Panorama takes to its bike

[davidof]

So who caught Stephanie Flander's on Panorama? She looks like a real
cyclist, even if she did use the train and stuck to sensible H&M fashion
rather than Adrian Chiles figure hugging Lycra.

 

[Chris Malcolm]

davidof <[email protected]> wrote:
> So who caught Stephanie Flander's on Panorama? She looks like a real
> cyclist, even if she did use the train and stuck to sensible H&M fashion
> rather than Adrian Chiles figure hugging Lycra.

I was impressed. She took all of the usual driving-in-car continuity
shots typical of this kind of documentary and converted them to
bicycle. Also impressive was that she said not a work about bicycles,
just used it matter of factly as how she got from A to B, with
opportunities for sight seeing and commentary along the way.

My wife noticed that she was riding a man's bike (looked like a
hybrid) in a skirt. What do the the women here ride?

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[wafflycat]

"Chris Malcolm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> My wife noticed that she was riding a man's bike (looked like a
> hybrid) in a skirt. What do the the women here ride?
>

I suppose my everyday bike (tourer) and racer could each be described as a
"man's" bike - as they have a crossbar. Much better as more rigid than a
"woman's" bike. These flex a lot less than my hybrid which is a "woman's"
bike. Must admit I don't like the description which allocates gender use to
a bike. It can put blokes of riding a step-through frame if they think of it
as a "woman's" bike and it can put a woman off riding a bike with a crossbar
if they think of it as a "man's" bike. I've had some very strange looks from
genteel ladies & gents as I cycle along on Gino or Luigi and have had
comments of "Why are you riding a man's bike?" through pursed lips and
disapproving gazes. I'm occasionally tempted to reply, "'Cos I'm a butch
lesser in Lycra. Got a problem with that?" ;-) But I refrain and tell them
that it's my preferred bike which does the job it's supposed to do admirably
without flexing too much.

Cheers, helen s

 

[davidof]

Chris Malcolm wrote:
> davidof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>So who caught Stephanie Flander's on Panorama? She looks like a real
>>cyclist, even if she did use the train and stuck to sensible H&M fashion
>>rather than Adrian Chiles figure hugging Lycra.
>
>
> I was impressed. She took all of the usual driving-in-car continuity
> shots typical of this kind of documentary and converted them to
> bicycle.

Yes they were very good - reporting as art. I noticed she was wearing
knee length leather boots at one point - but she was correctly using the
balls of the foot, also when she dismounted (on a crossbared bike) with
a skirt she was very proficient.

I wonder how the camerman got around?

I think your point is key though, it implies that cycling is a
completely normal and legitimate way to get about.

 

[Simon Mason]

"Chris Malcolm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Also impressive was that she said not a work about bicycles,
> just used it matter of factly as how she got from A to B, with
> opportunities for sight seeing and commentary along the way.

Of course Adam Hart Davis did the same in his "Local Heroes" shows.

--
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http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

 

[Steph Peters]

Chris Malcolm <[email protected]> of Edinburgh University wrote:
>My wife noticed that she was riding a man's bike (looked like a
>hybrid) in a skirt. What do the the women here ride?

Every day transport use is a Specialised Hard Rock. Was neither a man's nor
women's model when purchased, just the smallest size (I have very short
legs). In order to keep the standover height low it has an almost mixte
frame. For anything up to 5 miles into Manchester city centre I don't
change clothes to ride it, so for comfort that tends to equate to skirts in
summer, trousers in winter.

My tourer is used for weekend riding for fun. I had a frame custom made in
order to get a normal diamond frame with a cross bar small enough for me,
but with 700C wheels. Shorts in summer, cycling longs in winter; don't
remember wearing a skirt on it.

Back when I was an impecunious student I had a Raleigh Arena with a
crossbar. I did once cycle about 15 miles in full length black evening
dress pulled up out of the way. Wind conditions and flappy dress revealed
to one and all that I was wearing stockings and suspenders underneath - one
car load of Arabic looking men went 3 times round the same roundabout to get
a good look!
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[Mark Thompson]

> And let's be honest, we know who would look better in either business
> dress /or/ Lycra, don't we chaps?

I still haven't recovered from Steph's description of her riding attire..

 

[Colin Blackburn]

davidof wrote:
> So who caught Stephanie Flander's on Panorama? She looks like a real
> cyclist, even if she did use the train and stuck to sensible H&M fashion
> rather than Adrian Chiles figure hugging Lycra.


It seems she is the daughter of Michael Flanders (Mud, mud, glorious
mud,...) and with her sister Laura she is joint president of Tripscope,
a charity dealing with transport accessibility.

