Pantani's Mother Seeks New Inquest



Well the book written by French journalist Phillippe Brunel on the death of Marco Pantani has been somewhat of an affirmation of what she (the mother)had been saying from the beginning, that some things do not add up at the death scene. The neck wounds on Pantani, the chinese takeout leftovers with no trace of chinese food in Pantani's body (if I have understood correctly) the shoddy investigation, and removal of organs from the autopsy, missing surveillance videos, lack of hotel intervention to noises and strange happenings, etc. (all in Brunels' book). Not to mention Pantani's pristine hands and a room completely destroyed.

A book will come out in February 2008 written by Tonina Pantani and Gianni Mura a journalist on the life and death of Marco Pantani. I believe it will present quite a different picture on than some of books released up till now.

Rolfrae said:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/27102007/58/mother-wants-new-inquest-pantani-s-death.html

Not sure what book this refers to or what the theory is - anybody know any more?
 
The book was published in France with title of Vie et Mort de Marco Pantani. Keep in mind that Brunel was a friend of Pantani. His views are not those of an impartial observer, he may be trying to redeem Pantani's memory according to his own motives, not find the truth. Read Matt Rendell's The Death of Marco Pantani if you want another view on this.

More on this book's controversial claims here.
 
or Brunel has the courage to research and report what no journalist in Italy has the will or courage to do. Rendell's book is one of the recent books I refer to, and is obviously held in high esteem by the blogger who wrote the book review of your hyperlink. I see Rendell's work as lacking in direct interviews with the people who lived most closely to Marco Pantani, i.e., his parents, teammates, legal advisers. He as other English language authors on the subject of Pantani, have relied heavily on the work of the Italian journalist Bergonzi, who has written his own book. Bergonzi, was very careful not to focus on the mediacal and judiscial lynching the athlete indured from the time of his 1999 giro exclusion.
vanguard said:
The book was published in France with title of Vie et Mort de Marco Pantani. Keep in mind that Brunel was a friend of Pantani. His views are not those of an impartial observer, he may be trying to redeem Pantani's memory according to his own motives, not find the truth. Read Matt Rendell's The Death of Marco Pantani if you want another view on this.

More on this book's controversial claims here.
 
ilpirata said:
Bergonzi, was very careful not to focus on the mediacal and judiscial lynching the athlete indured from the time of his 1999 giro exclusion.
As a non-Italian I find it quite incredible to compare the way that Marco was treated by his own federation and peers and the way that Basso has been treated. Basso blatantly lied about blood doping and yes, he has been banned, but it's almost as if he was just caught playing the game. If Marco was using EPO (and who wasn't back in the day) then he was only racing against other EPO users. Yet, he was treated like a pariah, as if he was the source of all cycling's woes. There were theories that catching him out in '99 was a way of sending a message to other dopers but in actual fact all that happened was they ruined Marco and the dopers kept on doping. It seems that in death as well as in life, Marco is an enigma.
 
Rolfrae said:
I find it quite incredible to compare the way that Marco was treated by his own federation and peers and the way that Basso has been treated. Basso blatantly lied about blood doping and yes, he has been banned, but it's almost as if he was just caught playing the game..
Indeed... The footballer Sinisa Mihailovic said after the death of Pantani, "The Italians I have met are a friendly and welcoming people, but this could never happen in another country. Heroes elsewhere are greatly valued. They are never destroyed".
 
ilpirata said:
Indeed... The footballer Sinisa Mihailovic said after the death of Pantani, "The Italians I have met are a friendly and welcoming people, but this could never happen in another country. Heroes elsewhere are greatly valued. They are never destroyed".
Oh no, not another "who killed Princess Diana, Kennedy, Elvis" conspiracy theory! Pantani was a cocaine addict who was willing to lie, deceive, use and abuse everyone and anyone to ensure he got his powder. His professional career was destroyed by his habit and the selfish paranoia it brings with it and his use of EPO was undoubtedly at the extreme end of the scales. Who gives a **** if the low-life scum he was surrounded by as well as the drug dealers and prostitutes he "socialised" with had a part in his downfall - he lived the life, he paid the price. No-one forced him to sniff that **** or inject EPO, he was a paid a fortune way beyone what he was justifiably worth and blew it, quite literally.

