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[Rick Onanian]

On 29 Apr 2004 20:34:35 GMT, David Reuteler <[email protected]>
wrote:
>install FreeBSD (WARNING: May cause loss of data)
>% tin
>(bliss)

Ooh...can this start a FreeBSD vs. Slackware war?
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Rick Onanian

 

[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
Rick Onanian <[email protected]> writes:
> On 29 Apr 2004 20:34:35 GMT, David Reuteler
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>install FreeBSD (WARNING: May cause loss of data)
>>% tin
>>(bliss)
>
> Ooh...can this start a FreeBSD vs. Slackware war?

All OSS is good.

Especially w/ SoftUpdates. And the FreeBSD ports collection.

- Tom

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[Sittingduck]

curt wrote:

> I top post all the time. I don't like to scroll down. Who
> gives a **** if people top or bottom post really? Life is
> too short to worry about such meaningless stuff.

Lots of people do.

http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

Your attitude will no doubt gain you entry into many
killfiles. No loss really, if you can't be bothered with
such a small and simple courtesy, you probably have nothing
of value to say.

 

[David Reuteler]

Rick Onanian <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ooh...can this start a FreeBSD vs. Slackware war?

sure, if you'd like. we could also debate who makes a better
bike; colnago or huffy.

bait, bait, bait ..

just kidding. mostly. i do remember my room-mate
installing slackware 1.N from a box of 100 3.5" floppies
.. i was a snooty SunOS/NetBSD user at the time. i
snickered, i laughed, i had no choice: i didn't own an
i386 box until 2002.

i'd love to sneak in some bike content but i have nearly
nothing to report. my bikes continue to work with no
problems. i haven't even bought anything bike related for
over 2 months. it's a little creepy. i bike to work daily
and daily (for months now) people refrain from screaming at
me or being rude. in fact people have been saying hello
much more frequently. not even a single flat. i usually get
tons of flats.

eh?

is this a spring thing or what?

well, there has been one thing .. on the way down the local
hill climb (4400ft over 18miles) the last 3 times i've seen
the aftermath of a car over the edge. the third time they
were winching the car (complete with corpse) up a 780 foot
ravine. i took the opportunity to check the q/r skewer on my
front disc brake.

unmoved and still tight!
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[Skip]

"Harris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> S o r n i <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Peter wrote:
> > > I just checked my Shop Help post and found it had
> > > formatted as a TopPost. Knowing how some people detest
> > > this practise I am asking if it is possible to Bottom
> > > Post with OE and if so how? Thanks.
>
> > Yes, you simply move the cursor below that to which
> > you're replying.
>
> Oh, wow! But like what if my mouse gets to the bottom of
> the mouse pad before the cursor gets to the bottom of
> the text?
>
> Art
>

Go to your computer store and ask them for an XL mouse pad.

 

[Rick Onanian]

On 30 Apr 2004 04:50:18 GMT, David Reuteler <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Rick Onanian <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ooh...can this start a FreeBSD vs. Slackware war?
>
>sure, if you'd like. we could also debate who makes a
>better bike; colnago or huffy. bait, bait, bait ..

...Must...resist...bait...urge...growing...argh! <G>

>just kidding. mostly. i do remember my room-mate
>installing slackware 1.N from a box of 100 3.5" floppies
>.. i was a snooty SunOS/NetBSD user at the time. i
>snickered, i laughed, i had no choice: i didn't own an
>i386 box until 2002.

I did it from floppies once, but I never got interested
until I had it on a CD for some reason...anyway, the last
time I installed both slackware and freebsd, they were
nearly identical, except for kernel and freebsd's Ports
collection (nice!).

>i'd love to sneak in some bike content but i have nearly
>nothing to report. my bikes continue to work with no
>problems. i haven't even bought anything bike related for
>over 2 months. it's a little creepy. i bike to work

I bought a new saddle yesterday for my mtb, but it's so
pretty and looks like it will be so comfortable that I hate
to get it dirty. I'll have to get some miles on it so I know
if I like it before the last two sell out at the store...

>daily and daily (for months now) people refrain from
>screaming at me or being rude. in fact people have been
>saying hello much more frequently. not even a single flat.
>i usually get tons of flats.