Colin

 

[davidof]

Colin Blackburn wrote:
> davidof wrote:
>
>> So who caught Stephanie Flander's on Panorama? She looks like a real
>> cyclist, even if she did use the train and stuck to sensible H&M
>> fashion rather than Adrian Chiles figure hugging Lycra.
>
>
>
> It seems she is the daughter of Michael Flanders (Mud, mud, glorious
> mud,...) and with her sister Laura she is joint president of Tripscope,
> a charity dealing with transport accessibility.

Ah, the apostrophe S is my error then. Flanders and Swann I presume?

Tripscope, as opposed to Tripescope, the charity dealing with totally
bogus information. I note she seems to have also been an advisor to the
US Treasury - I can't quite work that one out.

 

[Simon Brooke]

in message <[email protected]>, davidof
('[email protected]') wrote:

> Colin Blackburn wrote:
>> davidof wrote:
>>
>>> So who caught Stephanie Flander's on Panorama? She looks like a real
>>> cyclist, even if she did use the train and stuck to sensible H&M
>>> fashion rather than Adrian Chiles figure hugging Lycra.
>>
>> It seems she is the daughter of Michael Flanders (Mud, mud, glorious
>> mud,...) and with her sister Laura she is joint president of
>> Tripscope, a charity dealing with transport accessibility.
>
> Ah, the apostrophe S is my error then. Flanders and Swann I presume?
>
> Tripscope, as opposed to Tripescope, the charity dealing with totally
> bogus information. I note she seems to have also been an advisor to the
> US Treasury - I can't quite work that one out.

According to her CV she is a very bright cookie indeed - Balliol and
Harvard; and then - presumably very young - leader writer and, more
impressively, economics columnist for the FT, no less. All that and easy
on the eye, too <fx: swoon>.

--
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[Chris Malcolm]

Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
> in message <[email protected]>, davidof
> ('[email protected]') wrote:

>> Colin Blackburn wrote:
>>> davidof wrote:
>>>
>>>> So who caught Stephanie Flander's on Panorama? She looks like a real
>>>> cyclist, even if she did use the train and stuck to sensible H&M
>>>> fashion rather than Adrian Chiles figure hugging Lycra.
>>>
>>> It seems she is the daughter of Michael Flanders (Mud, mud, glorious
>>> mud,...) and with her sister Laura she is joint president of
>>> Tripscope, a charity dealing with transport accessibility.
>>
>> Ah, the apostrophe S is my error then. Flanders and Swann I presume?
>>
>> Tripscope, as opposed to Tripescope, the charity dealing with totally
>> bogus information. I note she seems to have also been an advisor to the
>> US Treasury - I can't quite work that one out.

> According to her CV she is a very bright cookie indeed - Balliol and
> Harvard; and then - presumably very young - leader writer and, more
> impressively, economics columnist for the FT, no less. All that and easy
> on the eye, too <fx: swoon>.

Not just according to her CV. She appears now and then on news reports
on an economic topic. Never a wasted word. It also appears that she's
very good at appearing to be very intelligent to idiots, not always an
easy task, but she manages it very well with politicians, to judge by
their nervousness when confronted by her.

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[Euan]

>>>>> "Steph" == Steph Peters <[email protected]> writes:

Steph> Back when I was an impecunious student I had a Raleigh Arena
Steph> with a crossbar.

MMmm, Raleigh Arena; my first road bike. I was ten when I first got,
did me for over five years although the only original bits left on it
were the frame, the handlebars and the saddle. Everything else got
replaced at least once. I have very fond memories of that bike.
--
Cheers | ~~ __@
Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

 

[Steph Peters]

Euan <[email protected]> of Comindico Australia - reports relating to
abuse should be sent to [email protected] wrote:

>>>>>> "Steph" == Steph Peters <[email protected]> writes:
>
> Steph> Back when I was an impecunious student I had a Raleigh Arena
> Steph> with a crossbar.
>
>MMmm, Raleigh Arena; my first road bike. I was ten when I first got,
>did me for over five years although the only original bits left on it
>were the frame, the handlebars and the saddle. Everything else got
>replaced at least once. I have very fond memories of that bike.

Glad you liked yours Euan, mine OTOH was a pain. Quite literally, because
the frame was too big. When straddling the crossbar if I put one foot flat
on the floor the other had to be on tip-toe. It was also too long between
saddle and handlebars, so I couldn't reach the drops and had to use the
suicide levers. It's left me perennially unable (or at least unwilling) to
get used to drop bars.
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