Sometiimes you have to accept that people **** up their lives - Pantani did and the talent he had is no reason to be blind to it.
 
Denia said:
Oh no, not another "who killed Princess Diana, Kennedy, Elvis" conspiracy theory! Pantani was a cocaine addict who was willing to lie, deceive, use and abuse everyone and anyone to ensure he got his powder. His professional career was destroyed by his habit and the selfish paranoia it brings with it and his use of EPO was undoubtedly at the extreme end of the scales. Who gives a **** if the low-life scum he was surrounded by as well as the drug dealers and prostitutes he "socialised" with had a part in his downfall - he lived the life, he paid the price. No-one forced him to sniff that **** or inject EPO, he was a paid a fortune way beyone what he was justifiably worth and blew it, quite literally.

Sometiimes you have to accept that people **** up their lives - Pantani did and the talent he had is no reason to be blind to it.
I have to agree with you here Denia. Cocaine is a worthless drug that saps the good out of people who use it. Pantani was no ordinary athlete; he was fragile and strong at the same time. Ironically, if he was a rock star he would probably still be alive and be onto his 20th album. He would have had people around him who knew when to intervene in his drug taking, get him re-hab, back in the studio, back on the road, re-start the cycle. The only truth that should come out of his death is that cocaine destroys people. Forget conspiracies, if he had not been a coke addict he'd most likely still be alive today.
 
Wow Denia, not all people have compassion I know, but for someone so poorly informed to be so judgemental and full of hate is quite scary. Of one thing there is no argument, cocaine destroys the athlete and the non athlete. Pantani certainly destroyed himself, whether he had help at the very end for me is only important if there was mafia involvement. If you think Pantani the athlete, was not conspired against, then you are incorrect. That is not a sin, especially with all the effort to convince the world otherwise. I wish you a speedy recovery.
Denia said:
Oh no, not another "who killed Princess Diana, Kennedy, Elvis" conspiracy theory! Pantani was a cocaine addict who was willing to lie, deceive, use and abuse everyone and anyone to ensure he got his powder. His professional career was destroyed by his habit and the selfish paranoia it brings with it and his use of EPO was undoubtedly at the extreme end of the scales. Who gives a **** if the low-life scum he was surrounded by as well as the drug dealers and prostitutes he "socialised" with had a part in his downfall - he lived the life, he paid the price. No-one forced him to sniff that **** or inject EPO, he was a paid a fortune way beyone what he was justifiably worth and blew it, quite literally.

Sometiimes you have to accept that people **** up their lives - Pantani did and the talent he had is no reason to be blind to it.
 
Denia said:
Oh no, not another "who killed Princess Diana, Kennedy, Elvis" conspiracy theory! Pantani was a cocaine addict who was willing to lie, deceive, use and abuse everyone and anyone to ensure he got his powder. His professional career was destroyed by his habit and the selfish paranoia it brings with it and his use of EPO was undoubtedly at the extreme end of the scales. Who gives a **** if the low-life scum he was surrounded by as well as the drug dealers and prostitutes he "socialised" with had a part in his downfall - he lived the life, he paid the price. No-one forced him to sniff that **** or inject EPO, he was a paid a fortune way beyone what he was justifiably worth and blew it, quite literally.

Sometiimes you have to accept that people **** up their lives - Pantani did and the talent he had is no reason to be blind to it.
You are either completely blind to reality, too young to know anything, so far into yourself you don't notice the world around you, or lost someone close to you through drugs and can't handle it.

