PING: Dee Randall

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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Regarding vintage appliances, I once owned an Oster 10-speed blender that
I
purchased in 1966 and I really loved the way it performed. It had a heavy
chromed steel base and an 800 watt motor. On a lark, in 1975 I bought a
Vita-
Mix and gave away the Oster. I soon discovered that the Vita-Mix sucked
like
a Hoover, so I gave it away and bought another Oster, but the new one had
a
plastic base and only a 450 watt motor. It was "okay" and I've lived with
it
ever since, but always hoped to replace it. I really missed my first one.

Well, this week I did replace it. To my total amazement I found the
original
model I owned on eBay that was NOS (new old stock) in the original carton
with accessories and blender book. I put in a last minute bid and won the
auction for $61.00. It will arrive on Friday and I'm excited. Here's a
pix
of it.

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http://i1.tinypic.com/sgmi68.jpg

I like this one better than any current models I've looked at in stores,
and
I'm sure it will be the last one I'll ever have to buy.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

Oh, I love it, Wayne. How lucky did you get! Did talking about your
vintage appliances here on rfc get your blood going to bidding on this, or
did you order it before you posted your pictures here.

We are all so different -- In December this year I gave to the Salvation
Army an Oster mixer, but I'm sure it was about a 75 model -- but I never
could get it to do anything. I'm sure the '66 model was more-better. I've
had my Vitamix for about 10 years or more now. DH likes it more than I do.
I forget about having it. Leaving appliances out on my counter doesn't give
me enough incentive to use one. I use all of my appliances often, but so
irregularly, same as pots and pans and cookbooks.

I was on ebay again this week, too. I wrote to a woman who was selling a
'halogen' top. I read that the difference between halogen and the one I
have - the only difference -- is that there is a red light to show you that
it is on. I would've bid on it, but I'm still going back and forth in my
mind about our stove and another $150 would have made me think twice about
getting rid of my stove because of the extra $275-$300 investment in an old
stove. Besides DH was not around to bicker with me about it and do the
bidding. I get nervous if I want something and then someone sends in an
automatic bid of a dollar over. Is the trick to pick something that no one
else wants in order to not get nervous? Then, I suppose you would worry
that you had overbid.

I know how excited you must be. Oh, I love getting things in the mail.
Particularly things I've really planned to get and waited to get and they
are prized little packages in my mind. I love the setting for your Oster --
I know I've seen your appliance -- I KNOW I've seen the book that goes with
it. Your osterizer looks new and shiny to me -- just look at that base --
brand new and sparkley!!! You should've asked the lady for the price of the
backdrop! Look at that stitching -- months if not years of work.

Today I was waiting for my package from DHL/Cooking.com I got a Cuisinart
electric skillet to replace the other one that the legs fell off (this was
an amazing thing to me -- shock and awe!) The Cuisinart looks so much
sturdier. And I don't know if you remember so looooong ago I was looking
for a glass pitcher container that had a top that would not pick up smells
from the frig. I think it was probably you that gave me the link to the
Italian one. When I got it today I was even more pleased with the pitcher
because the top when you twist it is like a little suction vacuum - not like
the other Italian pitchers made by the same company. I don't know what made
me take a chance on this one by the same maker, but I did and came up a
winner on it.
http://tinyurl.com/mwn43 I've never seen anything like it this top fitting
in my life -- it's made in Italy, too -- oh, those Italians, I hope they
never stop making their kitchen products.

And I got the pie rings for the rolling pin. My next project -- good pie
crust WITHOUT vegetable shortening, but with lard and/or butter. Do you
think in pie crust recipes -- there must be trillions of fool-proof ones,
but I've never found one yet -- that if the instructions seemed like one you
could work with and that you could substitute lard for the shortening, use
it; or should one find one specifically written for lard or lard and
butter. Paula Deen likes to use shortening and butter.

Again, you're the winner! I can just envision the camera set up for the
sale of your item. So darned folksy, you just have to buy it because you
know it's the genuine article.

