Ph Balance, more to the facts and results than you know



In article <[email protected]>,
Carole <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>> >
>> >And you call yourself a thinking person. Using the same
>> >argument you could say that diabetes have a pancreas and
>> >don't need insulin injections. Or asthmatics have lungs
>> >and don't need puffers.
>> >
>> >Getting back to the argument of pH is it obvious the
>> >conventional mob have been badly let down once more in
>> >yet another area of basic health. But what is new? This
>> >is an ongoing saga with the conventional mob failing to
>> >admit to any natural process within the body.
>>
>> What a silly comment -- as if all processes in the body
>> weren't "natural."
>
>So's thinking, but you don't do it.

That's why I keep reading you, Carole -- you're so
unintentionally hilarious.

>> >From my experience the only most effective method for
>> >improving the pH of the blood is with cellsalts -
>> >primarily sodium phosphate and sulphate, and silica to a
>> >lesser extent.
>>
>> Guess what, Carole? You don't *have* any experience in
>> improving the pH of the blood -- with cell salts or
>> anything else. For one thing,
>
>Yeah, I do. I have my own personal experience Dave.
>And what do you know about it "the lungs and the
>kidneys do it all".

What do YOU know about it? You don't even know what pH *is*.
And since you've never measured your blood pH, you can't
claim to have influenced it. And you haven't influenced it
anyway, since it's kept very stable at 7.4.

>> you haven't tested your blood's pH, and even if you had,
>> you'd have found that it stays in a very tight range no
>> matter what.
>
>I know that. It stays at 7.6.

Then why are you claiming to have influenced it?

>But what do you know about acid attacks or acidosis? I
>would what you have been taught in med school or wherever
>you attended ...zilch.

But you don't know anything about it -- I have no doubt that
"everything you know is wrong." You're not even ignorant,
you're deep into negative territory.

As Will Rogers once said, "It ain't what he don't know
that bothers
me. It's what he knows for sure that ain't so."

>> Even "Dr" Cee admits this.
>
>Getting desperate now Dave. You must be to quote DrC.

I'm sure he deeply respects you also. No, wait, he's the one
who corrected you about the normal blood pH. You couldn't
even get THAT right.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Carole <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> That's why I keep reading you, Carole -- you're so
>> unintentionally hilarious.
>>
>> >> >From my experience the only most effective method for
>> >> >improving the pH of the blood is with cellsalts -
>> >> >primarily sodium phosphate and sulphate, and silica
>> >> >to a lesser extent.
>> >>
>> >> Guess what, Carole? You don't *have* any experience in
>> >> improving the pH of the blood -- with cell salts or
>> >> anything else. For one thing,
>> >
>> >Yeah, I do. I have my own personal experience Dave. And
>> >what do you know about it "the lungs and the kidneys do
>> >it all".
>>
>> What do YOU know about it? You don't even know what pH
>> *is*. And since you've never measured your blood pH, you
>> can't claim to have influenced it. And you haven't
>> influenced it anyway, since it's kept very stable at 7.4.
>>
>> >> you haven't tested your blood's pH, and even if you
>> >> had, you'd have found that it stays in a very tight
>> >> range no matter what.
>> >
>> >I know that. It stays at 7.6.
>>
>> Then why are you claiming to have influenced it?
>>
>> >But what do you know about acid attacks or acidosis? I
>> >would what you have been taught in med school or
>> >wherever you attended ...zilch.
>>
>> But you don't know anything about it -- I have no doubt
>> that "everything you know is wrong." You're not even
>> ignorant, you're deep into negative territory.
>
>I've read about the indicators for acidosis and note that
>when I begin to get health problems and take the anti-
>acidosis cell salts, my health comes good again. I worked
>this out years ago from my knowledge of cellsalts.

A much simpler explanation is that you're a suggestible
person, and when you saw this "remedy" that you concluded
would make you feel better, you tried it, and voila! You
felt better.

This gets back to that thread from Spammin' Dave about the
limitations of testimonials...

>Why do you think that fruit and vegetables are good? Its
>because they have minerals that counteract strong acids.
>See article at

No, they're good because they contain fiber and lots of
vitamins and minerals, not to mention a whole bunch of other
chemicals we're just now starting to learn about. The idea
that the measly quantity of minerals in fruits and veggies
would have any serious effect on the acidity of the body is
quite amusing. If anything, the acids in the fruits should
make you *more* acid. Cool, huh?

