Pedal Advice



Bleve said:
oely wrote:
> Bleve Wrote:
> > TimC wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmm, your luck/skill better than my luck/skill. I've pulled out
> > > reasonably often (once or twice when they aren't worn, even!) Of
> > > course when they're worn, you expect that, and I do tend to keep

> > using
> > > them until there's only a stump left.

> >
> > This is one of the advantages of the SPD-SL cleats - they don't start
> > to wear the important bit out until the little wearpads are worn
> > through, which means you get a very easy visual clue as to when
> > they're
> > just about due to be replaced. I get around 6 months or so out of a
> > pair of cleats and I'm averaging around 12,000km every 6 months at the
> > moment. Metal cleats don't have this problem, of course.

>
> Why is it that Look cant create a cleat similiar?



Patent? "not invented here" syndrome? They don't think it's a
problem?
Write to them and ask, or just get some pedals/cleats that you can walk
in, if it's important to you!

Im merely curious, as ive heard many complain about it. Its not important enough for me to change pedals/cleats or bother writing in. Im happy enough with them.
 
I've only had looks so for what its worth.

In 12 years I've had 6 pairs of looks and only got rid of one to date -
due to wear on the foot bed that made them looser than I liked but not
unserviceable

Serviceability - Seems to be a moot point I've never had any of them
apart for any servicing reason.
Cleats - the older ones could get a squeak on occasionally, usually
after too much walking on smooth surfaces that buff the cleat. The
keo(teflon) version seems to eliminate this problem
Lifespan - depends on usage, walking and stopping is what wears them
out, depends on your style
Clearance - yes they may have slightly less clearance but they are
forgiving when they touch, almost all of mine have grinds on the sides
but they hit the ground with a smooth flat surface parallel to the
ground which seems less likely to dig in.
Wear indication - they have the dots to tell you when to replace them,
but I'm lazy I know its time to replace when they break off one of the
contact surfaces, that said I will premptively replace at times prior
to racing - the worn ones get passed on to my commuter shoes. I always
have a spare pair anyway.
Long rides - wear very stiff shoes anyway but the large contact area
seems to help. Long means regular 180k+ rides.
Black vs Red cleats - only had 1 pair of black cleats ever and just
didn't get used to it.
 
On 2006-04-24, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Now, if someone can just design gears with an emergency "first gear.
> now!!!" setting.....
>
> Zebee
> - caught in too high a gear at a roundabout once too often.


Sprint training!

--
TimC
I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under
stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when
under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself
when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat
 
PHP:
Gags said:
Only one week to go till I get this stinkin' (literally) cast off my arm and
I will finally get to ride the new roadie. When I got it there were SPD
pedals on it which is fine as I have one set of road shoes with SPD cleats
but I am thinking about upgrading the pedals and buying a new pair of shoes
as well.

I was looking at the Exustar shoes from www.torpedo7.com that I think Blah
has got but unfortunately they only stock up to a 47 which is bad news for
me as I need a 48 (in Shimano and Specialized shoes anyway). I currently
have the old style Look pedals on my old roadie and SPDs on my mtbs and
fixie (haven't had any experience with any other pedal systems).

Looking for feedback, general comments, advice on which way to go with new
pedals and shoes......here is the user specification:

I don't want pedals that squeak.
I don't want to spend a fortune (scored the bike for $585 and don't want to
double its price).
Not too concerned with weight.
Don't have any problems with ordering from OS.

Gags
PHP:

I'm loving the Look Keo's. No squeks, quite a low stack height for the style of pedal and good clearance too. Even though smaller than previous look incarnations, they claim to have a greater contact surface area. They're light. And cleats are cheap on PBK. Always cheap.
 
In aus.bicycle on Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:09:39 GMT
TimC <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2006-04-24, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> Now, if someone can just design gears with an emergency "first gear.
>> now!!!" setting.....
>>
>> Zebee
>> - caught in too high a gear at a roundabout once too often.

>
> Sprint training!


Go on, do it with your bum still on the seat....


Zebee
 
On 2006-04-24, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> In aus.bicycle on Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:09:39 GMT
> TimC <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 2006-04-24, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
>> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>>> Now, if someone can just design gears with an emergency "first gear.
>>> now!!!" setting.....
>>>
>>> Zebee
>>> - caught in too high a gear at a roundabout once too often.

>>
>> Sprint training!

>
> Go on, do it with your bum still on the seat....


I still manage to drag off the RX6s sometimes just sitting down. :)

--
TimC
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-- Attributed to Benjamin Franklin, 1760
 
Gags wrote:

> I was looking at the Exustar shoes from www.torpedo7.com that I think Blah
> has got but unfortunately they only stock up to a 47 which is bad news for
> me as I need a 48 (in Shimano and Specialized shoes anyway). I currently
> have the old style Look pedals on my old roadie and SPDs on my mtbs and
> fixie (haven't had any experience with any other pedal systems).


If you're in Perth, they still have those ridiculously cheap Pearl
Izumi Vipers (I got a pair in size 48) that I posted about a few weeks
ago. These are top of the line shoes, very strong, very light and very
comfortable. They weren't all that much more expensive than a bottom
of the line Specialised.

