Pedaling **** Stars!!!



Well, I think it's false to say that being a pornstar makes you a sexual predator. However, there is some degree of degeneration regarding his job, enough for me to believe he shouldn't be coaching kids. Just my two cents.
 
I never said he is a child predator. I said he could be. And that I didn't think it was appropriate for him to be coaching kids. If he was coaching adults, I wouldn't have even posted. I couldn't give a **** what he does in his spare time. Thats his business. However as a society we all have a responsibility to look out for our kids. The fact that this guy is involved in the adult entertainment industry I agree does not automatically make him a predator, but it is one of those little indicators like a little red flag. I think it would be prudent to investigate him a little further just to be sure.

I can see the headlines now. The USCF knew this coach was an adult industry worker charged with the responsibility of looking after kids. The USCF did nothing in terms of having his background checked out. Now that x number of victims have come forward with complaints about him. The USCF has moved to.....


Anyone want their kids looked after by this guy. No thanks..
 
sooray02 said:
did he really use wikipedia.org as his reference? that really shows something.

What's wrong with Wikipedia? Good place especially for general information.
 
keydates said:
What's wrong with Wikipedia? Good place especially for general information.

true.. also with lots of errors and bad info. it's getting better though i hear.
 
HowardSteele said:
Ok so philmcb vbmenu_register("postmenu_2954039", true); might have posted at the cafe instead of road racing forum, THE DUDE mentioned has quite a formidable resume, where he gets the time to do all of that is beyond me.
The person I think it is happens to be far more involved in professional cycling than anyone one in this forum...that is unless one of you took a medal in the Pan Am Games, was on the Olympic team, coached by Eddie B, layed off for 12 years then took a bronze in the Nationals 30+ class, and as I mentioned is a Elite class USCF Cycling Coach - Junior Catagory (14-18). You guys might belong at the cafe, but not this guy.:D

BTW Why do you have to post my profile? Keep it up and I'll really give you something to see.:eek:
 
MPCRUSHER said:
I never said he is a child predator. I said he could be. And that I didn't think it was appropriate for him to be coaching kids. If he was coaching adults, I wouldn't have even posted. I couldn't give a **** what he does in his spare time. Thats his business. However as a society we all have a responsibility to look out for our kids. The fact that this guy is involved in the adult entertainment industry I agree does not automatically make him a predator, but it is one of those little indicators like a little red flag. I think it would be prudent to investigate him a little further just to be sure.

I can see the headlines now. The USCF knew this coach was an adult industry worker charged with the responsibility of looking after kids. The USCF did nothing in terms of having his background checked out. Now that x number of victims have come forward with complaints about him. The USCF has moved to.....


Anyone want their kids looked after by this guy. No thanks..
Where you send your kids to be coached is your business but don't expect the USCF to take action against every instructor with less than a squeaky-clean image. This guy is engaging in a perfectly legal activity and should not be subject to investigation just because his activities make you uncomfortable.
 
MPCRUSHER said:
...If he was coaching adults, I wouldn't have even posted. I couldn't give a **** what he does in his spare time. Thats his business. However as a society we all have a responsibility to look out for our kids. The fact that this guy is involved in the adult entertainment industry I agree does not automatically make him a predator, but it is one of those little indicators like a little red flag. I think it would be prudent to investigate him a little further just to be sure.

I can see the headlines now. The USCF knew this coach was an adult industry worker charged with the responsibility of looking after kids. The USCF did nothing in terms of having his background checked out. Now that x number of victims have come forward with complaints about him. The USCF has moved to.....
Unfortunately, you've got a few things a bit twisted. That's why I bolded, and I appologize for that... I know it's rude.

But.....

Let's see...How do I put this? Just the facts are best I suppose. Ok. Here goes...

Actually, the USCF Coaching is his spare time gig. He's well into the upper 6 figures a year in ****, which is quite a bit for a male adult film actor... And female performers make TONS more male performers. Oh... and before you start with the **** about "you must be gay... you seem to know a little too much about... blahh, blahh, blahh". Yeah. Well I live about 2 miles from Chatsworth, CA which is the **** capital of the US, for what that's worth. The point is simple... EVERYBODY here knows about the **** industry.