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> That's why I keep reading you, Carole -- you're so
> unintentionally hilarious.
>
> >> >From my experience the only most effective method for
> >> >improving the pH of the blood is with cellsalts -
> >> >primarily sodium phosphate and sulphate, and silica to
> >> >a lesser extent.
> >>
> >> Guess what, Carole? You don't *have* any experience in
> >> improving the pH of the blood -- with cell salts or
> >> anything else. For one thing,
> >
> >Yeah, I do. I have my own personal experience Dave. And
> >what do you know about it "the lungs and the kidneys do
> >it all".
>
> What do YOU know about it? You don't even know what pH
> *is*. And since you've never measured your blood pH, you
> can't claim to have influenced it. And you haven't
> influenced it anyway, since it's kept very stable at 7.4.
>
> >> you haven't tested your blood's pH, and even if you
> >> had, you'd have found that it stays in a very tight
> >> range no matter what.
> >
> >I know that. It stays at 7.6.
>
> Then why are you claiming to have influenced it?
>
> >But what do you know about acid attacks or acidosis? I
> >would what you have been taught in med school or wherever
> >you attended ...zilch.
>
> But you don't know anything about it -- I have no doubt
> that "everything you know is wrong." You're not even
> ignorant, you're deep into negative territory.

I've read about the indicators for acidosis and note that
when I begin to get health problems and take the anti-
acidosis cell salts, my health comes good again. I worked
this out years ago from my knowledge of cellsalts.

Why do you think that fruit and vegetables are good? Its
because they have minerals that counteract strong acids. See
article at

HOW WE BECOME ACID The development of latent "acidosis"
http://www.euroamericanhealth.com/how.html

Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
 
Blood may be kept at a stable 7.4 pH but a piece of copper
wire passes electricity through it even though the number of
electrons remains constant.

Blood is still the conduit to pass acids and alkalines
through. Whether the blood varies measurably from this
process only means whether something tries to regulate it
or not. It is still the conduit to effect pH changes in
the tissues.

"Carole" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > That's why I keep reading you, Carole -- you're so
> > unintentionally hilarious.
> >
> > >> >From my experience the only most effective method
> > >> >for improving the
pH
> > >> >of the blood is with cellsalts - primarily sodium
> > >> >phosphate and sulphate, and silica to a lesser
> > >> >extent.
> > >>
> > >> Guess what, Carole? You don't *have* any experience
> > >> in improving the pH of the blood -- with cell salts
> > >> or anything else. For one thing,
> > >
> > >Yeah, I do. I have my own personal experience Dave. And
> > >what do you know about it "the lungs and the kidneys do
> > >it all".
> >
> > What do YOU know about it? You don't even know what
> > pH *is*. And since you've never measured your blood
> > pH, you can't claim to have influenced it. And you
> > haven't influenced it anyway, since it's kept very
> > stable at 7.4.
> >
> > >> you haven't tested your blood's pH, and even if you
> > >> had, you'd have found that it stays in a very tight
> > >> range no matter what.
> > >
> > >I know that. It stays at 7.6.
> >
> > Then why are you claiming to have influenced it?
> >
> > >But what do you know about acid attacks or acidosis? I
> > >would what you have been taught in med school or
> > >wherever you attended ...zilch.
> >
> > But you don't know anything about it -- I have no doubt
> > that "everything you know is wrong." You're not even
> > ignorant, you're deep into negative territory.
>
> I've read about the indicators for acidosis and note that
> when I begin to get health problems and take the anti-
> acidosis cell salts, my health comes good again. I worked
> this out years ago from my knowledge of cellsalts.
>
> Why do you think that fruit and vegetables are good? Its
> because they have minerals that counteract strong acids.
> See article at
>
> HOW WE BECOME ACID The development of latent "acidosis"
> http://www.euroamericanhealth.com/how.html
>
> Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
 
[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> >> >But what do you know about acid attacks or acidosis? I
> >> >would what you have been taught in med school or
> >> >wherever you attended ...zilch.
> >>
> >> But you don't know anything about it -- I have no doubt
> >> that "everything you know is wrong." You're not even
> >> ignorant, you're deep into negative territory.
> >
> >I've read about the indicators for acidosis and note that
> >when I begin to get health problems and take the anti-
> >acidosis cell salts, my health comes good again. I worked
> >this out years ago from my knowledge of cellsalts.
>
> A much simpler explanation is that you're a suggestible
> person, and when you saw this "remedy" that you concluded
> would make you feel better, you tried it, and voila! You
> felt better.

