Pedal Shame

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  1. David

    David Guest

    I know this sounds really lame and the only thing I can say as an excuse is that I'm a beginner.

    I brought some new pedals and I'm trying to remove the old pedals with much sucess. Can anyone give
    any hints or is the a website I can look at. I must stress I have an adjustable spanner and wd40.

    help

    David
     
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  2. Tony W

    Tony W Guest

    "david" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I know this sounds really lame and the only thing I can say as an excuse is that I'm a beginner.
    >
    > I brought some new pedals and I'm trying to remove the old pedals with much sucess. Can anyone
    > give any hints or is the a website I can look at. I must stress I have an adjustable spanner
    > and wd40.

    If you are having much success why do you need help?

    One of them is threaded the 'wrong' way.

    See http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_p.html#pedal

    T
     
  3. Bill

    Bill Guest

    david <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I know this sounds really lame and the only thing I can say as an excuse is that I'm a beginner.
    >
    > I brought some new pedals and I'm trying to remove the old pedals with much sucess. Can anyone
    > give any hints or is the a website I can look at. I must stress I have an adjustable spanner
    > and wd40.

    One is right handed thread and one is left handed thread. I have done the job many times and without
    going out and looking at the bike I can't tell you which is which!

    They can be tight if they've been on a long time. Once you are sure you are turning them the right
    way, support the crank on a block of wood and just give your spanner a good smack with a hammer, or
    slip a length of tubing over the spanner to increase torque.

    Bill
     
  4. Alex Graham

    Alex Graham Guest

    david wrote:

    > I brought some new pedals and I'm trying to remove the old pedals with much sucess. Can anyone
    > give any hints or is the a website I can look at. I must stress I have an adjustable spanner
    > and wd40.

    Depending on how hard they are screwed in, you may well not be able to get them off with an
    adjustable. Try a non adjustable 15mm spanner, maybe with a pole over it to get more leverage. You
    may however open up the end of the spanner this way esp if its a cheap one.

    If you cant get them off, ride to your local bike shop and ask to borrow their pedal spanner for 5
    minutes and use that. It will be a big fat thing and that will work

    Remember the left hand pedal is left hand thread! (turn clockwise to unscrew). The way to remember
    it is like this:

    Stand on the side of the bike you want to de-pedal. Move the crank so its at 3 oclock (towards the
    front wheel). Place the spanner on the pedal axle so the spanner is pointing towards the back wheel
    and slightly upwards. Then hold the front brake on, lean against a wall with your other hand, and
    stand on the spanner.

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  5. Pete Biggs

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    david wrote:
    > I know this sounds really lame and the only thing I can say as an excuse is that I'm a beginner.

    Don't worry, pedals can sometimes be extremely hard for anyone to remove......

    > I brought some new pedals and I'm trying to remove the old pedals with much sucess. Can anyone
    > give any hints or is the a website I can look at. I must stress I have an adjustable spanner
    > and wd40.

    Right pedal undoes anti-clockwise, left clockwise ("Right is right, left is wrong"). Make sure
    spanner fits properly and isn't too wide.

    If muscle power isn't working, try a hammer (pref club hammer or heavy mallet) on the end of
    spanner. This shock treatment can do the job nicely. If that fails, try a longer/better spanner or
    more force (don't be afraid to give it some huge welly but be careful of slippage: put chain on big
    ring). If still no joy, heating the crank with blow torch or stove will expand the aluminium crank
    more than the pedal axle thus hopefully making the thread looser.

    Make sure pedal threads are well greased for the next time.

    ~PB
     
  6. On Fri, 16 May 2003 17:13:18 +0000 (UTC), Alex Graham <[email protected]> in
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Stand on the side of the bike you want to de-pedal. Move the crank so its at 3 oclock (towards the
    >front wheel). Place the spanner on the

    9 O'Clock surely?

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  7. Alex Graham

    Alex Graham Guest

    Richard Bates wrote:

    > 9 O'Clock surely?

    hehe

    If you're standing on the left hand side of the bike, yes :) I was standing on the right hand side
    of an imaginary bike in my mind when I wrote all that

    ;o)

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  8. In message <[email protected]>, Pete Biggs
    <pLime{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> writes
    >Right is right, left is wrong

    Not if you're left-handed. "Left is write, right is wrong."
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  9. Msa

    Msa Guest

    Then hold the front brake on, lean against a wall with
    > your other hand,

    The spanner will then slip and you will fall arse over tit!!!!!!!!!!

