Please, I need basic bike buying advice

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  1. Bud

    Bud Guest

    I'm in the market for a bike. I'm a male in my early thirties, in pretty good shape, and I have not
    owned a bike in the last 12 years or so, so I'm totally out of what good/hot and what's not. My last
    bike was a 5-speed Schwinn. I'm probably looking for a basic but decent road bike built by a
    reputable manufacturer. It will be used mostly for joy riding around town and on paved park trails.
    I think I'd like a 5-speed again. Super-light bikes and other mega-performance considerations are
    not that important, although I wouldn't mind a little sporty-ness to it.

    What should I consider? Which manufacturers are big now? What do you recommend?

    Thanks.
     
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  2. B. Sanders

    B. Sanders Guest

    "Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I'm in the market for a bike. I'm a male in my early thirties, in pretty good shape, and I have
    > not owned a bike in the last 12 years or so, so I'm totally out of what good/hot and what's not.
    > My last bike was a 5-speed Schwinn. I'm probably looking for a basic but decent road bike built by
    > a reputable manufacturer. It will be used mostly for joy riding around town and on paved park
    > trails. I think I'd like a 5-speed again. Super-light bikes and other mega-performance
    > considerations are not that important, although I wouldn't mind a little sporty-ness to it.

    Define "sportyness." What does this mean to you?

    Do you want to sit upright, for a better view, or do you prefer a lower, faster riding stance?

    "Superlight" and "light" are worlds apart in price; but not very different in weight (oddly enough).
    I recommend something like the Bianchi Strada - basically a road bike with flat handlebars like.
    It's going to be very fast (almost as fast as a road bike). It will accept 700x32c treaded tires for
    riding the limestone trails, and will serve as a road bike with drop bars should you decide you want
    some more speed on the smooth roads.

    As for what kind of frame material: I would go with steel, because it's both cheaper and more
    comfortable than aluminum (in the price range that you're likely to be considering, that is).

    If you choose a bike with fender and rack eyelets on the frame and fork, then you can easily bolt on
    a cargo rack and use your new bike to get groceries or haul books from the library, or take your kid
    for a ride. Most road bikes and many mountain bikes do not have rack and fender eyelets.

    > What should I consider? Which manufacturers are big now? What do you recommend?

    Choose a bike from area bike shops. Whatever brands they carry, that's what you should choose. Don't
    buy a bike from an online retailer or Ebay - getting the correct fit, and having a shop stand behind
    your purchase is very important for your overall enjoyment of the sport.

    -Barry
     
  3. "Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I'm in the market for a bike.

    The division one team Euskaltel-Euskadi are using Columbus's top of the line Starship tubed Orbea
    frames, you can get these in the Euskaltel or Pro Mediteranium finish.

    Just remember, for the best looking frame never buy one that measures more than 52cm from the center
    of the bottom bracket to the center of the top tube.
     
  4. Mike Kruger

    Mike Kruger Guest

    "Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I'm in the market for a bike. I'm a male in my early thirties, in pretty good shape, and I have
    > not owned a bike in the last 12 years or so, so I'm totally out of what good/hot and what's not.
    > My last bike was a 5-speed Schwinn. I'm probably looking for a basic but decent road bike built by
    > a reputable manufacturer. It will be used mostly for joy riding around town and on paved park
    > trails. I think I'd like a 5-speed again. Super-light bikes and other mega-performance
    > considerations are not that important, although I wouldn't mind a little sporty-ness to it.
    >
    Schwinn: not big now, except at Walmart. Some good brands: Trek, Specialized, Bianchi, Lemond,
    Raleigh, Giant; there are others

    You won't find 5 speeds anymore. It's hard to tell from your post whether you want a "road bike"
    (drop handlebars) or a bike to ride on the road (including, say, hybrids or even a mountain bike
    with slick tires). These others would have flat handlebars.

    Best bet would be to find a nearby bike shop where you can get some good advice and test out some
    models. (This won't, alas, work if you are 6'3" like me, because there will be little in inventory
    that will fit. It also won't work if you walk into a store that doesn't carry a single "road bike"
    any more.) If you live near an REI store, that might be a good choice because they carry a variety
    of types of road bikes that are priced pretty well.

    One important consideration is whether you have friends you are likely to ride with; if so, a bike
    of the same general style as theirs is a good choice.
     
  5. Royce Smith

    Royce Smith Guest

    "Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I'm in the market for a bike.

    > What should I consider? Which manufacturers are big now? What do you recommend?

    Giant makes a good entry level bike (OCR-3) for $600.
     