THE pH EQUATION & HEALTH
http://biomedx.com/microscopes/rrintro/rr4.html

According to the research of Dr. Enderlein, total healing of
chronic illness takes place only when and if the blood is
restored to a normal, slightly alkaline pH. In case you
missed it, let me say it again...Total healing of chronic
illness takes place only when and if the blood is restored
to a normal, slightly alkaline pH.

When pH goes off ...

MICROBES in the blood can change shape, mutate, become
pathogenic ENZYMES that are constructive can become
destructive OXYGEN delivery to cells suffers ORGANS of the
body can become compromised, like your brain, or your heart.
MINERAL assimilation can get thrown off.

pH control impacts every biochemical process in the body
including...

ENZYMES which are part of that biochemical process. There
are hundreds if not thousands of enzyme processes which take
place in the body. Many are so specific that they are like
complex square pegs that need to "fit" into specific square
holes in order to carry out their duty. If blood pH is off
balance even a little, some important pegs are not "fitting"
their respective slots. Enzyme function and thus life itself
begins to suffer.

MINERAL ASSIMILATION is affected by pH. Minerals have
different pH levels at which they can be assimilated into
the body. Minerals on the lower end of the atomic scale can
be assimilated in a wider pH range, and minerals higher up
on the scale require a narrower and narrower pH range in
order to be assimilated by the body. For example….

Sodium and magnesium have wide pH assimilation ranges. It
narrows somewhat for calcium and potassium. Narrows more
for manganese and iron. More for zinc and copper. More
for iodine.

> >Why do you think that fruit and vegetables are good? Its
> >because they have minerals that counteract strong acids.
> >See article at
>
> No, they're good because they contain fiber and lots of
> vitamins and minerals, not to mention a whole bunch of
> other chemicals we're just now starting to learn about.
> The idea that the measly quantity of minerals in fruits
> and veggies would have any serious effect on the acidity
> of the body is quite amusing. If anything, the acids in
> the fruits should make you *more* acid. Cool, huh?

See below the foods which contribute to over acid
condition of the blood, and those which create an alkaline
condition. You will note that oranges and lemons leave an
alkaline residue.

Nature cure - Miracles of Alkalizing Diet
http://www.healthlibrary.com/reading/ncure/chap11.htm

A - Foods Leaving An Acid Ash (One-Fifth Class) Barley,
eggs, bananas (unripe), grain foods, beans, lentils, bread,
meats, cereals, nuts except almonds, cakes, oatmeal,
chicken, peas, confections, rice, corn, sugar, chocolate,
sea foods, coffee, tea B - Foods Leaving An Alkaline Ash (
Four-fifths class ) Almonds, melons, apples, milk, apricots,
onions, banana (ripe), oranges, beets, parsley, cabbage,
peaches, carrots, pears, cauliflower, pineapple, celery,
potatoes, coconuts, pumpkins, cottage cheese, radishes,
cucumbers, raisins, dates, spinach, figs (fresh and dry),
soyabeans, grapes, tomatoes, lemons, turnips, lettuce

Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
 
[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> >> >But what do you know about acid attacks or acidosis? I
> >> >would what you have been taught in med school or
> >> >wherever you attended ...zilch.
> >>
> >> But you don't know anything about it -- I have no doubt
> >> that "everything you know is wrong." You're not even
> >> ignorant, you're deep into negative territory.
> >
> >I've read about the indicators for acidosis and note that
> >when I begin to get health problems and take the anti-
> >acidosis cell salts, my health comes good again. I worked
> >this out years ago from my knowledge of cellsalts.
>
> A much simpler explanation is that you're a suggestible
> person, and when you saw this "remedy" that you concluded
> would make you feel better, you tried it, and voila! You
> felt better.

THE pH EQUATION & HEALTH
http://biomedx.com/microscopes/rrintro/rr4.html

According to the research of Dr. Enderlein, total healing of
chronic illness takes place only when and if the blood is
restored to a normal, slightly alkaline pH. In case you
missed it, let me say it again...Total healing of chronic
illness takes place only when and if the blood is restored
to a normal, slightly alkaline pH.

When pH goes off ...

MICROBES in the blood can change shape, mutate, become
pathogenic ENZYMES that are constructive can become
destructive OXYGEN delivery to cells suffers ORGANS of the
body can become compromised, like your brain, or your heart.
MINERAL assimilation can get thrown off.

pH control impacts every biochemical process in the body
including...