Up all night tonight,
Dee Dee

On Tue 28 Mar 2006 11:57:17p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
Randall?

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Regarding vintage appliances, I once owned an Oster 10-speed blender
that I
purchased in 1966 and I really loved the way it performed. It had a
heavy chromed steel base and an 800 watt motor. On a lark,

Quoted message said:

Oh, I love it, Wayne. How lucky did you get! Did talking about your
vintage appliances here on rfc get your blood going to bidding on this,
or did you order it before you posted your pictures here.

Actually, the reverse. I originally went on eBay looking for another
pitcher for the blender, as it's nice to have more than one at times.
That's one reason why I was so surprised to find the blender itself.

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We are all so different -- In December this year I gave to the
Salvation Army an Oster mixer, but I'm sure it was about a 75 model --
but I never could get it to do anything. I'm sure the '66 model was
more-better. I've had my Vitamix for about 10 years or more now. DH
likes it more than I do. I forget about having it. Leaving appliances
out on my counter doesn't give me enough incentive to use one. I use
all of my appliances often, but so irregularly, same as pots and pans
and cookbooks.

It could be that my Vita-Mix was defective. The motor always smelled like
it was burning when I used it, and it even smoked once. The design of the
pitcher back then made it impossible to submerse the bottom of it in water,
not to mention that it could not be put in the dishwasher...a BIG minus in
my book, as I put everything in the dishwasher.

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I was on ebay again this week, too. I wrote to a woman who was selling a
'halogen' top. I read that the difference between halogen and the one I
have - the only difference -- is that there is a red light to show you
that it is on.

That is not the only difference. Conventional smoothtop elements are
either a wire-shaped coil or a flat ribbon shape, and both glow red when
turned on. Every flat top range I've had used one or the other of these,
but there was also a red light on the top surface to indicate when it was
on.

Halogen elements, OTOH, are actually strong halogen lamps underneath the
glass top. The major feature they offer is virtually an "instant on -
instant off" response compared to the gradual heating/cooling of the other
elements.

I would've bid on it, but I'm still going back and forth

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in my mind about our stove and another $150 would have made me think
twice about getting rid of my stove because of the extra $275-$300
investment in an old stove. Besides DH was not around to bicker with me
about it and do the bidding. I get nervous if I want something and then
someone sends in an automatic bid of a dollar over. Is the trick to pick
something that no one else wants in order to not get nervous? Then, I
suppose you would worry that you had overbid.

Well, IMHO, I think you've put enough money into your old stove. At least
by buying the cartridge you recently got, you have a sense of how a
smoothtop works, which should help you make a decision on a new stove.

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I know how excited you must be. Oh, I love getting things in the mail.
Particularly things I've really planned to get and waited to get and
they are prized little packages in my mind. I love the setting for your
Oster -- I know I've seen your appliance -- I KNOW I've seen the book
that goes with it. Your osterizer looks new and shiny to me -- just
look at that base -- brand new and sparkley!!! You should've asked the
lady for the price of the backdrop! Look at that stitching -- months if
not years of work.

Yes, I am excited, and anxious for it to arrive. The seller did set up the
display nicely. The backdrop is actually a machine-made quilt. When I
worked as an interior designer back in the late 1960s - early 1970s, I
would sometimes order custom made quilts when I designed a bedroom. The
pattern is a variation on what is called "vermicelli" quilting. The
vermicelli pattern was used plain as in this display, but also used as a
"filler" pattern on fabrics with extremely large prints. Outline quilting
was done around the large pattern with the vermicelli filling in the
background.

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Today I was waiting for my package from DHL/Cooking.com I got a
Cuisinart electric skillet to replace the other one that the legs fell
off (this was an amazing thing to me -- shock and awe!) The Cuisinart
looks so much sturdier.