Go for a ride.
 
ilpirata said:
Wow Denia, not all people have compassion I know, but for someone so poorly informed to be so judgemental and full of hate is quite scary. Of one thing there is no argument, cocaine destroys the athlete and the non athlete. Pantani certainly destroyed himself, whether he had help at the very end for me is only important if there was mafia involvement. If you think Pantani the athlete, was not conspired against, then you are incorrect. That is not a sin, especially with all the effort to convince the world otherwise. I wish you a speedy recovery.
Ilpirata - I have compassion for kids that grow up in crack dens and ***** houses that have no escape from drugs - not for spoiled multimillionaire sports stars that believe the world revolves around them and their habits.

You say I am ill-informed, of which in plenty of aspects of Pantani's life of course I am, but so is pretty much everyone else. However, as you acknowledge, he destroyed himself. He had many, many opportunities to sort out his career and couldn't take them - he could not handle responsibility and trusted no-one else to do it for him. He could not race clean and he could not live clean - he was an addict and would not acknowledge it or accept help to beat it. He let down everyone close to him, family, friends, doctors, sponsors, managers and agents. Sure everyone wanted a piece of him - that's business and the price of fame and he couldn't handle it. He died alone because he pushed everyone away from him. If the mafia were involved where's the surprise? Who do you think controls drug distribution in Italy? Who do you think the low lifes who supplied him with the powder were working for further up the chain?

As I said, he lived the life, he paid the price. A sad waste of talent for sure, but deserving of sympathy, nah, save it for people who really deserve it.
 
janiejones said:
You are either completely blind to reality, too young to know anything, so far into yourself you don't notice the world around you, or lost someone close to you through drugs and can't handle it.

Go for a ride.
JanieJones - what reality I am blind to? Those that want to protect the Pantani legend and hold him up as a victim of conspiracy theories and hard-luck stories are the ones with the blinkers on.

Why, when celebrities screw up, does it always have to be someone else's fault? Why can't the fans accept that their idol manufactured his own downfall instead of seeking out excuses for his failings.
 
Matt Rendalls book alleges that Marco Pantani had at the time of his death,
millions of euro in both cash deposits and other assets such as property.

I'm curious to know if that claim is in fact true.
And if it is true, how did Marco Pantani manage to accumulate such wealth??

I was always an admirer of Marco Pantani's abilities on the bike.
I was fortunate enough to be at the 1995 TDF at Alp D'Huez and Guize Neige when he climbed sublimely.
I can vividly recall him literally blasting by us on both stages, making it look like he was pedalling on the flat. No stress, no strain, just motion. Bellisimo.
I can recall also seeing Indurain bursting up Alp D'Huez trying to minimise the time gap to the escaping Pantani.
Indurain's huge lungs clearly bellowing under a sweat soaked Banesto jersey, trying to reel in Pantani.
Epic stage.
Epic win for Pantani.
 
limerickman said:
Matt Rendalls book alleges that Marco Pantani had at the time of his death,
millions of euro in both cash deposits and other assets such as property.

I'm curious to know if that claim is in fact true.
And if it is true, how did Marco Pantani manage to accumulate such wealth??

I was always an admirer of Marco Pantani's abilities on the bike.
I was fortunate enough to be at the 1995 TDF at Alp D'Huez and Guize Neige when he climbed sublimely.
I can vividly recall him literally blasting by us on both stages, making it look like he was pedalling on the flat. No stress, no strain, just motion. Bellisimo.
I can recall also seeing Indurain bursting up Alp D'Huez trying to minimise the time gap to the escaping Pantani.
Indurain's huge lungs clearly bellowing under a sweat soaked Banesto jersey, trying to reel in Pantani.
Epic stage.
Epic win for Pantani.
Lim - My recollection is that MP was rewarded massively, through contracts and endorsements, because he was Italy`s biggest star and expected to dominate cycling for years to come. Unfortunately for him, he burnt out far too quickly as he spiralled downwards as a result of accidents, injuries and, of course, his massive coke habit. He was incredibly self-destructive and, as Rendell highlights with his account od MP`s numerous car accidents, lucky he didn't kill himself much earlier than he actually did. I defy anyone to read the latter chapters of that book and come away still believing that MP was a victim.

