Planet Bike Freddy Fenders clip-on or Hardcore?

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  1. Grl

    Grl Guest

    After a good soaking/grime coating of my bike and back-side yesterday on a road ride in a rain
    torrent, I've decided to get a set of Planet Bike Freddy Fenders.

    They come in two flavors: Hardcore fixed mount (well reviewed in the press) and a clip-on
    style. I'd prefer the clip-on style and wonder if anyone would care to share their experience
    with that version.

    I'm interested in effectiveness, durability, and easy of removal/mounting.

    - GRL

    "It's good to want things."

    Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist, chemist, Visual Basic programmer)
     
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  2. "GRL" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > After a good soaking/grime coating of my bike and back-side yesterday on a road ride in a rain
    > torrent, I've decided to get a set of Planet Bike Freddy Fenders.
    >
    > They come in two flavors: Hardcore fixed mount (well reviewed in the press) and a clip-on style.
    > I'd prefer the clip-on style and wonder if anyone would care to share their experience with that
    > version.
    >
    > I'm interested in effectiveness, durability, and easy of removal/mounting.

    I use the Hardcore sort. Effective. Good-looking. Easy to mount. Dismounting is less easy, but this
    is a bike that I don't disassemble, ever, so not a serious consideration.

    Get them. they're good.

    [BTW, has anybody out there tried mounting a fender-mount taillight setup on the Planet Bike Freddy
    Fenders hardcore? contemplating doing that someday, but unsure as to how to proceed]

    -Luigi -Luigi
     
  3. Bernie

    Bernie Guest

    Luigi de Guzman wrote:

    > "GRL" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > After a good soaking/grime coating of my bike and back-side yesterday on a road ride in a rain
    > > torrent, I've decided to get a set of Planet Bike Freddy Fenders.
    > >
    > > They come in two flavors: Hardcore fixed mount (well reviewed in the press) and a clip-on style.
    > > I'd prefer the clip-on style and wonder if anyone would care to share their experience with that
    > > version.
    > >
    > > I'm interested in effectiveness, durability, and easy of removal/mounting.
    >
    > I use the Hardcore sort. Effective. Good-looking. Easy to mount. Dismounting is less easy, but
    > this is a bike that I don't disassemble, ever, so not a serious consideration.
    >
    > Get them. they're good.
    >
    > [BTW, has anybody out there tried mounting a fender-mount taillight setup on the Planet Bike
    > Freddy Fenders hardcore? contemplating doing that someday, but unsure as to how to proceed]
    >
    > -Luigi -Luigi

    Luigi, nope I just hang a blinkie on the back of my rack trunk. I answer you in basic prose, if I
    tried rhyme you'd twist my nose. ;-}

    re: clip on fenders, I used a pair "Hebie" brand? for a couple of years. They weren't awful, in fact
    they were durable, still have them, still in good shape. They have the drawback that seems to apply
    to all clip on fenders. They are a bit short, so you still get some spray. Hardware fenders like
    "Freddie Fenders" wrap around the wheel further, and have a little mudflap too. Best regards, Bernie
     
  4. Tom Keats

    Tom Keats Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, "GRL" <[email protected]> writes:
    > After a good soaking/grime coating of my bike and back-side yesterday on a road ride in a rain
    > torrent, I've decided to get a set of Planet Bike Freddy Fenders.
    >
    > They come in two flavors: Hardcore fixed mount (well reviewed in the press)

    That's what I've got on a couple of my bikes. Also a similar pair of metallized plastic Mt. Zefal
    full fenders on my most recent fixer-upper.

    > and a clip-on style. I'd prefer the clip-on style and wonder if anyone would care to share their
    > experience with that version.

    I haven't dealt with Freddy Fender clip-ons. But I *have* dealt with cheap-o, shorty Mt Zefals. In a
    word, they suck. Not enough coverage, but what was worse: the front fender hung on an L-shaped
    bracket off the front brake bolt. No other securing.

    Eventually, the L-shaped bracket snapped, from the fender vibrating and getting toe-overlapped so
    much. The front fender clattered to the asphalt, and as I turned around and rode back to clean-up my
    offal off the street, a bunch of on-lookers were pleased to inform me that I had just lost a fender.

