor do they account for
weather-related deaths (famines & floods).
One would otherwise have seen sharp drops in population
statistics ... and they are not there to support the winger
claims.
Not that Stalin was not a winger towards the end ..
they'd have voted for him just as their crew was supporting
****** prior to WW-II. The darling of the right-wing.

I'll also point out that to a very large degree it was US policy
that drove both Mao & Stalin after WW-II. The US WAS
out to get them. AFTER they had helped win WW-II.
Who to trust? Not the US.

HTH
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Cliff
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:54:33 -0800, Gunner Asch <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Its when they start ACTING on their agendas..that they should be hung
>from the neck until dead dead dead. Least..those that run against the
>Constitution and the Bill of Rights...which frankly...is most of their
>agendas.


He loves neocons & deficits for which
he'll be forever paying but can find no "WMDs" ...
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Cliff