I'm just glad you didn't have an accident with the legs on that frypan.
They might have come off when it was full of grease! The Cuisinart looks
beautiful (I looked at the picture you posted in the other thread). Is it
non-stick? I prefer electric skillets to be non-stick. I once bought a
Farberware electric skillet that had a stainless steel interior and
everything stuck to it. :-(

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And I don't know if you remember so looooong
ago I was looking for a glass pitcher container that had a top that
would not pick up smells from the frig. I think it was probably you
that gave me the link to the Italian one. When I got it today I was
even more pleased with the pitcher because the top when you twist it is
like a little suction vacuum - not like the other Italian pitchers made
by the same company. I don't know what made me take a chance on this one
by the same maker, but I did and came up a winner on it.
http://tinyurl.com/mwn43 I've never seen anything like it this top
fitting in my life -- it's made in Italy, too -- oh, those Italians, I
hope they never stop making their kitchen products.

Yes, I remember your quest for the pitcher. And, yes, I sent you a link,
but I can't remember if it was for this manufacturer. It does look
similar, though. I do recall that someone else also sent you a link.

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And I got the pie rings for the rolling pin. My next project -- good
pie crust WITHOUT vegetable shortening, but with lard and/or butter. Do
you think in pie crust recipes -- there must be trillions of fool-proof
ones, but I've never found one yet -- that if the instructions seemed
like one you could work with and that you could substitute lard for the
shortening, use it; or should one find one specifically written for
lard or lard and butter. Paula Deen likes to use shortening and butter.

I use exactly the same recipe, regardless of what fat I'm using. When I
use lard and/or butter, however, I put it in the freezer until quite cold,
then cut it into 1/2" dice. Using a pastry blender, I cut in half the fat
until the particles are about the size of chopped nuts. I cut in the
remainder until the particles are no smaller than a large green pea. I
find this contributes greatly to the flakiness.

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Again, you're the winner! I can just envision the camera set up for the
sale of your item. So darned folksy, you just have to buy it because
you know it's the genuine article.

This seller goes to a lot of trouble with her setups and they are all
attractive, but this was the only item I was interested in. I'm sure it
pays off, because everything looks so attractive.

I am always intrigued with older items that are listed as NOS (new old
stock - never used) or MIB (mint in box - mint condition in original
packaging). Several years ago I was adding to my collection of vacuum pot
coffee makers. I came across a seller who had bought an old
hardware/variety store that had been closed for over 30 years, with all the
original stock inside. I bought two brand new 1940s vintage vacuum pots,
both of which had all the original parts and packed in the original
cartons. That was quite a find! One is really beautiful, as the bowls
have a wide ruby glass pattered band around the middle bordered by thin
bands of 14k gold.

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Up all night tonight,

Poor you! I hate when that happens. :-( I awoke at 2:30am and discovered
by BG level had dropped to 46, so I ate a bowl of sliced bananas with a bit
of sugar and some fat-free cream while sitting here at the computer. I am
going off to bed now, as I have to get up at 5:00am to get ready for work.

Get some sleep!

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

I read that the difference between halogen and the one I

Quoted message said:

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have - the only difference -- is that there is a red light to show you
that it is on.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That is not the only difference. Conventional smoothtop elements are

either a wire-shaped coil or a flat ribbon shape, and both glow red when
turned on. Every flat top range I've had used one or the other of these,
but there was also a red light on the top surface to indicate when it was
on.

But not on mine, evidently because it is so old.

Quoted message said:

Halogen elements, OTOH, are actually strong halogen lamps underneath the
glass top. The major feature they offer is virtually an "instant on -
instant off" response compared to the gradual heating/cooling of the other
elements.

Here is the link to explain what I saw about the differences between halogen
and
http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com/applianceshvac/help-center/radiant-halogen.html

Here it is copied for those who might wish to see without linking up
The Difference between Radiant and Halogen
a.. Halogen and radiant elements are basically the same.

b.. They both use radiant energy to conduct heat to the cookware and food.

c.. The only difference is that halogen elements also have a halogen bulb
that circles their radiant element. It will light up instantly to show you
that the cooktop is turned on.