  6. Waxxer

    Waxxer Guest

    This is really good advice. Also stay away from low end or volume sales shops. Mike J will do a
    great job for you at Chain Reaction. Also check Palo Alto Bicycle and Cupertino bicycle--if your in
    this geography, (bay area). "B. Sanders" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > I'm in the market for a bike. I'm a male in my early thirties, in
    pretty
    > > good shape, and I have not owned a bike in the last 12 years or so, so
    I'm
    > > totally out of what good/hot and what's not. My last bike was a 5-speed Schwinn. I'm probably
    > > looking for a basic but decent road bike built by
    a
    > > reputable manufacturer. It will be used mostly for joy riding around
    town
    > > and on paved park trails. I think I'd like a 5-speed again.
    Super-light
    > > bikes and other mega-performance considerations are not that important, although I wouldn't mind
    > > a little sporty-ness to it.
    >
    > Define "sportyness." What does this mean to you?
    >
    > Do you want to sit upright, for a better view, or do you prefer a lower, faster riding stance?
    >
    > "Superlight" and "light" are worlds apart in price; but not very different in weight (oddly
    > enough). I recommend something like the Bianchi Strada - basically a road bike with flat
    > handlebars like. It's going to be very
    fast
    > (almost as fast as a road bike). It will accept 700x32c treaded tires for riding the limestone
    > trails, and will serve as a road bike with drop bars should you decide you want some more speed on
    > the smooth roads.
    >
    > As for what kind of frame material: I would go with steel, because it's both cheaper and more
    > comfortable than aluminum (in the price range that you're likely to be considering, that is).
    >
    > If you choose a bike with fender and rack eyelets on the frame and fork, then you can easily bolt
    > on a cargo rack and use your new bike to get groceries or haul books from the library, or take
    > your kid for a ride.
    Most
    > road bikes and many mountain bikes do not have rack and fender eyelets.
    >
    > > What should I consider? Which manufacturers are big now? What do you recommend?
    >
    > Choose a bike from area bike shops. Whatever brands they carry, that's
    what
    > you should choose. Don't buy a bike from an online retailer or Ebay - getting the correct fit,
    > and having a shop stand behind your purchase is very important for your overall enjoyment of
    > the sport.
    >
    > -Barry
     
  7. Jim Edgar

    Jim Edgar Guest

    waxxer at [email protected] wrote on 3/18/03 7:34 PM:

    > This is really good advice. Also stay away from low end or volume sales shops. Mike J will do a
    > great job for you at Chain Reaction. Also check Palo Alto Bicycle and Cupertino bicycle--if your
    > in this geography, (bay area).

    Even if you aren't in the South Bay Area, go to their website for an excellent article on "How to
    Test Ride" a bicycle.

    Here's the direct link:

    http://www.chainreaction.com/roadbiketestrides.htm

    Good luck!

    - Jim
     
  8. Mike Kruger

    Mike Kruger Guest

    "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > Just remember, for the best looking frame never buy one that measures more than 52cm from the
    > center of the bottom bracket to the center of the top tube.

    Yes, far better to have that surgery to shorten your legs than have to ride a 62 cm frame that fits
    your current body.

    ;)
     
  9. B. Sanders

    B. Sanders Guest

    "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > I'm in the market for a bike.
    >
    > The division one team Euskaltel-Euskadi are using Columbus's top of the line Starship tubed Orbea
    > frames, you can get these in the Euskaltel or Pro Mediteranium finish.
    >
    > Just remember, for the best looking frame never buy one that measures more than 52cm from the
    > center of the bottom bracket to the center of the top tube.

    Don't mind the troll. (He thinks this is cute.)

    -B
     
  10. "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > I'm in the market for a bike.
    >
    > The division one team Euskaltel-Euskadi are using Columbus's top of the line Starship tubed Orbea
    > frames, you can get these in the Euskaltel or Pro Mediteranium finish.
    >

    GORA EUSKADI!

    man. If only I could but aspire to the coolness that is Euskaltel/Euskadi. I was rooting for them in
    the Tour last year. Kinda hoped that Zubeldia would take the white jersey, but ah well.

    You have to admit, though--Euskadi has the best fans.

    -Luigi
     
  11. "B. Sanders" <[email protected]> .org...
    >> Don't mind the troll. (He thinks this is cute.)
    >

    Good eye there Sanders, I never picked up on the fact that Bud's post was in fact just troll bait.

    Anyway, aren't you the recumbent rider type?
     
  12. "Luigi de Guzman" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    > GORA EUSKADI! Kinda hoped that Zubeldia would take the white jersey, but ah well.
    >

    Well I'm more that just a little bit bitter over the fact that Julian Gorospe signed Dioni
    Galparsoro instead of me, and what are Julian and Ruben Gorospe thinking when they keep someone like
    Egoi Martinez de Esteban on the payroll when he only has a lousy 12 UCI points?