And, no, being in the adult entertainment industry doesn't "automatically make him a predator". REALITY CHECK: Can you name one child molester who was an adult film actor or actress? Actually, the predator is usually the people you least expect... you know, the neighbor (church going, of course), the high school teacher, etc... Someone ought to look up how many registered sex offenders are **** actors. I bet the results would be interesting.

Background check? They didn't have to. This guy has a cycling record of wins and near wins as long as your arm. He started in BMX when he was a kid, got bored after winning literally dozens of trophys, then bought a road bike. God... Road, criterium, Time Trial, track, mountain. It's ridiculous. So the USCF definitely knows about his creditals... just maybe not the one's that got him into ****.
 
kuan said:
Under Self Taught, he has "adult film performer." :) Now how hard can it be? Do most of us need some kind of manual and instructor?

"Now here's how you insert the..."

I wonder if he has anything to say about cutout saddles.
Hmmm....strangly enough...from what I've heard, it's actually incredibly difficult to "perform" in the presence of countess cast, crew, directors, cameramen, grips, the catering guys... etc. :(

I guess alot of guys think pretty that it's a no brainer, and some of them get the golden opportunity, so to speak, only to find the true meaning of "Fear Factor" and the accompanying "Shrinkage Factor"....

But don't ask me, I wouldn't know one way or the other.

To me, the requirements are pretty scarey. Put it this way... how good do you think you'd be at doing a "century" in the sack...so to speak, with a complete stranger.

With lots of sprinting, climbing, a few brief downhills... then, all of a sudden,
Oh, ****!!! A Flat!!. you fix it... ****!!, another!!... you fix that one...Now, you still have twenty miles to go and you feel the "bonk" catching up with you... and they're forcing you to pull from the front ALL of the time.... etc.

So who said this forum was starting to loose it's focus on racing?
 
philmcb said:
Can you name one child molester who was an adult film actor or actress? QUOTE]

John Holmes sacked up with a 15 year old while still married and the young girl moved into his house that he shared wth his wife. But he was a complete weirdo from what I have read.

Anyway what he does in his spare time is his business. He is not breaking any laws.

Personaly I think that him being a elite level coach means he is monitored much more (by USCF, competitors, etc.) than the local small town coach
 
BottleCage said:
philmcb said:
Can you name one child molester who was an adult film actor or actress? QUOTE]

John Holmes sacked up with a 15 year old while still married and the young girl moved into his house that he shared wth his wife. But he was a complete weirdo from what I have read.

Anyway what he does in his spare time is his business. He is not breaking any laws.

Personaly I think that him being a elite level coach means he is monitored much more (by USCF, competitors, etc.) than the local small town coach
I bow before you... you are absolutely correct.

Not only did he shack up with her, he also pimped her for drugs and money.

Regarding our mystery rider... in certain states he is breaking the law!!!
 
So your totally comfortable with this guy looking after your kids. Well good on you. Personally I believe the average mom (mum) and dad out there would not be comfortable with this guy looking after their kids.

I don't know what the laws are in the US but here in Oz any adult involved in the coaching and supervising of children must undergo a criminal check. This unfortunately has been the result of a number of sporting coaches being accused and in some cases charged with indecent behaviour.


Actually it is a myth that most perpatrators of this type of crime are teachers and child care workers and the " ones you least expect " . These cases tend to get a lot of media scrutiny because of the outrage they generate in the community due to the massive breach of trust assocciated with them. We can all relate directly with these incidents. The reality is, that these types of crimes are more often than not committed by those with a history of abuse and neglect in the family, who have had limited education and who have poor prospects of steady employment.

I acknowledge that the vast majority of sexual abuse on children occurs within the family, usually an uncle or friend.

To say that the USCF does not have any responsibilty with regards to checking out the character of one of it's coaches involved with minors, is crazy. If this guy only coaches adults fine. But he doesn't. The USCF must in my opinion ensure that anyone involved in the supervision of minors is properly screened. To say that this guys credentials speak for themselves is missing the point totally.