****

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Yes, I am excited, and anxious for it to arrive. The seller did set up
the
display nicely. The backdrop is actually a machine-made quilt. When I
worked as an interior designer back in the late 1960s - early 1970s, I
would sometimes order custom made quilts when I designed a bedroom. The
pattern is a variation on what is called "vermicelli" quilting. The
vermicelli pattern was used plain as in this display, but also used as a
"filler" pattern on fabrics with extremely large prints. Outline quilting
was done around the large pattern with the vermicelli filling in the
background.

Your talents are many. I admire these old quilts, too. I've tried my hand
at quilting, but it's just that -- something I have tried, but it has
created an appreciation for them. I didn't see that it was machine
quilted - you've a keen eye. There is a young woman here in Virginia that
has designed her quilts and machine quilted them. When I asked her how she
got that beautiful stitch, she said it was with an old Singer. (not the
pedal type, though -- one of the newer old ones, the ones that people now
know that 'they ain't what they used to be.'😉

The Cuisinart

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looks so much sturdier.

Yes, it is non-stick, but looks like it might be a thicker or harder surface
than the last one I had.
Even though I use proper tools, DH can ding the surface (even though he's
careful) . I do prefer stainless steel for high heat now, but if the
electrical goes hay-wire, it could easily be a worse situation than if it
were non-stick.

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I've never seen anything like it this top
fitting in my life -- it's made in Italy, too -- oh, those Italians, I
hope they never stop making their kitchen products.

Yes, I remember your quest for the pitcher. Here's the link that says

http://tinyurl.com/mwn43
Material : Glass body and plastic lid ( tight fitting, but not
completely airtight)

Note that it says "not completely airtight." I'm glad I took a chance on
it. Because here it is "hermetically sealed."
http://i2.tinypic.com/sl5jzm.jpg
You would think they would've described it better.

***

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I am always intrigued with older items that are listed as NOS (new old
stock - never used) or MIB (mint in box - mint condition in original
packaging). Several years ago I was adding to my collection of vacuum pot
coffee makers. I came across a seller who had bought an old
hardware/variety store that had been closed for over 30 years, with all
the
original stock inside. I bought two brand new 1940s vintage vacuum pots,
both of which had all the original parts and packed in the original
cartons. That was quite a find! One is really beautiful, as the bowls
have a wide ruby glass pattered band around the middle bordered by thin
bands of 14k gold.

Wayne, are you going to have room for your treasurers, or are you going to
have to buy a Costco shed? DH looks longingly at those sheds .... One shed
is enough.

***
I awoke at 2:30am and discovered

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by BG level had dropped to 46, so I ate a bowl of sliced bananas with a
bit
of sugar and some fat-free cream while sitting here at the computer.

Wayne, did I relate this? A fellow at fil's apartments came to dinner one
morning and sat beside me, didn't acknowledge me (he knows me well and is a
southern gentleman from Alabama or Mississippi) and was looking quite
disconcerted. I asked him if there was anything he needed, if I could help
him, and he was so thankful I asked. His reading was so low and he wanted
me to find him some jelly. The asst. manager was standing behind me at the
adjoining table pouring coffee when I stood up and asked him for some jelly.
He shouted "YELLY" "What's Yelly, I've never heard of it." All the people
were staring at us, I think waiting for a confrontation. Finally I said
JAM, JAM. He said, "Well, why didn't you say jam." Stunned over someone
not knowing what Jelly is, (even though he's Indian) I hastily explained
that Virgil had low blood sugar and he needed it fast. I wonder what
would've happened if I'd asked for YAM, YAM. I'm still laughing over this
episode, but of course, it was very frightening to me when it happened.

An aside: at the table at f-i-l's I think they like play "can you top this"
a little. They have little arguments over little things. DH was at
breakfast in CT this morning and he called me to ask me the name of a
Charles Aznavour (sp?) song, if it was really by him; obviously it was
another one of their important arguments. Virgil, the southern gentlemen,
is the only one that stays out of these arguments. Smart guy!

I don't know why I have so much trouble remembering Alabama from
Mississippi. I know you are from one or the other. Let me guess.
Mississippi?
Dee Dee

On Wed 29 Mar 2006 02:32:23p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
Randall?