ENZYMES which are part of that biochemical process. There
are hundreds if not thousands of enzyme processes which take
place in the body. Many are so specific that they are like
complex square pegs that need to "fit" into specific square
holes in order to carry out their duty. If blood pH is off
balance even a little, some important pegs are not "fitting"
their respective slots. Enzyme function and thus life itself
begins to suffer.

MINERAL ASSIMILATION is affected by pH. Minerals have
different pH levels at which they can be assimilated into
the body. Minerals on the lower end of the atomic scale can
be assimilated in a wider pH range, and minerals higher up
on the scale require a narrower and narrower pH range in
order to be assimilated by the body. For example….

Sodium and magnesium have wide pH assimilation ranges. It
narrows somewhat for calcium and potassium. Narrows more
for manganese and iron. More for zinc and copper. More
for iodine.

> >Why do you think that fruit and vegetables are good? Its
> >because they have minerals that counteract strong acids.
> >See article at
>
> No, they're good because they contain fiber and lots of
> vitamins and minerals, not to mention a whole bunch of
> other chemicals we're just now starting to learn about.
> The idea that the measly quantity of minerals in fruits
> and veggies would have any serious effect on the acidity
> of the body is quite amusing. If anything, the acids in
> the fruits should make you *more* acid. Cool, huh?

See below the foods which contribute to over acid
condition of the blood, and those which create an alkaline
condition. You will note that oranges and lemons leave an
alkaline residue.

Nature cure - Miracles of Alkalizing Diet
http://www.healthlibrary.com/reading/ncure/chap11.htm

A - Foods Leaving An Acid Ash (One-Fifth Class) Barley,
eggs, bananas (unripe), grain foods, beans, lentils, bread,
meats, cereals, nuts except almonds, cakes, oatmeal,
chicken, peas, confections, rice, corn, sugar, chocolate,
sea foods, coffee, tea B - Foods Leaving An Alkaline Ash (
Four-fifths class ) Almonds, melons, apples, milk, apricots,
onions, banana (ripe), oranges, beets, parsley, cabbage,
peaches, carrots, pears, cauliflower, pineapple, celery,
potatoes, coconuts, pumpkins, cottage cheese, radishes,
cucumbers, raisins, dates, spinach, figs (fresh and dry),
soyabeans, grapes, tomatoes, lemons, turnips, lettuce

Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
 
[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> >> >But what do you know about acid attacks or acidosis? I
> >> >would what you have been taught in med school or
> >> >wherever you attended ...zilch.
> >>
> >> But you don't know anything about it -- I have no doubt
> >> that "everything you know is wrong." You're not even
> >> ignorant, you're deep into negative territory.
> >
> >I've read about the indicators for acidosis and note that
> >when I begin to get health problems and take the anti-
> >acidosis cell salts, my health comes good again. I worked
> >this out years ago from my knowledge of cellsalts.
>
> A much simpler explanation is that you're a suggestible
> person, and when you saw this "remedy" that you concluded
> would make you feel better, you tried it, and voila! You
> felt better.

THE pH EQUATION & HEALTH
http://biomedx.com/microscopes/rrintro/rr4.html

According to the research of Dr. Enderlein, total healing of
chronic illness takes place only when and if the blood is
restored to a normal, slightly alkaline pH. In case you
missed it, let me say it again...Total healing of chronic
illness takes place only when and if the blood is restored
to a normal, slightly alkaline pH.

When pH goes off ...

MICROBES in the blood can change shape, mutate, become
pathogenic ENZYMES that are constructive can become
destructive OXYGEN delivery to cells suffers ORGANS of the
body can become compromised, like your brain, or your heart.
MINERAL assimilation can get thrown off.

pH control impacts every biochemical process in the body
including...

ENZYMES which are part of that biochemical process. There
are hundreds if not thousands of enzyme processes which take
place in the body. Many are so specific that they are like
complex square pegs that need to "fit" into specific square
holes in order to carry out their duty. If blood pH is off
balance even a little, some important pegs are not "fitting"
their respective slots. Enzyme function and thus life itself
begins to suffer.

MINERAL ASSIMILATION is affected by pH. Minerals have
different pH levels at which they can be assimilated into
the body. Minerals on the lower end of the atomic scale can
be assimilated in a wider pH range, and minerals higher up
on the scale require a narrower and narrower pH range in
order to be assimilated by the body. For example….

Sodium and magnesium have wide pH assimilation ranges. It
narrows somewhat for calcium and potassium. Narrows more
for manganese and iron. More for zinc and copper. More
for iodine.

