Please follow the rules of the road

Discussion in 'Road Cycling' started by Even Steven, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. Even Steven

    Even Steven New Member

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    The initial post was intended to be a reminder to all cyclists in general. And what you said does make sense, but you have to understand that it works both ways. In other words, my post didn't point to anyone specific, so some of the reactions here seem to have been taken far too personally. There's nothing wrong with generalizing when it comes to safety on the roads because it affects all of us. As for anyone taking my words as "scolding" them, well, that's just silly. My initial post was calmy written without pointing a finger at anyone specific. I posted the same exact thread on another forum and quite a few of the members there agreed with me and actually supported what I wrote. In fact, some of them thanked me for creating the thread. Of course I got some similar reactions/responses similar to the majority here, but I'm guessing the members on the other forum are either older and have more experience as road cyclists because they were much more receptive overall compared to the folks here.

    Now I guess I should just wait to be flamed for saying the members of the other forum are more mature....so predictable!
     


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    Why is it so hard to admit you acted aggressively by blaring the horn during the entire pass of the cyclists? You were pissed off because of the inconvenience, and the blaring horn allowed you to vent your anger. The fact that it may have warned (scared) the cyclists of your presence is strictly a secondary effect, as I'm sure it also warned stray dogs and cats in the area. No, there was only one real "purpose" for your action: retaliation for being wronged.

    And that, in a nutshell, is why you will gain little symphony from most people on a cycling forum.
     
  3. qdc15

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    Please follow the rules of the road - Page 5 Are you suggesting your dangerous and illegal actions were motivated by reason?? Excuse me for thinking you were impatient but I can't think of another reason for your actions.

    Have you considered my thoughts on a driver's ability to remain rational when stuck in traffic? Do you think that would be a valuable skill for you to learn?
     
  4. davereo

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    Did the thought ever enter your mind that this line of traffic behind the cyclist were motorist acting responsibly. This major inconvenience most likely set you back five minutes in your day. You have now wasted several hours of your life trying to justify your actions. Your behavior is the only thing you had control of in this situation you failed to do so. You have no control over anyone else never mind a 100 cyclist so you should just drop it.
     
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  5. Even Steven

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    How about you don't tell me why I did something or how I felt about it? Okay? You can ask me and I'll be more than happy to tell you (which I've already done several times), but if you think I was angry and honked the horn out of anger, you're dead wrong and your ignorance is astounding.

    If you want to think you know more than I do about why I did something or how I felt about it, then we have nothing left to talk about.
     
  6. Even Steven

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    My actions would have never taken place at all if not for the actions of the cyclists. That's an undeniable fact. Sorry if you can't wrap you head around that very simple concept.
     
  7. Even Steven

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    Wrong on all accounts:

    1- The line of traffic wasn't constant. Motorists were passing the cyclists one by one when they dared. Like I said, it wasn't the safest situation, so some motorists waited longer than others to pass. I witnessed several of them pass before I passed, and some of them were visibly angry based on their speed and proximity to the cyclists. So basically, I'd say that none of the motorists acted responsibly since they all passed illegally. What amazed me is that the cyclists continued their behavior after being intentionally buzzed by a few cars.

    2- I didn't have to be anywhere, so I wasn't worried about how much time I was set back. This was New Years Day, so no work to worry about and no time constraints. At the same time, it's not fun driving 15 mph for mile after mile because a bunch of cyclists are blocking the road.

    3- I haven't wasted a single minute of my life on this forum or any other. My thread isn't a waste of my time at all. It has a purpose and it has served it's purpose well as far as I'm concerned. And I've said this before, but I guess I should say it again for those of you who just can't seem to get it--I'm not justifying my actions. I make no apologies for the way I behaved. I'd do the same thing tomorrow whether you (or anyone else) likes it or not.

    4- Of course I controlled my behavior. I made a choice. That's choice was under my control. Like I said, I'd do it all again, the same exact way.

    Your entire post is full of fallacies and misconceptions about me and about the events that transpired that particular day.
     
  8. Even Steven

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    Is this a regional forum? If not, how do you know that there aren't any NY cyclists who are members here? And how do you know none of them were on that particular group ride?
     
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    Then scoot off back to your hole then. You're obviously making no connections here. Toodles.
     
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    I feel that my post has more merit than anything you have posted as of yet.

    How do you know the other motorist were angry?
    Five minute inconvenience.
    Your wasting your time.
    You acted irresponsibly.
    There's no way in hell you are going to change the behavior of 100 cyclist.
     
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    Bla bla bla blah, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz, give it a rest already damn this whole thing is just getting on my tits now, how old are you people come on...it feels like we have gone back to kindergarten
     
  12. alienator

    alienator Well-Known Member

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    Here's the easy fix: don't read it. That will keep your tits from getting sore.
     
  13. ambal

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    Why post here about this if you don't want to be challenged? Not everyone sitting in traffic is pissed off with the world and wants to kill cyclists, most are patient, others deal with it, very few get pissed enough to post about it on the interweb.
     
  14. Even Steven

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    Connections? That's funny. You obviously don't get it.
     
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    I don't mind discussing this with anyone who participates. It's not about being challenged. But don't tell me why I did something and/or how I felt about it because nobody knows that except me.

    And are you suggesting that I wanted to kill cyclists? Seriously?

    By the way, the only people here who seem even a little pissed off are the few members who respond by saying that I am "venting my rage" by posting here. Yet I haven't posted a single thing that would indicate rage to any intelligent person.
     
  17. alienator

    alienator Well-Known Member

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    I'm willing to bet your not a cyclist, and if you do ride, it's very rarely.

    You should also lean the very simple technique for quoting people in the forum. It's really easy, and doesn't require the use of a red font. My daughter's 14, and she could have figured it out on her own several years ago.
     
  18. Even Steven

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    You'd lose that bet. I ride regularly, even in the winter when conditions permit. There's never been a time in my life when I didn't ride, at least since I got my first bike at 5 years of age. Years ago I shifted much more towards trails than roads, but cyclist is a cyclist, no matter what terrain we ride.

    As for quotation technique, it's my choice. If you don't like it, then don't read it. That's your choice.
     
  19. Even Steven

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    By the way, I'm riding later today with some friends on some local rail trails. It's a nice sunny day here in NY and there's no rain in the forecast. Plus it has been quite mild for the season. Anyway, lucky for us, we have some really decent rail trails around here. We're starting off in Northvale NJ and riding up to the end of the trail in Haverstraw NY. Then we turn around and ride back. It's only 30 or 35 miles (something like that), but it's 95% trails and very little road riding.
     
  20. alienator

    alienator Well-Known Member

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    Well, you've certainly built credibility here, so there's no doubt everyone will believe what you say. You've been such a valuable forum member so far, what with only being able to contribute to a single thread.

    Here's a picture that sums up this thread:

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    And here's what cyclists think every time they hear a motorist lay on the horn:
     
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