See this thread for details:
http://groups.google.com/group/aus....?q=pearl+izumi+vipers&rnum=1#1bcc7415b0595ec2

And the same search found this one, which had some remarkably prophetic
comments from SteveA:
http://groups.google.com/group/aus....?q=pearl+izumi+vipers&rnum=2#3927eb47d7417cb5

If the links don't work, just do a Google Groups search for "Pearl
Izumi Vipers" and you'll find both threads.

Travis
 
Bleve wrote:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>
>>In aus.bicycle on Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:15:41 +1000
>>flyingdutch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>'beaters, 'beaters, 'beaters, 'beaters, 'beaters, 'beaters... :D
>>>(PS you can get cleats for beaters for any bolthole pattern too)
>>>

>>
>>so... explain to us clueless ones what the differences in pedals are.
>>
>>What makes one better than another?

>
>
> What makes a ute better than a ducati? Horses for courses.


You can carry a Ducati in a ute but not vice versa. In this respect
and in some (most) accidents and occasionally for a few moments in
pouring rain a ute is indeed superior to a Ducati.

And only on those occasions !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave
 
dave wrote:
> Bleve wrote:
>
>>Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>

<Snipped>
>>
>>What makes a ute better than a ducati? Horses for courses.

>
>
> You can carry a Ducati in a ute but not vice versa. In this respect
> and in some (most) accidents and occasionally for a few moments in
> pouring rain a ute is indeed superior to a Ducati.
>
> And only on those occasions !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Dave


You possibly could if you had one of these..

http://www.comingthrough.se/

image only
http://www.comingthrough.se/images/bkg1.jpg

PeteB. ;-)
 
Skewer wrote:
>
> dave wrote:
>
>> Bleve wrote:
>>
>>> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>>

> <Snipped>
>
>>>
>>> What makes a ute better than a ducati? Horses for courses.

>>
>>
>>
>> You can carry a Ducati in a ute but not vice versa. In this respect
>> and in some (most) accidents and occasionally for a few moments in
>> pouring rain a ute is indeed superior to a Ducati.
>>
>> And only on those occasions !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Dave

>
>
> You possibly could if you had one of these..
>
> http://www.comingthrough.se/
>
> image only
> http://www.comingthrough.se/images/bkg1.jpg
>
> PeteB. ;-)


Ok then only 2 areas are left. Utes are superior in accidents (which
explains much) And in pouring rain.
 
"Zebee Johnstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In aus.bicycle on 23 Apr 2006 20:06:33 -0700
> Bleve <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Typically these pedals are not deigned for sustained high-power use -
>> as the cleat and pedal is small, it concentrates a lot of pressure on
>> your foot causing pain, they also allow a fair amount of roll which
>> isn't ideal for sprinting.

>
> OK, all that makes sense. My MTB pedals allow a lot of roll and are
> big and flat, plus having cleat only one side and the other usable
> with any old shoe.
>
> All excellent features for a big heavy commuter bike! I have pondered
> changing for pedals with cleat either side, but I find that I use the
> non-cleat side in really tight slow turns when I've unclipped one side
> but need a bit of pedalling and don't want to clip in again.
>
> Now, if someone can just design gears with an emergency "first gear.
> now!!!" setting.....
>
> Zebee
> - caught in too high a gear at a roundabout once too often.


They have. They're called hub gears.
 
On 2006-04-24, Skewer (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> http://www.comingthrough.se/images/bkg1.jpg


Er, wouldn't want to have to brake hard!


So sleepy. Good ride, Rooman!

--
TimC
Stapp's (of Murphy's law fame) Law: the universal aptitude for
ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle.
 
TimC said:
On 2006-04-24, Skewer (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> http://www.comingthrough.se/images/bkg1.jpg


Er, wouldn't want to have to brake hard!


So sleepy. Good ride, Rooman!

--
TimC
Stapp's (of Murphy's law fame) Law: the universal aptitude for
ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle.
replace motor bike with bicycle and send image to media with caption

"when elephants go to die , or the oil runs out(whichever comes first)"

**********************************************

Thanks Tim, great day for a spin and good sleep inducing workout...cheers

Roo
 
Andrew Price wrote:
<snip>
> At the risk of being labelled a contrarian and burnt as a heretic, I like
> Keywins (old simple but good NZ pedal) as a road pedal.
>
> Light, simple, very flat and not expensive to replace cleats or rebuild them
> when they wear.
>
> Souce here : http://www.keywin.com/crm.htm
>
> Reviews here: http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/?id=2002/letters/keywin

<snip>

My mates would agree there, several of them have changed from the Look
Keos to these pedals.

I like my Miche pedals on my road bike, because they make the best noise
ever when I click in and are then silent...

But I use SPD-SL pedals for commuting because I can walk around on the
rubberised cleats and not worry about wear and tear.

I might get around to trying 'beaters some day, but I'm happy enough
with what I've got at the moment.

Tam