The 1995 Tour was of course the year when Johan Bruyneel sat on Indurain's wheel and said: "I felt like I was riding behind a motorbike for 34 kms at over 50 kph" MIG's domestique, Thomas Davy, later said that the whole Banesto team was on EPO and were systematically injected during major races.

I guess what you saw that day was a little guy on EPO out climbing a big guy on EPO - but when it came to the time trials there was no contest!
 
Denia said:
The 1995 Tour was of course the year when Johan Bruyneel sat on Indurain's wheel and said: "I felt like I was riding behind a motorbike for 34 kms at over 50 kph"
You know you are seriously juiced when The Hog is impressed.
 
Denia said:
Lim - My recollection is that MP was rewarded massively, through contracts and endorsements, because he was Italy`s biggest star and expected to dominate cycling for years to come. Unfortunately for him, he burnt out far too quickly as he spiralled downwards as a result of accidents, injuries and, of course, his massive coke habit. He was incredibly self-destructive and, as Rendell highlights with his account od MP`s numerous car accidents, lucky he didn't kill himself much earlier than he actually did. I defy anyone to read the latter chapters of that book and come away still believing that MP was a victim.

The 1995 Tour was of course the year when Johan Bruyneel sat on Indurain's wheel and said: "I felt like I was riding behind a motorbike for 34 kms at over 50 kph" MIG's domestique, Thomas Davy, later said that the whole Banesto team was on EPO and were systematically injected during major races.

I guess what you saw that day was a little guy on EPO out climbing a big guy on EPO - but when it came to the time trials there was no contest!

Hmmmmmm.
I'm sceptical about your claim about endorsements etc to explain away Pantani's millions.
Mercatone Uno were a generous sponsor for such.....but they would have to have been very generous to account for all the money MP had when he died.
It's all rather academic now, anyhow.

As to what I witnessed in 1995 : the guys could well have been doping as you say Davy alleges.
Thomas Davy was indeed part of the Bensto squad at the 95 TDF, along with one other French rider (Gerard Rue).
The rest of the team were Spaniards.
 
Yes he was self destructive and a coke addict, and that type of lifestyle has nothing redeeming about it. There are points I feel you are missing Denia, both intellectual and historical. Is it not possible that a person can be chastised and stripped to a point where they wish to escape reality if not life. Pantani as an adult is responsable for his actions. But what of the persecutors? I say they bear some responsability.
I will include some of my previous compilations on the topic, and you are welcome to check back some of my posts for more information. If you have the patience hihi.
{After years of saying how Marco had been pumping himself with epo and how even his greatest victories were put into question. The procurator who had persecuted Marco with allegations of sporting fraud had asked for extra information from the autopsy convinced that there would be irrefuteable evidence of doping. However the performing doctor (Dr. Fortuni) gave the following statement in a live interview “After all statements over the years that had been written about Pantani and doping, I had expected to see evidence of bone marrow damage, I was surprised to find that it was integral and completely normal. This means that Pantani could not have used any significant quantity nor for any significant length of time the epo.” When pressed further he says “yes it leaves irreversible signs in the bone marrow”. For two days no major Italian paper prints this story. On day three a modified statement supposedly from Dr. Fortuni ( though without the interview), appears in the big papers: “ that certainly Marco Pantani had not used epo in the last period of his life”.

The procurator was named Guariniello. He has jurisdiction in Turin. It is he who in recent times has taken a number of testimonies from soccer players of the famous Juventus club. Many have admitted the use of epo, and other elicit performance enhancers, but they were only testifying as witnesses. It is clear that a certain medical assistant will take the fall, and then later on appeal get a reduced sentence. Conversely, in 2000, Pantani is indicted for sporting fraud (for suspected use of epo in 1995) and suffers a disqualification of 6 months. Naturally on appeal, the charges are dropped because in 1995 there was no rule against high hematocrit, and it is was not a crime. But the damage in peace of mind, money, time, and reputation was done.