> >Why do you think that fruit and vegetables are good? Its
> >because they have minerals that counteract strong acids.
> >See article at
>
> No, they're good because they contain fiber and lots of
> vitamins and minerals, not to mention a whole bunch of
> other chemicals we're just now starting to learn about.
> The idea that the measly quantity of minerals in fruits
> and veggies would have any serious effect on the acidity
> of the body is quite amusing. If anything, the acids in
> the fruits should make you *more* acid. Cool, huh?

See below the foods which contribute to over acid
condition of the blood, and those which create an alkaline
condition. You will note that oranges and lemons leave an
alkaline residue.

Nature cure - Miracles of Alkalizing Diet
http://www.healthlibrary.com/reading/ncure/chap11.htm

A - Foods Leaving An Acid Ash (One-Fifth Class) Barley,
eggs, bananas (unripe), grain foods, beans, lentils, bread,
meats, cereals, nuts except almonds, cakes, oatmeal,
chicken, peas, confections, rice, corn, sugar, chocolate,
sea foods, coffee, tea B - Foods Leaving An Alkaline Ash (
Four-fifths class ) Almonds, melons, apples, milk, apricots,
onions, banana (ripe), oranges, beets, parsley, cabbage,
peaches, carrots, pears, cauliflower, pineapple, celery,
potatoes, coconuts, pumpkins, cottage cheese, radishes,
cucumbers, raisins, dates, spinach, figs (fresh and dry),
soyabeans, grapes, tomatoes, lemons, turnips, lettuce

Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
 
"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> >From my experience the only most effective method for
> >improving the pH of the blood is with cellsalts -
> >primarily sodium phosphate and sulphate, and silica to a
> >lesser extent.
>
> Guess what, Carole? You don't *have* any experience in
> improving the pH of the blood -- with cell salts or
> anything else.

That's not strictly true Dave. I do have a lot of experience
on this topic accumulated over many years, both from
writings of Paul Bragg (nature guru) books and cellsalts.

But from the Biochemic handbook by JB Chapman MD and Edward
L Perry MD, -

Acidity "Acidity is a somewhat loose term indicating that
the blood, or one or more of the secretions, is less
alkaline than it should be. This excess of acid gives rise
to many distressing symptoms. There may be gastric
disturbance, irritation of the skin and mucous membranes,
impoverishment of the blood, palpitation of the heart,
twinges of rheumatism, headaches on top of the head with a
sense of fullness, a persistent feeling of tiredness and
other symptoms of disturbed metabolism. "Whenever signs of
acidity make their appearance the principal remedy, Sodium
phosphate (nat phos) should be given - irrespective of any
other treatment which may be indicated - as this acid
state, if allowed to persist, will hamper the action of
other cell salts.

* Sodium Phosphate, the acid neutraliser
* Sodium sulphate which removes poison charged fluids
from the cells
* Silica which breaks up the accumulation of crystalline and
calcified deposits around the joints and tissues
* Magnesium phosphate - burning, tasteless eructions,
flatulence, belching."

> For one thing, you haven't tested your blood's pH, and
> even if you had, you'd have found that it stays in a very
> tight range no matter what.

The cellsalts theory relies on symptoms as nature's warnings
and blood and saliva tests aren't necessary.

Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
 
"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> >From my experience the only most effective method for
> >improving the pH of the blood is with cellsalts -
> >primarily sodium phosphate and sulphate, and silica to a
> >lesser extent.
>
> Guess what, Carole? You don't *have* any experience in
> improving the pH of the blood -- with cell salts or
> anything else.

That's not strictly true Dave. I do have a lot of experience
on this topic accumulated over many years, both from
writings of Paul Bragg (nature guru) books and cellsalts.

But from the Biochemic handbook by JB Chapman MD and Edward
L Perry MD, -

Acidity "Acidity is a somewhat loose term indicating that
the blood, or one or more of the secretions, is less
alkaline than it should be. This excess of acid gives rise
to many distressing symptoms. There may be gastric
disturbance, irritation of the skin and mucous membranes,
impoverishment of the blood, palpitation of the heart,
twinges of rheumatism, headaches on top of the head with a
sense of fullness, a persistent feeling of tiredness and
other symptoms of disturbed metabolism. "Whenever signs of
acidity make their appearance the principal remedy, Sodium
phosphate (nat phos) should be given - irrespective of any
other treatment which may be indicated - as this acid
state, if allowed to persist, will hamper the action of
other cell salts.