While riding on Wednesday, I took a wrong turn and decided
to walk a bit while I was on the wrong side of a large
intersection. A guy in a pickup stopped to offer me a tube,
thinking I had a flat tire.

>eh? is this a spring thing or what?

The wind around here is a real bummer. Makes me not want to
ride in otherwise beautiful weather. How can I get past the
wind blues?
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[S O R N I]

Rick Onanian wrote:
> I bought a new saddle yesterday for my mtb, but it's so
> pretty and looks like it will be so comfortable that I
> hate to get it dirty. I'll have to get some miles on it so
> I know if I like it before the last two sell out at the
> store...

Whaddja get?!? I just ordered an SLR from non-Performance,
mainly because I can return it to the local store if
necessary. (Using the Era Luxe that came on road bike on my
mtb; tried MANY saddles on the roadie so far.)

Bill "questing" S.

 

[Rick Onanian]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:42:57 GMT, " S o r n i"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Rick Onanian wrote:
>> I bought a new saddle yesterday for my mtb, but it's so
>> pretty and
>
>Whaddja get?!? I just ordered an SLR from non-Performance,
>mainly because I

A Bontrager with pretty stitching at all three corners, an
anatomic depression, and the plastic underframe cut out at
the anatomic depression. The only ID on it is a Bontrager
logo near the nose. I'll post pictures...uhh...now!

Maybe somebody can ID it: http://members.cox.net/cows/Saddle-
top.jpg Pretty stitching http://members.cox.net/cows/Saddle-
rail.jpg Cool markings http://members.cox.net/cows/Saddle-
under.jpg Anatomic cutout & protective plastic side bumpers

>can return it to the local store if necessary. (Using the
>Era Luxe that came on road bike on my mtb; tried MANY
>saddles on the roadie so far.)
>
>Bill "questing" S.

I haven't been on any kind of quest; I've been pretty happy
with the Selle Italia Prolink on my road bike, except a
little numbness; I think there's a Prolink with a cutout
available too, but if I like this Bontrager unidentified
saddle object then I'll buy the other two that the LBS has.

I'm beginning a [hopefully short] quest for a mtb saddle
since my suspension post broke and I'm not confident that
another won't break (although the Tamer Tricky **** might
survive my fat ass).
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[S O R N I]

Rick Onanian wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:42:57 GMT, " S o r n i" <sorni@bite-
> me.san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Rick Onanian wrote:
>>> I bought a new saddle yesterday for my mtb, but it's so
>>> pretty and
>>
>> Whaddja get?!? I just ordered an SLR from non-
>> Performance, mainly because I
>
> A Bontrager with pretty stitching at all three corners, an
> anatomic depression,

Don't let the numbness get you down. (Poor attempt at
"anatomic depression" humor

Many years ago, I joined a Pedros team (really just a
sponsored group), and one of the benes was a Bontrager
saddle (SA-10?) for $5. Most confortable seat ever (so
naturally I gave it to a friend who did some wrenching for
me -- @&*@*_#_!!!)...

Bill "still use the headbands often" S.

 

[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
David Reuteler <[email protected]> writes:

> just kidding. mostly. i do remember my room-mate
> installing slackware 1.N from a box of 100 3.5" floppies

That sounds like the old Soft Landing Software thing from
back in '93 (about when BSDI came out with v.1.0 -- the 'UNIX[tm]-
encumbered' disc, which I still have.)

> is this a spring thing or what?

I wiped out real good today. Bad landing from a showy-offy
jump. I forgot I was off-balanced by a load of stuff in the
milk crate. Me 'n my saddle sustained a light dose of road
rash on our left corners. Out comes the duct tape. I feel so
alive! I (ouch) luv it! I'm taking something for the pain
right now. It's delicious, and not too warm; not too cold.
Anyhow, I've gotta get back to work pretty soon,
transcribing a docu about sustainable housing being
associatedly built & overseen by the Canadian Mortgage and
Housing Corporation (CMHC) for a local Native band on
Seabird Island, British Columbia. Actually, it's pretty
interesting.

I really wanna do that jump again, and do it right this
time. Just to resolve it, and break my height record. But
... "tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow." I've got more
important things to take care of, right now. And then I've
gotta try to get some work done.