I tell you what. tell us the name of the guy. I will email the USCF and ask them what they think about one of their juvenille coaches being a practicing **** star. Should be an interesting response.
 
MPCRUSHER said:
I personally believe it is totally inapropriate for someone involved in this sort of work be trusted with young boys or girls of that age.
You're welcome to your personal belief but I don't think a complaint to the proffessional body is in order. Celibacy is hardly a requirement of the job and just because this guy is good enough at it to get paid shouldn't prevent him from supporting a group of kids.

One case of a **** star getting involved with a minor is hardly statistically relevant. No one would make that connection.

It is time to accept the fact that sex is a fun and acceptable passtime rather than something bad that you should hide and might get fired for.
 
PartisanRanger said:
Where you send your kids to be coached is your business but don't expect the USCF to take action against every instructor with less than a squeaky-clean image. This guy is engaging in a perfectly legal activity and should not be subject to investigation just because his activities make you uncomfortable.

Exactly. I think your kid has a better chance of being molested by a priest than a **** star.
 
capwater said:
Exactly. I think your kid has a better chance of being molested by a priest than a **** star.

I hope there aren't any priests coaching junior's cycling!
 
I smell some hipocresy on this thread. Before everyone flames me, we all have watched ****, we know about it we loved it during our teenage-college years. But the fact is that deep inside our minds we all know there is something wrong about it, see it this way, would you like to see your daughter dropping out of college to make a "career" as a **** star?? "Bye daddy, gotta go now, tomorrow I have to work on this project you know, 12 inch dicks, three guys, two hours long scene ..so I have to get some rest tonight...see you next week " I don't care how open minded you guys pretend to be, if you are family oriented you'll expect your kids to do something more decent.

Back to the topic, as an elite junior cyclist I had a great guy coaching me no child molester-priest nor single pornstar kind of guy. And I could put a lot of money that 99% of you guys if you could choose between the pornstar, the priest or my former coach you will go with family guy type. Just because pornstar could go "Hey little Johnny, I was watching you in the showers, you have some little talent down there, considering you are not going anywhere in crit racing and you suck big time at school...you should think about a career in adult film industry, free ***** and a check, what do you say? Here is my business card, give me a call next month when you turn 18..have a nice day eat some protein and stretch.." :p
 
**** Star, that's the ultimate job. No slams against it, gotta give a bro credit if he can get paid for banging chicks.
 
capwater said:
**** Star, that's the ultimate job. No slams against it, gotta give a bro credit if he can get paid for banging chicks.
You sound like someone who is frustrated at having to pay for the only sex they can get.

I was just wondering if you have a daughter maybe around 18 that I can bang. We can video tape it and sell it. Ive got heap a cool moves Id love to show her. She will love it. Dont worry Im a cyclist who has raced heaps. Ive got excellent credentials. Ill look after her no worries

Never know it could be the opening of a great new career for her

What do you say bro?
 
MPCRUSHER said:
"...I was just wondering if you have a daughter maybe around 18 that I can bang. We can video tape it and sell it. Ive got heap a cool moves Id love to show her. She will love it. Dont worry Im a cyclist who has raced heaps. Ive got excellent credentials. Ill look after her no worries

Never know it could be the opening of a great new career for her

What do you say bro?"
For Christsake, PLEASE LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN BEFORE YOU POST!

I understand you seem upset but take a look at how your text reads. You need to immediately post a disclaimer. I'm not kidding and I'm not trying to be funny either.

You can get yourself severly busted for what you wrote, even though every one here knows the context in which it was meant. The guys that do the busting don't know **** about context...

Seriously, I'm trying to save your butt. Please post again and do a brief disclaimer.
 
Is anyone here actually a coach? For christ's sake, the USCF DOES BACKROUND CHECKS ON COACHES. It made things a little more of a hassle when renewing a license but its worth it.

Who cares if the guy's a **** star, wake up to the 21st century.

Justin

 

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