* Sodium Phosphate, the acid neutraliser
* Sodium sulphate which removes poison charged fluids
from the cells
* Silica which breaks up the accumulation of crystalline and
calcified deposits around the joints and tissues
* Magnesium phosphate - burning, tasteless eructions,
flatulence, belching."

> For one thing, you haven't tested your blood's pH, and
> even if you had, you'd have found that it stays in a very
> tight range no matter what.

The cellsalts theory relies on symptoms as nature's warnings
and blood and saliva tests aren't necessary.

Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Carole <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> >> >But what do you know about acid attacks or acidosis?
>> >> >I would what you have been taught in med school or
>> >> >wherever you attended ...zilch.
>> >>
>> >> But you don't know anything about it -- I have no
>> >> doubt that "everything you know is wrong." You're not
>> >> even ignorant, you're deep into negative territory.
>> >
>> >I've read about the indicators for acidosis and note
>> >that when I begin to get health problems and take the
>> >anti-acidosis cell salts, my health comes good again. I
>> >worked this out years ago from my knowledge of
>> >cellsalts.
>>
>> A much simpler explanation is that you're a suggestible
>> person, and when you saw this "remedy" that you concluded
>> would make you feel better, you tried it, and voila! You
>> felt better.
>
>THE pH EQUATION & HEALTH
>http://biomedx.com/microscopes/rrintro/rr4.html
>
>According to the research of Dr. Enderlein, total healing
>of chronic illness takes place only when and if the blood
>is restored to a normal, slightly alkaline pH.

The blood is always at its normal 7.4 (slightly alkaline)
pH, or you're in the hospital. You are no more going to
"restore" it to that state than you are going to "restore"
the moon to being up in the sky.

>When pH goes off ...
>
>MICROBES in the blood can change shape, mutate, become
>pathogenic

They don't generally mutate, and if they're pathogenic,
they're pathogenic no matter what the pH.

>See below the foods which contribute to over acid
>condition of the blood, and those which create an alkaline
>condition. You will note that oranges and lemons leave an
>alkaline residue.

Sure they do. All that citric acid and they leave an
alkaline residue.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Carole <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> >From my experience the only most effective method for
>> >improving the pH of the blood is with cellsalts -
>> >primarily sodium phosphate and sulphate, and silica to a
>> >lesser extent.
>>
>> Guess what, Carole? You don't *have* any experience in
>> improving the pH of the blood -- with cell salts or
>> anything else.
>
>That's not strictly true Dave.

On the contrary, it's entirely true, since you have never in
your life managed to change the pH of your blood more than
microscopically.

>> For one thing, you haven't tested your blood's pH, and
>> even if you had, you'd have found that it stays in a very
>> tight range no matter what.
>
>The cellsalts theory relies on symptoms as nature's
>warnings and blood and saliva tests aren't necessary.

How nice. But those symptoms are not symptoms of your blood
pH changing.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Carole <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>> In article <[email protected]>, Carole
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> >message news:[email protected]
>> >gy.com...
>> >
>> >> >From my experience the only most effective method for
>> >> >improving the pH of the blood is with cellsalts -
>> >> >primarily sodium phosphate and sulphate, and silica
>> >> >to a lesser extent.
>> >>
>> >> Guess what, Carole? You don't *have* any experience in
>> >> improving the pH of the blood -- with cell salts or
>> >> anything else.
>> >
>> >That's not strictly true Dave.
>>
>> On the contrary, it's entirely true, since you have never
>> in your life managed to change the pH of your blood more
>> than microscopically.
>
>OK, I have read that the blood itself doesn't change, but
>it draws from tissues and bones and secretes acid crystals
>around the body in joints, muscles and skin in order to
>keep the blood at the right pH. Satisfied?

With you, I'll take what progress I can get.

>> >The cellsalts theory relies on symptoms as nature's
>> >warnings and blood and saliva tests aren't necessary.
>>
>> How nice.
>
>Yes, it is nice. But I'm sure I could get some litmus paper
>and test my bodily secretions to see if they correspond to
>the way I read my symptoms.

And amazingly enough, I'm sure they do -- or if they don't,
I'm sure you've rationalized your way around it.

>> But those symptoms are not symptoms of your blood pH
>> changing.
>
>But saliva pH does change, and tissues become toxic. From
>what I can gather the blood takes minerals from the tissues
>and bones to keep itself in balance but this takes a toll
>on the body.

It's how the system is supposed to work. It's only a problem
if you don't get enough nutrients to replace any losses.