    Whatever kind of fender you get: it needs more than one mount point.

    The "hardcore" Freddy Fenders go all the way down, and that's a big help toward keeping a clean
    (well, less gritty) chain in the rain.

    If you get the full fenders with the eyelet struts -- don't forget to periodically check the
    hardware for tightness. It has a way of working loose, just like old-style nutted axles.

    If you have threaded eyelets, and the rear, drive-side screw is so long as to poke into the rear
    cogs & chain, you can just space it back with washers, if you don't have the wherewithal to grind it
    to proper length.

    cheers, Tom

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  5. Bernie

    Bernie Guest

    Tom Keats wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>, "GRL" <[email protected]> writes:
    > > After a good soaking/grime coating of my bike and back-side yesterday on a road ride in a rain
    > > torrent, I've decided to get a set of Planet Bike Freddy Fenders.
    > >
    > > They come in two flavors: Hardcore fixed mount (well reviewed in the press)
    >
    > That's what I've got on a couple of my bikes. Also a similar pair of metallized plastic Mt. Zefal
    > full fenders on my most recent fixer-upper.
    >
    > > and a clip-on style. I'd prefer the clip-on style and wonder if anyone would care to share their
    > > experience with that version.
    >
    > I haven't dealt with Freddy Fender clip-ons. But I *have* dealt with cheap-o, shorty Mt Zefals. In
    > a word, they suck. Not enough coverage, but what was worse: the front fender hung on an L-shaped
    > bracket off the front brake bolt. No other securing.
    >
    > Eventually, the L-shaped bracket snapped, from the fender vibrating and getting toe-overlapped
    > so much. The front fender clattered to the asphalt, and as I turned around and rode back to
    > clean-up my offal off the street, a bunch of on-lookers were pleased to inform me that I had
    > just lost a fender.
    >
    > Whatever kind of fender you get: it needs more than one mount point.
    >
    > The "hardcore" Freddy Fenders go all the way down, and that's a big help toward keeping a clean
    > (well, less gritty) chain in the rain.
    >
    > If you get the full fenders with the eyelet struts -- don't forget to periodically check the
    > hardware for tightness. It has a way of working loose, just like old-style nutted axles.
    >
    > If you have threaded eyelets, and the rear, drive-side screw is so long as to poke into the rear
    > cogs & chain, you can just space it back with washers, if you don't have the wherewithal to grind
    > it to proper length.
    >
    > cheers, Tom
    >
    > --
    > -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn
    > [point] bc [point] ca

    Tom I agree 100% on the fenders issue. Side issue: did you find those little oily fish? Bernie
     
  6. >If you get the full fenders with the eyelet struts -- don't forget to periodically check the
    >hardware for tightness. It has a way of working loose, just like old-style nutted axles.

    Blue Loctite that fender hardware, it'll keep everything in sync.

    Only thing I can add other than that is to use Real Metal (tm) fasteners, I don't care what they say
    about zipties, they die in cold weather when you have a bunch of snow jammed under the fender.

    >If you have threaded eyelets, and the rear, drive-side screw is so long as to poke into the rear
    >cogs & chain, you can just space it back with washers, if you don't have the wherewithal to grind
    >it to proper length.

    Good point.

    Or you can just get the proper length metric cap screw (see I know a technical term) from your local
    well-stocked hardware store.

    Stainless, of course.

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  7. Tom Keats

    Tom Keats Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, Bernie <[email protected]> writes:

    > Tom I agree 100% on the fenders issue.

    Fenders that mount only at one point are doomed to breaking off.

    > Side issue: did you find those little oily fish?

    No, but my cravings, as usual, metamorphosed. I was extremely able to deal with my most recent
    hankerings for beef & tomato on rice yesterday; and today, chicken and black bean sauce on chow fun
    noodles w/ two kinds of mushrooms.

    Good stuff for > stored power ... < weight gain.