- Tom

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[David Reuteler]

Tom Keats <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> David Reuteler <[email protected]> writes:
>> is this a spring thing or what?
>
> I wiped out real good today.

i got stung by wasps today. i stopped at the top of a pass
for a victory dance and one flew into my (soon to be short)
hair, got snared and let me have it. it had friends .. i
picked 3 of 'em out of my hair

jinx.

well, that's the first time i have ever been stung. not so
bad. i'll take it over your fall i suppose. if it's a jinx i
got off easy (too easy?). now i'm all paranoid.
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[Loki]

"David Reuteler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tom Keats <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article
> > <[email protected]>,
> > David Reuteler <[email protected]> writes:
> >> is this a spring thing or what?
> >
> > I wiped out real good today.
>
> i got stung by wasps today. i stopped at the top of a pass
> for a victory dance and one flew into my (soon to be
> short) hair, got snared and let me have it. it had friends
> .. i picked 3 of 'em out of my hair

Yesterday [Thursday] I must have inhaled a few dozen
of those tiny flying bugs - mebbe small mosquitos? -
I'm not sure.

Aint a rainy spring season grand?

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[David Reuteler]

loki <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yesterday [Thursday] I must have inhaled a few dozen of
> those tiny flying bugs - mebbe small mosquitos? - I'm
> not sure.

yummm, as a vegetarian i relish the accidental* protein.
well, not literally. i haven't yet found a good
condiment for bugs.

http://www.clearfour.com/condiment/ http://www.szgdocent.org/ff/f-
arth3c.htm

* don't think too much about this.
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[Tom Keats]

In article <[email protected]>,
David Reuteler <[email protected]> writes:
> Tom Keats <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article
>> <[email protected]>,
>> David Reuteler <[email protected]> writes:
>>> is this a spring thing or what?
>>
>> I wiped out real good today.
>
> i got stung by wasps today. i stopped at the top of a pass
> for a victory dance and one flew into my (soon to be
> short) hair,

When you get it cut, you're gonna hear wind noise like
you're in a Sopwith Camel. It's pretty freaky. Especially
when the wind sings thru helmet straps.

got snared and let me
> have it. it had friends .. i picked 3 of 'em out of my
> hair
>
> jinx.

It's just about time for the crows to start protecting their
broods. Being set-upon by those squawky bastards is really
unnerving, and sometimes ya just wanna bash 'em with a
Louisville Slugger. Until you see them lying pathetically
dead on the streets, from Quixotically attacking cars. Then
it's just heart-rending.

I think it's almost metaphorical of what's happening in
Iraq.

Maybe it's the same thing with wasps. I guess crows and
wasps just aren't geared to have Western-style democracy
foisted upon them.

> well, that's the first time i have ever been stung. not so
> bad. i'll take it over your fall i suppose.

It was more of a sidelong flight than a fall. I came out of
it okay, except for a somewhat stingy left elbow & knee.
Most importantly, the bike is okay, except for a scrape on
the saddle. Some people came out of their houses to see if I
was okay. Maybe I shoulda played it up and gotten cakes and
tea & sympathy from 'em.

> if it's a jinx i got off easy (too easy?). now i'm all
> paranoid.

Stinging flying insects are infuriated by CO2 for some
reason. All you've gotta do, is not exhale.

- Tom

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[Rick Onanian]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:52:48 -0700, [email protected] (Tom Keats)
wrote:
>I've gotta get back to work pretty soon, transcribing a
>docu about sustainable housing being associatedly built &
>overseen by the Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corporation
>(CMHC) for a local Native band on Seabird Island, British
>Columbia. Actually, it's pretty interesting.

What would a local Native band need cable housings for, and
why would CMHC be involved? What kind of music does the band
play, anyway?
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[Rick Onanian]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:04:46 GMT, maxo <[email protected]> wrote:
>Highly recommended instead of a suspension post:
>
>A Brooks Champion Flyer, which is a 5-17 with springs.
>Single rail for
>http://www.wallbike.com/jpgs/chflyblackback.jpg (It's less
>bulky than it looks, weight around 500g)

Yikes. When my seatpost broke, I wanted to continue riding,
so I grabbed the seatpost I had available, including the
saddle that was on it; it's a Trico wide gel anatomic-relief
saddle. It's not as wide as that Brooks. However, it was too
wide for me; it hurt the back of my legs where they meet my
ass. Also, it's difficult to get behind when braking hard.