>Read up on acidosis Dave. Treating acidosis is an
>acknowledged treatment to keep race horses in prime
>condition but as far as humans go, we need the "more safe
>and efficious" remedies that only pharmaceutical drugs
>can provide.

We allow things to be done to racehorses we don't allow to
humans. Unless you enjoy being hit with a riding crop? (And
if you do, I don't want to know.)

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>, Carole
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> >From my experience the only most effective method for
> >> >improving the pH of the blood is with cellsalts -
> >> >primarily sodium phosphate and sulphate, and silica to
> >> >a lesser extent.
> >>
> >> Guess what, Carole? You don't *have* any experience in
> >> improving the pH of the blood -- with cell salts or
> >> anything else.
> >
> >That's not strictly true Dave.
>
> On the contrary, it's entirely true, since you have never
> in your life managed to change the pH of your blood more
> than microscopically.

OK, I have read that the blood itself doesn't change, but it
draws from tissues and bones and secretes acid crystals
around the body in joints, muscles and skin in order to keep
the blood at the right pH. Satisfied?

> >> For one thing, you haven't tested your blood's pH, and
> >> even if you had, you'd have found that it stays in a
> >> very tight range no matter what.
> >
> >The cellsalts theory relies on symptoms as nature's
> >warnings and blood and saliva tests aren't necessary.
>
> How nice.

Yes, it is nice. But I'm sure I could get some litmus paper
and test my bodily secretions to see if they correspond to
the way I read my symptoms.

> But those symptoms are not symptoms of your blood pH
> changing.

But saliva pH does change, and tissues become toxic. From
what I can gather the blood takes minerals from the tissues
and bones to keep itself in balance but this takes a toll
on the body.

Read up on acidosis Dave. Treating acidosis is an
acknowledged treatment to keep race horses in prime
condition but as far as humans go, we need the "more safe
and efficious" remedies that only pharmaceutical drugs
can provide.

Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidy.htm
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Carole <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> >But saliva pH does change, and tissues become toxic.
>> >From what I can gather the blood takes minerals from the
>> >tissues and bones to keep itself in balance but this
>> >takes a toll on the body.
>>
>> It's how the system is supposed to work. It's only a
>> problem if you don't get enough nutrients to replace any
>> losses.
>
>Huh?! ...Did I read right? I'm going to have a beer today
>and celebrate this amazing breakthrough.

Odd, I was just thinking the same thing about you. Although
I must point out that tissues seldom become toxic.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Carole <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> >> >But saliva pH does change, and tissues become toxic.
>> >> >From what I can gather the blood takes minerals from
>> >> >the tissues and bones to keep itself in balance but
>> >> >this takes a toll on the body.
>> >>
>> >> It's how the system is supposed to work. It's only a
>> >> problem if you don't get enough nutrients to replace
>> >> any losses.
>> >
>> >Huh?! ...Did I read right? I'm going to have a beer
>> >today and celebrate this amazing breakthrough.
>>
>> Odd, I was just thinking the same thing about you.
>> Although I must point out that tissues seldom
>> become toxic.
>
>Now I know what you put that comment in your signature that
>"These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
>correct," meaning they aren't always (correct).

Obviously. They are, however, correct far more often
than you are.

>Tissues obviously become toxic or diseased e.g.,
>rheumatism, dermatitis, boils, rashes, hives, maybe
>brain tissue (dementia, senility), kidney tissue, heart,
>lung tissue.

Toxic and diseased are not synonymous, though you are using
them that way. Toxic is a subcategory, and a relatively
uncommon one.

>Everybody has their pet theories, but from my experience
>acidity is part of the problem.

No, from your experience, what you've been told is acidity
is what you perceive as part of your problem. I am not
impressed with your abilities at either observation or
diagnosis, so I decline to join with you in a folie a deux.

>Remedies like fasting, hot and cold water treatments,
>specific diets, bach remedies or homeopathy seem to work
>for different people.

"Seem" is the key word here.

>However, I like the cell salt theory because it addresses
>acidity specifically and I'm not sure how other treatments
>handle acidity.

It makes little sense to think that your beloved cell salts
can do much about acidity, as the homeopathic quantities are
too small to have any effect on acid levels in the body.
It's like thinking you could poison the entire ocean by
dumping in a bottle of bleach and stirring thoroughly.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> >But saliva pH does change, and tissues become toxic. From
> >what I can gather the blood takes minerals from the
> >tissues and bones to keep itself in balance but this
> >takes a toll on the body.
>
> It's how the system is supposed to work. It's only a
> problem if you don't get enough nutrients to replace
> any losses.