This Guariniello had uncovered hospital records (5 years old at the time) of Pantani with high hematocrit following the accident at the 95 Milan- Torino where he had that terrible fall that cost him a season. A race the man was not trying to win (riding in the back of the pack). Doctors for the defence provide that it is not unusual for an athlete who is dehydrated and with trauma, bone fractures, contusions, and blood loss to have high hematocrit. Guariniello is able to find other doctors who will testify the way he prefers. Who were these doctors i.e. scientific advisors? Doctors Benzi and Ceci, who were part of CONI's anti-drug commission! Naturally this obvious conflict of interest was part of the defences appeal of the first decision (Pantani found guilty of sporting fraud). At the appeal hearing (where the case was thrown out, see above) Pantani’s lawyer Cecconi makes the following statement "There are also a lot of scientific guidelines on the oscillations of hematocrit. The advisers for the prosecution considered an oscillation beyond 2-3 percent anomalous. In another court case dealing with doping (Bologna), the scientific advisers made reference to scientific studies conducted in the USA in which oscillations of up to 70 percent were explained. There are many controversial aspects and a highly qualified expert could clear them up,"

There is also the testimony of Renato Vallanzasca ,

Here is an excerpt from his autobiography. Renato during the time of the 1999 giro was serving a prison sentence. The book entitled “Flower of Evil”, came out in November 1999:

‘I was at dinner, a young man that I knew came up to me and said “Renato can I speak with you for a moment alone? Renato, you are a good guy and deserve all my respect if it wasn’t for all this ocean of a prison you have heaped on yourself. Therefore, I would like to give you a gift..If you have a few thousand to invest play it all on the Giro d’Italia. Place it on Gotti, Jalabert, o whoever you think best. I can’t tell you for sure who will win, but I am certain it will not be Pantani."

"I have just learned that for the bald one things will go badly. And the stronger he pedals in the next few days, the more you will make betting on someone else.."

In reality, even before the stop for the hematocrit, on the bald one fell some curiously bad luck: at the start of a climb his chain fell off. I said to myself, ah here is where they have sabotaged him. But it wasn’t to be, because after a minute or so he was up and riding again, and went on to win the stage in the way that is uniquely his. That day and then again in the next few days and so with the end of the giro approaching I said to myself: To make him lose they will have to shoot him.

I began to have serious doubts about the information I had received. And yet I thought it very improbable that someone would have dared to give a suggestion that could have cost me thousands of dollars. Then of course came the bombshell news: Pantani stopped for high hematocrit!



At the presentation for his book, Vallanzasca said he was willing to speak with Guariniello the judge. But he was never allowed to testify at any of the 7 legal proceedings brought against Pantani for sporting fraud.
In any event 1999 was the first year that betting on the Giro was allowed. Now you may start to think, Hmmm. Yes this is a country famous for it’s sport betting scandals. Remember Paolo Rossi. In 1981 Paolo Rossi, a tremendous young soccer talent had to serve suspension as a result of a semi- uncovered game fixing scandal. Luckily he finished his suspension and went on to lead Italy to a world cup in soccer. No thanks to the betting mafia.

When there is money to be made, who cares about a sport hero.

It is now known (but not widespread knowledge of course) that 373 million lire were bet on Pantani to win the overall classification for giro 1999, for a required payout of 605 million lire should he have won. The odds had started at 2/1 but as the bets came in, later dropped to 1.1/1. A total of 480 million lire were bet on the overall classification winner. Only 15 million were bet on Ivan Gotti (the eventual winner). A neat swing of basically a half a million dollars in the favor of the betting mafia!

What else? We have the testimony of Marco Velo and Siboni who were ex-teamates of Pantani, who declare that every number of strange phone calls were received by Mercatone team the night before the infamous blood test. Reporters and opposing team riders asking “is it true Marco is not to start tomorrow?”