>Lasts forever, and probably cheaper than a new post I
>got mine at Nashbar for 50.00 on close out. Wahoo!

I just ordered a returned Tamer Tricky **** post for $53
from Nashbar... the design looks more robust than the
Thudbuster but with similar advantages.
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[Rick Onanian]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:25:03 GMT, " S o r n i"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Rick Onanian wrote:
>> A Bontrager with pretty stitching at all three corners,
>> an anatomic depression,
>
>Don't let the numbness get you down. (Poor attempt at
>"anatomic depression" humor

Oy! It was so pretty and I was so eager to try it that I
stuck it on the road bike, carefully making sure it's
position/angle matched the existing saddle. I rode with it,
and it was not good for my road biking; too soft. My ass
felt like I had put on twice as many miles. I'll put the
Selle Italia Prolink back on the road bike. I think the
Bontrager will work for me for mtbing, though.

>Many years ago, I joined a Pedros team (really just a
>sponsored group), and one of the benes was a Bontrager
>saddle (SA-10?) for $5. Most confortable seat ever (so
>naturally I gave it to a friend who did some wrenching for
>me -- @&*@*_#_!!!)...

I suspect that the saddle that came on my mtb would be okay,
but I gave it away to somebody who didn't have a saddle when
I wanted to ride with him...
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[Billy Bigelow]

Just be sure and trim the excess quoting...

"Peter" <[email protected]>
> I just checked my Shop Help post and found it had
> formatted as a TopPost. Knowing how some people detest
> this practise I am asking if it is possible to Bottom Post
> with OE and if so how? Thanks.

 

[S O R N I]

Billy Bigelow (fittingly) top-posted:

> "Peter" <[email protected]>

>> I just checked my Shop Help post and found it had
>> formatted as a TopPost. Knowing how some people detest
>> this practise I am asking if it is possible to Bottom
>> Post with OE and if so how? Thanks.

> Just be sure and trim the excess quoting...

And move text when necessary.

Bill "love the smell of..." S.

 

[neil0502]

Originally posted by Peter
I just checked my Shop Help post and found it had formatted
as a TopPost. Knowing how some people detest this practise I
am asking if it is possible to Bottom Post with OE and if so
how? Thanks.

I'm glad you brought this up. I _was_ unfamiliar with the terms "top post" and "bottom post" until this thread enlightened me. A couple of quick comments:

1) I chose to top post when a thread was fairly new, especially if the original post was fairly short. Even if excerpting (trimming) the OP, unless I was taking a very specific point out of context, I didn't think it added value to simply repeat the OP's words--again, _unless_ those words needed to come before my post to ensure my reference was clear;

2) Even when a thread had ambled on a page or two, unless--as they sooo often do--the posts are going _way_ off topic, I was sort of taking the position that the topic was the topic, and that top-posting saved readers from endless variations on the same theme. In other words, if the topic is "puncture proof tires," and the thread hasn't yet turned into some battle about gun control, I would typically choose either to top post (e.g., "Use liners.") or to post without quoting.

3) Despite some pretty rational arguments that I've heard for the evil of top posting, I happen to find it simpler and quicker to read a string of top posts. It allows me to quickly scan below to decide if the context that I assumed was, indeed correct.

I was always under the impression that these NG's were to be relatively conversational. If a conversation is ongoing, then most of its ongoing participants don't need every prior statement repeated. Those new to the conversation can catch up quickly with a little extra scrolling and scanning. Again, this falls apart when the posters go 4,000 miles off topic.

My take: top posting is a poor technique for those who won't/don't appropriately excerpt messages. It almost seems to me that--if you do a 'proper' job with your snips--reading top posting (on topic) moves quicker.

4) Bottom line (for me): if the majority of people--for legitimate reasons--disdain top posting, I'll switch lickety-split. Not so big a deal for me that it's worth offending the masses. I can do that in many, many other ways

Neil