Originally posted by waki
Planning to purchase one of these frames.Pinarello Dogma Or Colnago C50?Colour?Thanks.
You are spending that much loot and trolling for opinions ??? Gimme a break.Originally posted by waki
Planning to purchase one of these frames.Pinarello Dogma Or Colnago C50?Colour?Thanks.
Originally posted by dhk
These are a bit too flashy for me, but if you really want over-the-top prestige, how about the silver carbon Dogma Ego? A guy here saw one on the Ride for the Roses and said it was incredible. Competitive Cyclist has one listed on their website for $16250 US....frame only of course.
Dan
Originally posted by Snowbound
Since you are in this high a snack bracket maybe you should look at the DeRosa Cinquanta. Just look at the crank!
http://www.cyclingnews.com/shows.ph...rbike/roundup_road_carbon/JDderosacinqdetail2
If you were to buy a $2000+ suit, would you buy something off the rack at Bloomies or would you have it custom tailored for you. When you are spending this kind of money you should not compromise at all. Especially on fit! There are a couple of dozen certified fit specialists around the USA that can determine if one of those frames is a better fit for you. If neither frame is anything less than a perfect fit, Parlee cycles (one of Zinn's favorites at Interbike) and Calfee are the only 2 manufacturers of carbon that will do full custom. And you will actually spend much less on these frames than either of the Italian steeds. Plus they offer a better warranty . Both frames are race proven. Calfee in the tour de france under lemond and Tyler Hamilton got 2nd in the Giro last year on a Parlee with Look decals on it. Contact me directly ([email protected]) and I'll point you in the right direction. The Italian stuff might work great for you but it also might be a huge waste of $6000+.Originally posted by waki
Planning to purchase one of these frames.Pinarello Dogma Or Colnago C50?Colour?Thanks.
Originally posted by blip
With either of those bikes you had better be kicking ass and taking names. I could not imagine anything better than dropping someone riding on a Colnago C50 or Dogma.
Just buy both, you seem to have the ca$$h
Originally posted by dhk
Rudy: Isn't the Litespeed warranty like most everyone else's...ie, it excludes "normal wear and tear", ie, fatigue failures? If Colnago covers fatigue failures for four years, that's a lot better than most warranties today.
Dan
Originally posted by Rudy
hhmmm I'm not sure...but still aren't we talking about Titanium vs. carbon fibre? what is normal wear and tear on a Ti frame? It is still a much more durable frame than a carbon fibre.
I was just thinking if I have a few K to drop, would I get a Colnago or a top of the line Ti frame like the Litespeed Ultimate. A little ding on a Carbon frame would be disastrous though.
Originally posted by dhk
Carbon fiber may have a much higher tensile strength than other materials on paper, but that really doesn't translate to much of a weight savings vs. Al or Ti. If you use bottom bracket stiffness as a parameter, weight savings of carbon and Ti lose a lot of their advantage. The damage issue with carbon is that the epoxy is easily scratched (compared to metals), and also an impact that wouldn't dent metal could cause delamination internally without any outward sign of damage.
And, a high-end steel frame only weights a few ounces more than Ti or Al. Lots of people still favor steel for its ride characteristics and appearance. To me, a Foco or UltraFoco frame with the mega downtube, diamond seatstays, and almost invisible welds, is about as cool as a frame gets. Guess that's why all these materials are still on the market and have a great following.
Dan
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