Paris-Nice Stage 1 results

[Sonarrat]

from cyclingnews.com:

Unofficial 1 Jorg Jaksche (Ger) CSC 17.19 2 David Rebellin
(Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.04 3 Erik Dekker (Ned) Rabobank 4 David
Millar (GBr) Cofidis 0.13 5 Alberto Contador (Spa) Liberty
Seguros 6 Alex Zülle (Swi) Phonak 0.14 7 Bobby Julich (USA)
CSC 0.16 8 Grischa Niermann (Ger) Rabobank 0.22 9 Jens Voigt
(Ger) CSC 10 Laurent Brochard (Fra) Ag2r 0.23 11 Frank
Vandenbroucke (Bel) Fassa Bortolo 12 Oscar Pereiro (Spa)
Phonak 13 Gorka Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel 0.24 ... 16
Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile

Evidently Isidro Nozal made a bumble, missed his start and
also delayed Dario Frigo. They ran the whole race together
as a result... I can't wait until 1 pm so I can see the OLN
tape delay.

-Sonarrat.

 

[Trg]

That explains it. I was about 2 km from the finish and saw
Frigo pass just a couple of meters ahead of Nozal. I was
wondering what happened. I though Nozal might have fallen to
arrive so late.

BTW, when their teams' cars passed just after them, they
were fighting for position more fiercely than the two
riders, honking at each other and trying to cut the other
car off. For a few seconds there, we had our own mini F1
race (or maybe just normal Paris traffic ).

Sonarrat wrote:
> from cyclingnews.com:
>
> Unofficial 1 Jorg Jaksche (Ger) CSC 17.19 2 David Rebellin
> (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.04 3 Erik Dekker (Ned) Rabobank 4
> David Millar (GBr) Cofidis 0.13 5 Alberto Contador (Spa)
> Liberty Seguros 6 Alex Zülle (Swi) Phonak 0.14 7 Bobby
> Julich (USA) CSC 0.16 8 Grischa Niermann (Ger) Rabobank
> 0.22 9 Jens Voigt (Ger) CSC 10 Laurent Brochard (Fra) Ag2r
> 0.23 11 Frank Vandenbroucke (Bel) Fassa Bortolo 12 Oscar
> Pereiro (Spa) Phonak 13 Gorka Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel
> 0.24 ... 16 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile
>
> Evidently Isidro Nozal made a bumble, missed his start and
> also delayed Dario Frigo. They ran the whole race together
> as a result... I can't wait until 1 pm so I can see the
> OLN tape delay.
>
> -Sonarrat.

 

[Sonarrat]

LOL!

Do you think they were Saiz and Ferretti?

-Sonarrat.

in article [email protected], trg at
[email protected] wrote on 3/7/04 10:47 AM:

> That explains it. I was about 2 km from the finish and saw
> Frigo pass just a couple of meters ahead of Nozal. I was
> wondering what happened. I though Nozal might have fallen
> to arrive so late.
>
> BTW, when their teams' cars passed just after them, they
> were fighting for position more fiercely than the two
> riders, honking at each other and trying to cut the other
> car off. For a few seconds there, we had our own mini F1
> race (or maybe just normal Paris traffic ).
>
>> Evidently Isidro Nozal made a bumble, missed his start
>> and also delayed Dario Frigo. They ran the whole race
>> together as a result... I can't wait until 1 pm so I can
>> see the OLN tape delay.

 

[Trg]

Sonarrat wrote:
> LOL!
>
> Do you think they were Saiz and Ferretti?
>
> -Sonarrat.

I doubt it was Saiz in the car. When Saiz is driving, you
can hear "venga venga" even before the motorcycle passes. I
had no such warning when Frigo and Nozal went by. Plus, Saiz
says more than just "venga". He is quite colorful, using a
lot of words that will get you tossed from polite Spanish
company. I always look forward to learning a few more words.

At last year's tour, France 2 spent one stage in the car
with Saiz. It was entertaining to hear him let loose like a
sailor (They didn't translate the jucier bits into French).

