Overtrained?

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  1. ryno32

    ryno32 New Member

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    This is data from a 5.6-mile segment, with 1,322 feet of elevation gain (4% grade). My last two rides on this segment were comparable in time and avg bpm, but my actual and perceived efforts for those times has increased markedly (over 10bpm faster for same time). My last twelve weeks of training in time are as follows: 4:23, 9:03, 8:01, 3:41, 6:24, 3:50, 3:19, 3:59, 6:23, 6:11, 4:41, 2:46. My training hasn't changed much, but some variables are that it's colder, windier, rainier, more layering, more trainer riding with intervals, etc. Has anyone else experienced this? Thoughts? Thanks.

    1 Ryan Oct 29, 2014 11.7mi/h 168bpm 214W 840.2 28:46 2 Ryan Oct 14, 2014 11.6mi/h 170bpm 214W 833.0 29:01 3 Ryan Oct 2, 2014 11.4mi/h 167bpm 205W 817.5 29:34 4 Ryan Nov 16, 2014 10.9mi/h 164bpm 196W 783.5 30:51 5 Ryan Oct 21, 2014 10.8mi/h 158bpm 194W 775.1 31:11 6 Ryan Oct 27, 2014 10.8mi/h 159bpm 193W 773.1 31:16 7 Ryan Dec 20, 2014 10.8mi/h 171bpm 193W 771.4 31:20 8 Ryan Dec 9, 2014 10.7mi/h 171bpm 192W 768.6 31:27 9 Ryan Aug 14, 2014 10.5mi/h 157bpm 193W 752.6 32:07 10 Ryan Dec 4, 2014 10.4mi/h 157bpm 184W 749.5 32:15 11 Ryan Oct 10, 2014 10.4mi/h 153bpm 184W 748.7 32:17
     
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  2. Devrim Uyanik

    Devrim Uyanik New Member

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    Undertrained may be? 3-4 hours per week may not be enough to maintain the summer fitness?
     
  3. verner

    verner New Member

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    Hard to say overtrained is the reason for the heart rate / perceived effort....You mentioned weather, dress.
    I am thinking your core temp maybe going up from the lack of air flow/cooling.

    Try a indoor trainer doing the same effort. Try it once with a fan blowing on you and once with no fan.
     
  4. ryno32

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    Thanks for the feedback. Interesting thought regarding undertrained. When I was setting all those PRs on those climbs last summer/fall, I was tapping into some summer running fitness--albeit, not that much--and since transitioning from running to cycling, I have not done any running (since August). Since it's a bit too cold now to climb, I've been putting in some volume here in the valley. Today, I did an effort on a different climb and, still, there is a significant discrepancy in HR and corresponding time.

    This is a 5.5 mile climb segment (5% grade and 1560 ft of gain). Less than two months ago, at the same avg HR as today, I was 2.5 minutes faster on the climb. Last summer/fall, I had to work really hard to get a 170 avg HR on a long segment like this. Now, I'm very comfortable riding at low- to mid-170s. I didn't push at all, today, but my avg HR was 172. I wore the same clothing today as I did on November 23, 2014; however, it was a bit warmer today. Number of hours of riding the last 8 weeks: 4, 6, 6, 5, 3, 9, 11, 4 (so far this week). This is pretty comparable to my summer training.

    1 Ryan Nov 23, 2014 10.2mi/h 173bpm 234W 884.8 32:15 2 Ryan Nov 9, 2014 10.1mi/h 170bpm 227W 877.1 32:32 3 Ryan Oct 24, 2014 9.9mi/h 167bpm 224W 859.9 33:11 4 Ryan Sep 27, 2014 9.7mi/h 168bpm 218W 844.7 33:47 5 Ryan Oct 7, 2014 9.5mi/h 167bpm 213W 827.1 34:30 6 Ryan Jan 10, 2015 9.5mi/h 172bpm 218W 822.4 34:42 7 Ryan Nov 1, 2014 8.7mi/h 159bpm 191W 750.3 38:02 8 Ryan Oct 19, 2014 8.6mi/h 154bpm 193W 748.6 38:07 9 Ryan Oct 12, 2014 8.0mi/h 153bpm 181W 694.9 41:04
     
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