Quoted message said:

I read that the difference between halogen and the one I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have - the only difference -- is that there is a red light to show you
that it is on.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That is not the only difference. Conventional smoothtop elements are

either a wire-shaped coil or a flat ribbon shape, and both glow red
when turned on. Every flat top range I've had used one or the other of
these, but there was also a red light on the top surface to indicate
when it was on.

But not on mine, evidently because it is so old.

Yes, that's certainly possible that yours does not have an indicator light.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Halogen elements, OTOH, are actually strong halogen lamps underneath
the glass top. The major feature they offer is virtually an "instant
on - instant off" response compared to the gradual heating/cooling of
the other elements.

Here is the link to explain what I saw about the differences between
halogen and
http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com/applianceshvac/help-center/radiant-h
alogen.html

Here it is copied for those who might wish to see without linking up
The Difference between Radiant and Halogen
a.. Halogen and radiant elements are basically the same.

b.. They both use radiant energy to conduct heat to the cookware and
food.

c.. The only difference is that halogen elements also have a halogen
bulb
that circles their radiant element. It will light up instantly to show
you that the cooktop is turned on.

I have to take strong exception to that. What they are describing is the use
of a halogen light to merely indicate whether or not a conventional element
is turned on. This is NOT a true halogen cooktop.

A true halogen cooktop uses ONLY a halogen bulb to produce the heat itself.
It also produces light which indicates whether or not the unit is on. There
is no other heating element involved.

It's no wonder people get confused!

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Yes, I am excited, and anxious for it to arrive. The seller did set up
the display nicely. The backdrop is actually a machine-made quilt.
When I worked as an interior designer back in the late 1960s - early
1970s, I would sometimes order custom made quilts when I designed a
bedroom. The pattern is a variation on what is called "vermicelli"
quilting. The vermicelli pattern was used plain as in this display,
but also used as a "filler" pattern on fabrics with extremely large
prints. Outline quilting was done around the large pattern with the
vermicelli filling in the background.

Your talents are many. I admire these old quilts, too. I've tried my
hand at quilting, but it's just that -- something I have tried, but it
has created an appreciation for them. I didn't see that it was
machine quilted - you've a keen eye. There is a young woman here in
Virginia that has designed her quilts and machine quilted them. When I
asked her how she got that beautiful stitch, she said it was with an old
Singer. (not the pedal type, though -- one of the newer old ones, the
ones that people now know that 'they ain't what they used to be.'😉

My maternal great-grandmother and both my grandmothers were prolific and
expert quilters. I learned to appreciate such quilts from early childhood.
When we lived in Ohio I once entered two of my maternal grandmother's quilts
in the Ohio State Fair, and both won blue ribbons in different quilt
categories. I'm lucky to have 6 or 7 of their heirloom quilts that date from
the 1930s and before. I also have newer ones that they made in the 1950s and
1960s. None of my stupid cousins ever wanted any, so I would up with most of
them. :-)

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The Cuisinart

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looks so much sturdier.

Yes, it is non-stick, but looks like it might be a thicker or harder
surface than the last one I had.
Even though I use proper tools, DH can ding the surface (even though
he's careful) . I do prefer stainless steel for high heat now, but if
the electrical goes hay-wire, it could easily be a worse situation than
if it were non-stick.

The only two non-stick pans in my kitchen are my electric frypan and my
omelette pan. For me that's a must, otherwise all my other pans are either
stainless steel, enameled cast iron, or plain cast iron. I've had exceptonal
luck with my omelette pan which has a Silverstone coating over cast aluminum.
I bought in the mid-1970s and it still looks and performs like new. Electric
skillets, OTOH, I have had to replace numerous times. Perhaps the next time
I'll try the Cuisinart like you bought.

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I've never seen anything like it this top
fitting in my life -- it's made in Italy, too -- oh, those Italians, I
hope they never stop making their kitchen products.