>
> in article [email protected], trg at
> [email protected] wrote on 3/7/04 10:47 AM:
>
>> That explains it. I was about 2 km from the finish and
>> saw Frigo pass just a couple of meters ahead of Nozal. I
>> was wondering what happened. I though Nozal might have
>> fallen to arrive so late.
>>
>> BTW, when their teams' cars passed just after them, they
>> were fighting for position more fiercely than the two
>> riders, honking at each other and trying to cut the other
>> car off. For a few seconds there, we had our own mini F1
>> race (or maybe just normal Paris traffic ).
>>
>>> Evidently Isidro Nozal made a bumble, missed his start
>>> and also delayed Dario Frigo. They ran the whole race
>>> together as a result... I can't wait until 1 pm so I can
>>> see the OLN tape delay.

 

[Robert Chung]

Sonarrat wrote:
> I can't wait until 1 pm so I can see the OLN tape delay.

You watch TT's on TV? Yikes.

 

[Robert Chung]

trg wrote:
> I was about 2 km from the finish

On the hill in Issy?

 

[Trg]

Bottom of the hill, at the corner of Ave de la Paix and Rue
Lameroux. I think it's in Vanves.

Robert Chung wrote:
> trg wrote:
>> I was about 2 km from the finish
>
> On the hill in Issy?

 

[Tom Kunich]

I would truly like to see Bobby Julich ride another
good year.

"Sonarrat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BC70A0AA.1E91%[email protected]...
> from cyclingnews.com:
>
> Unofficial 1 Jorg Jaksche (Ger) CSC 17.19 2 David Rebellin
> (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.04 3 Erik Dekker (Ned) Rabobank 4
> David Millar (GBr) Cofidis 0.13 5 Alberto Contador (Spa)
> Liberty Seguros 6 Alex Zülle (Swi) Phonak 0.14 7 Bobby
> Julich (USA) CSC 0.16 8 Grischa Niermann (Ger) Rabobank
> 0.22 9 Jens Voigt (Ger) CSC 10 Laurent Brochard (Fra) Ag2r
> 0.23 11 Frank Vandenbroucke (Bel) Fassa Bortolo 12 Oscar
> Pereiro (Spa) Phonak 13 Gorka Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel
> 0.24 ... 16 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile
>
> Evidently Isidro Nozal made a bumble, missed his start and
> also delayed Dario Frigo. They ran the whole race together
> as a result... I can't wait until 1 pm so I can see the
> OLN tape delay.
>
> -Sonarrat.

 

[Jmatt]

Sonarrat <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<BC70A0AA.1E91%[email protected]>...
> from cyclingnews.com:
>
> Unofficial 1 Jorg Jaksche (Ger) CSC 17.19 2 David Rebellin
> (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.04 3 Erik Dekker (Ned) Rabobank

Nice to see Dekker with good form.

JMatt

 

[Trg]

Tom Kunich wrote:
> I would truly like to see Bobby Julich ride another
> good year.
>

I have a feeling you may get your wish. He seems very happy
at CSC. http://www.team-csc.com/ny_index.asp?n_id=50 .

When he rode past me today, he was really hitting it. It's
funny, but in a ITT you can often tell who's got a good
time going by how they look when they go past. That and by
how blurry the photo is. Judging by the photo I took, he
was flying

 

[Sonarrat]

in article [email protected], JMatt at
[email protected] wrote on 3/7/04 3:20 PM:

> Sonarrat <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<BC70A0AA.1E91%[email protected]>...
>> from cyclingnews.com:
>>
>> Unofficial 1 Jorg Jaksche (Ger) CSC 17.19 2 David
>> Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.04 3 Erik Dekker (Ned)
>> Rabobank
>
> Nice to see Dekker with good form.

Nice indeed, and same goes for Julich, Vandenbroucke,
Leipheimer, and a few others who had fallen off their
best. Also nice to see a new face in the top ten in the
form of Liberty Seguros' Alberto Contador, who is 21 years
old! I'm almost exactly a year younger than him; if I
busted my ass for the next year, I'd be absolutely elated
to land where he is.