    Some Asian recipes provide more nutritional balance in one dish, than a lot of "Western" stuff.

    cheers, Tom

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  8. In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

    > >If you have threaded eyelets, and the rear, drive-side screw is so long as to poke into the rear
    > >cogs & chain, you can just space it back with washers, if you don't have the wherewithal to grind
    > >it to proper length.
    >
    > Good point.
    >
    > Or you can just get the proper length metric cap screw (see I know a technical term) from your
    > local well-stocked hardware store.

    Get a more-than-long-enough button-head stainless screw and thread it through the eyelet from the
    inside out, secure it with a thin jam nut and blue locktite.

    Slip the fender strut over the threaded stud sticking out of the frame, and secure with a stainless
    metric wing-nut.

    As secure as standard fender mounting, almost as fast to remove as clip- on fenders.

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  9. Tom Keats

    Tom Keats Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, "Eric S. Sande" <[email protected]> writes:

    ...

    > I don't care what they say about zipties, they die in cold weather when you have a bunch of snow
    > jammed under the fender.
    >
    >>If you have threaded eyelets, and the rear, drive-side screw is so long as to poke into the rear
    >>cogs & chain, you can just space it back with washers, if you don't have the wherewithal to grind
    >>it to proper length.
    >
    > Good point.
    >
    > Or you can just get the proper length metric cap screw (see I know a technical term) from your
    > local well-stocked hardware store.
    >
    > Stainless, of course.

    Aahhh (sigh of Understanding).

    Zip ties have their place -- like holding generator -> headlight wiring down to the frame.

    But I'm pleased to acknowledge that you understand how the right hardware for the right purpose is
    so apropos.

    I guess I might sound like Fabrizio, but it ain't so. Fabrizio hates Mountain Equipment Co-Op
    jerseys, even though they do the job well.

    I hate bent-over nails in screen door hinges, even though they do the same job as properly-installed
    screws in the same places.

    Okay -- bad example. Darn it, I can't think of a better one.

    Yikes! I'm a Fabrizio within my own private Idaho!

    Maybe we /all/ are ...

    cheers, Tom

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  10. Bernie

    Bernie Guest

    Tom Keats wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>, Bernie <[email protected]> writes:
    >
    > > Tom I agree 100% on the fenders issue.
    >
    > Fenders that mount only at one point are doomed to breaking off.
    >
    > > Side issue: did you find those little oily fish?
    >
    > No, but my cravings, as usual, metamorphosed. I was extremely able to deal with my most recent
    > hankerings for beef & tomato on rice yesterday; and today, chicken and black bean sauce on chow
    > fun noodles w/ two kinds of mushrooms.
    >
    > Good stuff for > stored power ... < weight gain.
    >
    > Some Asian recipes provide more nutritional balance in one dish, than a lot of "Western" stuff.
    >
    > cheers, Tom
    >
    > --
    > -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn
    > [point] bc [point] ca

    Cheers! The "one pan meal" thing works. Best regards, Bernie
     
  11. Grl

    Grl Guest

    Turns out a local bike shop sells both types at very nice prices ($12 for clip-on and $22 for
    permanent mount). I looked over both types and bought the permanent mount, although the clip-on
    would have been nearly as good, I think.

    These fenders are very high quality plastic with intelligent and easy mounting. They are light and
    quite effective. Also look darned good and give the bike a serious weather-no-object transportation
    tool look as opposed to the fair-weather toy look of a fenderless bike.

    The more Planet Bike stuff I buy the more impressed I am with the company.

    --

    - GRL

    "It's good to want things."

    Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist, chemist, Visual Basic programmer)
    "GRL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > After a good soaking/grime coating of my bike and back-side yesterday on a road ride in a rain
    > torrent, I've decided to get a set of Planet Bike
    Freddy
    > Fenders.
    >
    > They come in two flavors: Hardcore fixed mount (well reviewed in the
    press)
    > and a clip-on style. I'd prefer the clip-on style and wonder if anyone
    would
    > care to share their experience with that version.
    >
    > I'm interested in effectiveness, durability, and easy of removal/mounting.
    >
    >
    > - GRL
    >
    > "It's good to want things."
    >
    > Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist, chemist, Visual Basic programmer)
     
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