Pantani named in Spanish doping affair... when will it end ?

[Prano]

Nothing. It is an article about T.Dekker training in Italy. There are pictures with T.Dekker, Jörg jaksche, Tyler Hamilton, Chichi and Chechini on a trainingsride. Dekkers says Chechini is training Basso and Ullrich. The reporter met Chechini and T.Dekker in a hotel, in the same hotel where the CSC team stayed during the stage of that day in the Giro (2006).

Again, if Cecchini is guilty of anything a lot of riders would fall under it. Cecchini was a good friend of Riis for a long time, Riis have learned frome some of his training methods from Cecchini. I have done some research, Thomas Dekker was wrong, apperently, when saying Basso was still under the influence of Cecchini. Cecchini was fired from training Basso when it was found out that Cecchini trained Ullrich..

 

[cyclingheroes]

Cecchini was fired from training Basso when it was found out that Cecchini trained Ullrich..

Says who?

 

[helmutRoole]

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/ciclismo/es/desarrollo/667517.html

Today's Marca has published the details of the drugs supplied to (PTNI) Pantani? in 2003.

40000 units of EPO
7 doses of growth hormone
30 doses of anabolics
4 doses of menopause hormones (!)

Maybe I should give up racing and let my mum have a go...

The menopause hormones are for after a cycle of anabolics. They are essentially estrogen blockers. When an athlete comes off a cycle (usally 10 weeks) of anabolics, their own ability to produce testosterone (test) is degraded. In short, estrogen cancels test. An estrogen blocker will allow what little test to be more effective until the athlete can produce is own.

Mexico. It's a great place to train for two months. Warm weather, great roads and food, and you don't need a prescription to buy steroids from any pharmacy. Just walk in and there you go. Di Luca trains there. Many North American pros train there.

It's hard to detect the use of test four or five weeks after the last injection. With the menopause hormones, most of the gains realized during injections are retained.

If you run three or four 10-week cycles per year and retain most of the gains, after a while you won't need the test anymore. There are guys sill repeating the benifits of drugs they used years ago.

 

[babylou]

Mexico. It's a great place to train for two months. Warm weather, great roads and food, and you don't need a prescription to buy steroids from any pharmacy. Just walk in and there you go. Di Luca trains there. Many North American pros train there.

Which American pros train in Mexico? Great food? If you like mud butt I suppose. The roads are pothole ridden and is there anywhere with worse air pollution? I would be amazed that someone would go to Mexico because of ease of buying steroids when they are so easily acquired everywhere else.

 

[helmutRoole]

Which American pros train in Mexico? Great food? If you like mud butt I suppose. The roads are pothole ridden and is there anywhere with worse air pollution? I would be amazed that someone would go to Mexico because of ease of buying steroids when they are so easily acquired everywhere else.

You're right. I just made all that **** up.

Di Luca never trained there. (http://www.bicirace.com/news/2005/20051103.html) & http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2005/giro05/?id=/features/2005/diluca_giro05 & http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=features/2005/liquigaspresentation

And steroids are easy to buy anywhere. I'm sure no one goes down to Mexico for that: http://www.steroidtips.com/mexican.htm & http://www.peoplesguide.com/1pages/chapts/health/buymed/cheapmed1.html

I mean, why would you travel to Mexico to buy steroids when it's so easy to acquire a prescription from your doctor for steroids? Or, just buy them off the Internet, right? There's no counterfeit steroids out there, right? http://www.steroidtips.com/fakes.htm
And for **** sake, what was I thinking: you can buy steroids on the street corner.

Man, you're so right. You busted me. I don't know anything. I never raced as a pro. I never worked as a journalist covering cycling. I hang my head in shame. I'm the moron, not you. You know how to use google but apparently you just didn't. You the man.

But, about the food, I didn't make that up. The food is good down there. http://www.differentworld.com/mexico/common/pages/food.htm

 

[bored_again]

The menopause hormones are for after a cycle of anabolics. They are essentially estrogen blockers. When an athlete comes off a cycle (usally 10 weeks) of anabolics, their own ability to produce testosterone (test) is degraded. In short, estrogen cancels test. An estrogen blocker will allow what little test to be more effective until the athlete can produce is own.
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Thanks for the info, I wondered why menopause hormones were useful.
As for Mexico, its been an open secret for a while now that teams head there fro 'training'. I dug out an old copy of 'Procycling' (May 2006) which quotes Marc Madiot as saying 'This year, one of the major revelations of the Tour went to Mexico for a training camp just before the race began. Before that, the guy couldn't get over a railway bridge. At the Tour he was transformed.' For a period of a couple of years the Mexican federation didn't carry out any dope tests, although now, at least publicly, the federation appear to be trying to change that.

 

[MJtje]

Nothing. It is an article about T.Dekker training in Italy. There are pictures with T.Dekker, Jörg jaksche, Tyler Hamilton, Chichi and Chechini on a trainingsride. Dekkers says Chechini is training Basso and Ullrich. The reporter met Chechini and T.Dekker in a hotel, in the same hotel where the CSC team stayed during the stage of that day in the Giro (2006).

Interesting info, just to get the facts straight: T. Dekker said in that interview that Checcini still works with Basso and Ullrich?