Botero is still a question mark, but at least he is racing.

As for Jaksche, what can I say? Perhaps he will improve on
last year's 10th place in the TdF.

-Sonarrat.

 

[Sonarrat]

in article BC7102D2.1F8C%[email protected], Sonarrat at
[email protected] wrote on 3/7/04 4:48 PM:

> As for Jaksche, what can I say? Perhaps he will improve on
> last year's 10th place in the TdF.

17th... I meant 17th.

-Sonarrat.

 

[Dan Connelly]

Sonarrat wrot
> Nice indeed, and same goes for Julich,
> Vandenbroucke, Leipheimer, and a few others who had
> fallen off their best.

Leipheimer was hoping to do better. However, from the CN
article, it seems he may have been a bit scared of the wet
roads more than lacking raw fitness. He obviously needs to
prove himself.

Dan

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <3%[email protected]>,
Dan Connelly <djconnel@i_e_e_e._o_r_g> wrote:

> Sonarrat wrot
> > Nice indeed, and same goes for Julich,
> > Vandenbroucke, Leipheimer, and a few others who had
> > fallen off their best.
>
> Leipheimer was hoping to do better. However, from the CN
> article, it seems he may have been a bit scared of the wet
> roads more than lacking raw fitness. He obviously needs to
> prove himself.
>
> Dan

It did seem that a lot of guys were being extra cautious
because of the conditions. I hope that Levi can make up
the time deficit. I'd like to see him do well this year.

--
tanx, Howard

Q: Why did the metalhead cross the road?
R: Because he's a gullible moron who'll buy
anything with a skull on it.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[Robert Chung]

Dan Connelly wrote:
> However, from the CN article, it seems he may have been a
> bit scared of the wet roads more than lacking raw fitness.

I'd like to know what the start order vs. finishing time
relationship was. The weather was quite squall-like all
day long. It was dryish at the beginning and end, and it
was alternately sunny, raining, and hailing all through
the middle.

 

[Robert Chung]

Robert Chung wrote:
>
> I'd like to know what the start order vs. finishing time
> relationship was. The weather was quite squall-like all
> day long. It was dryish at the beginning and end, and it
> was alternately sunny, raining, and hailing all through
> the middle.

Just to clarify, that wasn't meant as a criticism of the
results, or an excuse for any rider -- it was simply to say
that one shouldn't try to divine a rider's fitness (or lack
thereof) from small differences in time on this stage.

 

[Van Hoorebeeck]

Robert Chung schreef:

> I'd like to know what the start order vs. finishing time
> relationship was. The weather was quite squall-like all
> day long. It was dryish at the beginning and end, and it
> was alternately sunny, raining, and hailing all through
> the middle.

VDB SUFFERED MOST I read. Well maybe that's just
regenerating the hype, ha.

 

[Kenny]

"Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I would truly like to see Bobby Julich ride another
> good year.
>
I wouldn't believe that. Wait until the first mountain
stage.

 

[Wayne Pein]

I'm certainly glad OLN is broadcasting the race, but that
was some shallow coverage, about like typical track and
field coverage.

I would love to have seen the real action when the big
split occured.

I suppose somebody figured not much was going to happen
until the finish, expecting a sprint, and decided that
scarce coverage dollars shouldn't be spent covering the
usual boring leadup.

Wayne

 

[Van Hoorebeeck]

Wayne Pein schreef:

> II suppose somebody figured not much was going to happen
> until the finish, expecting a sprint, and decided that
> scarce coverage dollars shouldn't be spent covering the
> usual boring leadup.
>

Since they just buy the images rights from a French chain,
they don't have to anticipate of expect anything They
probably simply have no clue about what's interesting. I saw
the split on Flemish TV journal.

I have heard this remark too about English language Le Tour
of France videos, showing a soloist to the finish for the
last kms, but nothing of the race plot. Funny stuff.