According to Roberto Pregnalato the massage therapist for Mercatone Uno team, journalists that were following the giro that year, already knew the results of the blood test that would exclude Pantani from giro 99, half an hour before the blood was even drawn. They had attended a meeting of the organizers the night before.

In the nationally televised show Porta a Porta, both Velo and Pregnolato were quickly cut off mid- sentence and hustled off stage while the show went to commercial break, yes they had started to recount the events surrounding the June 5th exclusion of Marco Pantani at Giro 1999.

If it wasn’t a setup why does Marco Pantani pass the team hematocrit test the night of the 4th with a measurement of 48 and then get the same result at Dozza Imolese hospital three hours after getting the infamous out of the norm result of 52 on the 5th.

Why hasn’t anyone tried to find out why Pantani (without ever having tested positive to any antidoping control) has been so clamorously and insistently investigated, incriminated, and condemned in first degree, by so many tribunals without even a law that claims the suppositions as a crime.

Why the procurator of Florence, who ordered the blitz of giro 2001 has not been asked why in three years there was not done a DNA test on this siringe found in a room (a room rented by Mercatone Uno but not necessarily Pantani’s room) in a hotel that Pantani had abbandoned a day earlier to see if it was used by Pantani. Instead Marco pays 8 months of disqualification, and the truth is never to be officially known.

Or to Dr. Ajello (PM of the antidoping comission for CONI) why it was never asked , in one of the numerous spaces dedicated to him in the major papers, how come he resigned from his job, because he was “scandalized by the absolution of Pantani given by CAF”? As it turned out a useless absolution because not recognized by the UCI and yet he did not resign or become scandalized for the soccer players who were actually found positive by the antidoping tests and nothing done?

What about on the eve of the 2000 Sydney olympics when several Italian athletes were found with high hematocrit and growth hormone traces, but the papers only mention Pantani who was on the high end of normal.

Pantani was said to have passed the tests, but the head of CONI's medical commission, Pasquale Bellotti, said he was not satisfied in an unofficial letter which was then reported by the Italian press.

"I just don't understand that,

Marco Pantani is perfectly within the regulations regarding these tests. I have had enough of cycling being constantly targeted. It's irresponsible." said Hein Verbruggen who criticised both Bellotti and Sandro Donati, who is leading an anti-doping campaign in Italy.}



QUOTE=Denia] Unfortunately for him, he burnt out far too quickly as he spiralled downwards as a result of accidents, injuries and, of course, his massive coke habit. He was incredibly self-destructive and, as Rendell highlights with his account od MP`s numerous car accidents, lucky he didn't kill himself much earlier than he actually did. I defy anyone to read the latter chapters of that book and come away still believing that MP was a victim.
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ilpirata said:
It is now known (but not widespread knowledge of course) that 373 million lire were bet on Pantani to win the overall classification for giro 1999, for a required payout of 605 million lire should he have won. The odds had started at 2/1 but as the bets came in, later dropped to 1.1/1. A total of 480 million lire were bet on the overall classification winner. Only 15 million were bet on Ivan Gotti (the eventual winner). A neat swing of basically a half a million dollars in the favor of the betting mafia!
So it boils down to the mafia framing a guilty man.
 
Bro Deal said:
So it boils down to the mafia framing a guilty man.

I wouldn't dismiss this theory.

International sport has been under serious attack from two things : doping and betting syndicates.
Look at international cricket for example : look at how bookies corrupted it (Hansi Cronje).
Look at football (soccer) : floodlit matches being sabotages by electrical blackouts to save the thousands bet on the result of games.
Look at the execution of the Columbian soccer player, Andres Escobar, by gansters because he made a mistake in match and paid for it with his life.
Look at how Bob Woolmer's stance against corruption made him a target.
The list is endless.

The essence of sport is under attack.
I'm not trying to vindicate Pantani - but there certainly did seem to be a lot of forces who were centrally interested in how Pantani performed on the bike.
 
limerickman said:
I wouldn't dismiss this theory.
It very well might be true, but it does not explain Pantani's downward spiral. That was Pantani's own fault.