    :)

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  10. Msa

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    Alex Graham <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > david wrote:
    >
    > > I brought some new pedals and I'm trying to remove the old pedals with much sucess. Can anyone
    > > give any hints or is the a website I can look at. I must stress I have an adjustable spanner
    > > and wd40.
    >
    > Depending on how hard they are screwed in, you may well not be able to get them off with an
    > adjustable. Try a non adjustable 15mm spanner, maybe with a pole over it to get more leverage. You
    > may however open up the end of the spanner this way esp if its a cheap one.
    >
    > If you cant get them off, ride to your local bike shop and ask to borrow their pedal spanner for 5
    > minutes and use that. It will be a big fat thing and that will work
    >
    > Remember the left hand pedal is left hand thread! (turn clockwise to unscrew). The way to remember
    > it is like this:
    >
    > Stand on the side of the bike you want to de-pedal. Move the crank so its at 3 oclock (towards the
    > front wheel). Place the spanner on the pedal axle so the spanner is pointing towards the back
    > wheel and slightly upwards. Then hold the front brake on, lean against a wall with your other
    > hand, and stand on the spanner.
    >
    > --
    > -Alex
    >
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    > [email protected] www.westerleycycling.org.uk http://alexpg.ath.cx:3353/cycling.php
    > ----------------------------------
    >

    Actually, well done on this description Alex. I've been maintaining bikes for years and can never
    remember which way to turn the damn thing. I reckon I can remember this technique for next time.
    Hang on, was it 6pm or 8:15pm?

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  11. Will Plummer

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    I`ve sometimes found that really tough ones are best removed by clamping the crank in a sturdy vice
    (well padded, natch) and using a spanner on one side and a hex driver in a big torque wrench on the
    other in a sort of "push one, pull the other" type motion.

    A good squirt of WD40 will help - more so if you can leave it over night (wrap it in plastic
    bag) to soak.

    As above a smear of grease on reassembly is a good idea
     
  12. Msa

    Msa Guest

    Alex Graham <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Richard Bates wrote:
    >
    > > 9 O'Clock surely?
    >
    > hehe
    >
    > If you're standing on the left hand side of the bike, yes :) I was standing on the right hand side
    > of an imaginary bike in my mind when I wrote all that
    >
    > ;o)
    >
    > --
    > -Alex
    >
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    > ----------------------------------
    >

    Does it really make a difference what time he does it?

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  13. Tony Raven

    Tony Raven Guest

    In news:[email protected], Bill <[email protected]> typed:
    >
    > They can be tight if they've been on a long time. Once you are sure you are turning them the right
    > way, support the crank on a block of wood and just give your spanner a good smack with a hammer,
    > or slip a length of tubing over the spanner to increase torque.
    >

    If it an aluminium crank and steel pedal it can be corroded in. Much easier to play a blow torch on
    crank until it sizzles if you spit on it and then it will undo easily. Just make sure you don't burn
    yourself on the hot crank and pedal

    Tony

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  14. Tony Raven

    Tony Raven Guest

    In news:[email protected], MSA <[email protected]> typed:
    >
    > Actually, well done on this description Alex. I've been maintaining bikes for years and can never
    > remember which way to turn the damn thing. I reckon I can remember this technique for next time.

    The way I remember it is "back off" ie in the position you would normally work, crank vertically up,
    spanner sticking up you turn the spanner back to get the pedal off. Works for both sides.

    Tony

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  15. Pete Biggs

    Pete Biggs Guest

    MSA wrote:

    > Then hold the front brake on, lean against a wall with
    >> your other hand,
    >
    > The spanner will then slip and you will fall arse over tit!!!!!!!!!!

    Left or right?

    ~PB
     
  16. Peter Grange

    Peter Grange Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, david <[email protected]> writes
    >I know this sounds really lame and the only thing I can say as an excuse is that I'm a beginner.
    >
    >I brought some new pedals and I'm trying to remove the old pedals with much sucess. Can anyone give
    >any hints or is the a website I can look at. I must stress I have an adjustable spanner and wd40.
    >
    >help
    >
    >David
    So long as you are standing on the same side of the bike as the pedal, and the bike is standing on
    the wheels, and your hand holding the spanner is above the pedal (all of which are the 'normal'
    stance), then the hand holding the spanner goes towards the back of the bike to unscrew. Beware of
    the spanner slipping, resulting in fist punching down onto the chainwheel. Have scars to remind me
    of that. Usually an adjustable spanner is too wide, you may need a thinner one. 15mm from memory,
    but not sure.
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  17. Pete Biggs

    Pete Biggs Guest

  18. Eatmorepies

    Eatmorepies Guest

    > Remember the left hand pedal is left hand thread! (turn clockwise to unscrew). The way to remember
    > it is like this:
    >
    > Stand on the side of the bike you want to de-pedal. Move the crank so its at 3 oclock (towards the
    > front wheel). Place the spanner on the pedal axle so the spanner is pointing towards the back
    > wheel and slightly upwards. Then hold the front brake on, lean against a wall with your other
    > hand, and stand on the spanner.
    >
    I remember "right is right".

    John
     
  19. David

    David Guest

    On Fri, 16 May 2003 17:51:25 +0100, david <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I know this sounds really lame and the only thing I can say as an excuse is that I'm a beginner.
    >
    >I brought some new pedals and I'm trying to remove the old pedals with much sucess. Can anyone give
    >any hints or is the a website I can look at. I must stress I have an adjustable spanner and wd40.
    >
    >help
    >
    >David

    I would like to thank everyone for the suggestions. With a little manpower, a 15mm (non adjustable)
    spanner, http://www.parktool.com/, and wd40 I managed to changed and it fit my new SPD pedals. I
    haven't manged to get the cleats to fit in the pedals yet but I'm sure I will work it out.

    Once again thanks to everyone.

    David
     
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