Yes, I remember your quest for the pitcher. Here's the link that says
http://tinyurl.com/mwn43

Material : Glass body and plastic lid ( tight fitting, but not
completely airtight)

Note that it says "not completely airtight." I'm glad I took a chance
on it. Because here it is "hermetically sealed."
http://i2.tinypic.com/sl5jzm.jpg
You would think they would've described it better.

I don't use pitchers much, or I would be very tempted to order some of these.
When I do use a pitcher it doesn't require a top, since I don't store
anything in them. I have an assortment of very old pottery and stoneware
pitchers that came from my family and I use those.

Quoted message said:

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I am always intrigued with older items that are listed as NOS (new old
stock - never used) or MIB (mint in box - mint condition in original
packaging). Several years ago I was adding to my collection of vacuum
pot coffee makers. I came across a seller who had bought an old
hardware/variety store that had been closed for over 30 years, with all
the original stock inside. I bought two brand new 1940s vintage vacuum
pots, both of which had all the original parts and packed in the
original cartons. That was quite a find! One is really beautiful, as
the bowls have a wide ruby glass pattered band around the middle
bordered by thin bands of 14k gold.

Wayne, are you going to have room for your treasurers, or are you going
to have to buy a Costco shed? DH looks longingly at those sheds ....
One shed is enough.

I hope I'm right, but I think we have exceptional display and storage areas
in the new house. I've managed to have this in most houses I've owned, but
not in this present rental. It's horrible! We will have a shed, I think 12
x 15 feet, but that will be for mostly outdoor items.

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I awoke at 2:30am and discovered

Quoted message said:

by BG level had dropped to 46, so I ate a bowl of sliced bananas with a
bit of sugar and some fat-free cream while sitting here at the
computer.

Wayne, did I relate this? A fellow at fil's apartments came to dinner
one morning and sat beside me, didn't acknowledge me (he knows me well
and is a southern gentleman from Alabama or Mississippi) and was
looking quite disconcerted. I asked him if there was anything he
needed, if I could help him, and he was so thankful I asked. His
reading was so low and he wanted me to find him some jelly. The asst.
manager was standing behind me at the adjoining table pouring coffee
when I stood up and asked him for some jelly. He shouted "YELLY" "What's
Yelly, I've never heard of it." All the people were staring at us, I
think waiting for a confrontation. Finally I said JAM, JAM. He said,
"Well, why didn't you say jam." Stunned over someone not knowing what
Jelly is, (even though he's Indian) I hastily explained that Virgil had
low blood sugar and he needed it fast. I wonder what would've happened
if I'd asked for YAM, YAM. I'm still laughing over this episode, but of
course, it was very frightening to me when it happened.

Poor Virgil! One thing I fear about getting very old is being at the mercy
of people who either don't understand or care. It's a very unpleasant
prospect. He was very lucky you were there.

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An aside: at the table at f-i-l's I think they like play "can you top
this" a little. They have little arguments over little things. DH was
at breakfast in CT this morning and he called me to ask me the name of a
Charles Aznavour (sp?) song, if it was really by him; obviously it was
another one of their important arguments. Virgil, the southern
gentlemen, is the only one that stays out of these arguments. Smart guy!

LOL! Yes, smart guy, that Virgil!

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I don't know why I have so much trouble remembering Alabama from
Mississippi. I know you are from one or the other. Let me guess.
Mississippi?

Yes, you remember Mississippi correctly, as that's what I've written before.
Actually, both my parents' families knew each other from the time they both
arrived in the US from England in the mid 1700s. I have letters written
between the families dating back as early as the 1770s. They both originally
settled in North Carolina, then over the years migrated to Alabama, and
finally to Mississippi at the end of the Civil War. In the case of my
grandparents' generation, 3 brothers from my dad's side of the family married
3 sisters from my mother's side of the family. That was the first time there
had been a marriage between the two families. Somewhere in there that leaves
me with an assortment of double-cousins. Much earlier, around 1795, one my
ancestors was married to a sister of Rachel Jackson, Andrew Jackson's wife
who died before he was inaugurated.

So much for history! :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________