Huh?! ...Did I read right? I'm going to have a beer today
and celebrate this amazing breakthrough.

Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/
 
[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> >> >But saliva pH does change, and tissues become toxic.
> >> >From what I can gather the blood takes minerals from
> >> >the tissues and bones to keep itself in balance but
> >> >this takes a toll on the body.
> >>
> >> It's how the system is supposed to work. It's only a
> >> problem if you don't get enough nutrients to replace
> >> any losses.
> >
> >Huh?! ...Did I read right? I'm going to have a beer today
> >and celebrate this amazing breakthrough.
>
> Odd, I was just thinking the same thing about you.
> Although I must point out that tissues seldom become
> toxic.

Now I know what you put that comment in your signature that
"These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
correct," meaning they aren't always (correct).

Tissues obviously become toxic or diseased e.g., rheumatism,
dermatitis, boils, rashes, hives, maybe brain tissue
(dementia, senility), kidney tissue, heart, lung tissue.

Everybody has their pet theories, but from my experience
acidity is part of the problem. Remedies like fasting,
hot and cold water treatments, specific diets, bach
remedies or homeopathy seem to work for different people.
However, I like the cell salt theory because it addresses
acidity specifically and I'm not sure how other
treatments handle acidity.

HOW WE BECOME ACID The development of latent "acidosis"
http://www.euroamericanhealth.com/how.html "If we look for
common denominators to all diseases, factors that make any
disease you have worse, then correcting these factors will
help and perhaps cure, whatever is wrong with you. The fact
is, every disease begins, at a cellular level, with those
particular cells becoming acid, toxic, polluted. Since the
internal environment or internal milieu the cells live in
effects all diseases, this is the best place to start, no
matter what is wrong with you."...

"The colloid connective tissue organ of schade As the blood
can not change, it picks up the acids and transports them
first to the connective tissues of the body where they are
stored. This is the largest organ of the body really and in
Europe it is called the colloid connective tissue organ of
SCHADE. The collagen fibers of the body are specific acid
catchers. It is also called a pre-kidney as that is how it
functions, storing acids prior to delivery to the kidneys
for excretion. Also it is the organ that connects, holds
everything in our bodies in place. It is composed of
ligaments, tendons and the like obviously but as these break
down into finer and finer fibers it becomes literally the
scaffolding that holds every single cell in our bodies in
place. If too many acids need storing in this organ, which
includes the muscles, inflammation and pain develop.
Fibromyalgia is an acid disease for sure. The space enclosed
by these finer and finer fibers, is called PISHINGER'S
SPACE, from the German scientist that described it.
Essentially, this is the extracellular space that contains
the fluids that bathe and feed each and every cell while
carrying away the wastes from those same cells. There is no
mention of this organ in American, physiology text books,
there is the extracellular space but no organ that stores
acids like this, no pre-kidney.

Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm

>
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
> opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
> have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
> were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
"Carole" <[email protected]>

> Tissues obviously become toxic or diseased

"Toxic" is a very simply defined word. It means "poisonous".
And, usually, by a chemical means. (Although I recall a sci-
fi flick with Christopher Walken and Natalie Wood where
recorded experiences could be played directly into one's
mind. Some of those recordings were labeled "toxic". Kinda
cute...) So, by a stretch, something you have great
experience at, you could call some diseased tissues "toxic".
But informed medical professionals rarely do. There are more
specific terms for the conditions that lead to this.
Necrotizing fasciitis comes to mind.

> e.g., rheumatism, dermatitis, boils, rashes, hives, maybe
> brain tissue (dementia, senility), kidney tissue,
> heart, lung tissue.

Yes Carole, those are, indeed diseases. But you might as
well have siad "tissues obviously become squishy or
diseased.
>
> Everybody has their pet theories, but from my experience
> acidity is part of the problem.

Your experience appears to consist of little other than
absorbing the rantings of various toxic websites and
concocting absurd theories out of whole cloth.

> "The colloid connective tissue organ of schade As the
> blood can not change, it picks up the acids and transports
> them first to the connective tissues of the body where
> they are stored. This is the largest organ of the body
> really and in Europe it is called the colloid connective
> tissue organ of SCHADE. The

< snip >

> There is no mention of this organ in American, physiology
> text books,

There isn't any mention of it in *any* current physiology
text books that I can find. Google turns up exactly one
reference to "organ of Schade". The thing you posted. Got
anything else? Who was Schade?

le moo