    Anyway, I would have had second thoughts about signing a one or two year pro contract with a team
    that has that much orange in their team kit.
     
  13. "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Just remember, for the best looking frame never buy one that measures more than 52cm from the
    > center of the bottom bracket to the center of the top tube.
    >

    Is it Ok to cut out part of the middle of the measuring tape and joining it back with rubber in such
    a way that it always measures 52 cm?

    --
    Perre

    Replace the DOTs to reply
     
  14. Fabrizio Mazzoleni wrote:

    > Anyway, I would have had second thoughts about signing a one or two year pro contract with a team
    > that has that much orange in their team kit.

    What colors would be most desireable when considering team memberships?

    I'm not a racing man myself, and I'd no doubt would look the real Fred on my Trek-520 (it's a pretty
    cool green color though), when biking with the local club, but I must say I've found myself thinking
    that might be a good move because their club jerseys are a very nice combo of light and dark blue.

    Orange would seem to be second class (a cry for attention, not display of cycling competence), but
    the light/dark blue combo just screams "attack and mangle" to me.

    I'm really out of my element here. What's the Euro-Pro take on this Fab?

    SMH
     
  15. Alex Colvin

    Alex Colvin Guest

    >> Anyway, I would have had second thoughts about signing a one or two year pro contract with a team
    >> that has that much orange in their team kit.

    >What colors would be most desireable when considering team memberships?

    any teams that just wrap the tubes in black electrical tape.
    --
    mac the naïf
     
  16. "Stephen Harding" <[email protected]> wrote in message u...
    >
    > > What colors would be most desireable when considering team
    > memberships?

    Don't worry about the colour too much, just make very sure the jersey looks pro and then build the
    rest of your kit around that.

    For instance, I've gone really heavy on Kelme kit because it fits in great with my jersey.

    Don't worry if you get last year's pro kit, just don't go retro and end up looking like LeMond by
    wearing old ADR/Agrigel stuff from the late '80s.

    Once you do this you will notice a nice change in yourself and will from then on look down on
    recreational rider 'types' and point out other riders lack of form.

    You should be able to wein about 85% of your riding buddies out of your life, they just didn't make
    the cut. In fact, I'm still improving and already this season three people I trained with last year
    don't feel good enough to ride with me anymore!

    And the best for last, just watch the reaction you get from female car drivers, it's a wonderful
    feeling when you make it.

    On my last training session yesterday I scored a really nice double take from a women driving one of
    those new imports with that little wing thing on the trunk lid.
     
  17. Fabrizio Mazzoleni wrote:

    > Don't worry if you get last year's pro kit, just don't go retro and end up looking like LeMond by
    > wearing old ADR/Agrigel stuff from the late '80s.

    Although we know you can pull it off, don't you think it's irresponsible to encourage others to go
    with dated gear? Not everyone can make a CAAD2 look good, after all.

    --
    Benjamin Lewis

    Marriage causes dating problems.
     
  18. "Benjamin Lewis" <[email protected]> .

    >
    > Although we know you can pull it off, don't you think it's irresponsible
    to
    > encourage others to go with dated gear? Not everyone can make a CAAD2
    look
    > good, after all.

    An elite level roadie should be able to make it work riding 6061-T6 AL, power pyramid downtube,
    butted and swagged chainstays, but if you just can't cut it, then yes, you may have to go up to
    Cannondale's new Optimo tubing and 90 gram hourglass seatstays.
     
  19. On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:58:07 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email protected]> from Shaw Residential
    Internet wrote:

    >
    >"Stephen Harding" <[email protected]> wrote in message u...
    >>
    >> > What colors would be most desireable when considering team
    >> memberships?
    >
    >Don't worry about the colour too much, just make very sure the jersey looks pro and then build the
    >rest of your kit around that.

    Also, make sure there's no stomach pushing out the jersey over the elastic waistband of the shorts.
    Nothing says Fred louder than a belly.

    --
    http://home.sport.rr.com/cuthulu/ human rights = peace The Osmonds! You are all Osmonds!! Throwing
    up on a freeway at dawn!!!
    1:14:56 PM 20 March 2003
     
  20. "Per Elmsäter" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    > Is it Ok to cut out part of the middle of the measuring tape and joining
    it
    > back with rubber in such a way that it always measures 52 cm?

    You just can't hide the poor looks of a large frame, it's all in the top tube- down tube - head tube
    junction area. It just look's dorky having all that dead space made up by the head tube, and a large
    frame causes the head tube angle to go to 73 or 74 degrees from the better looking 72 degrees.

    Take a couple of my peers for example, Axel Merckx and George Hincapie. These two insist on riding
    those silly large frames every year.

    Axel dropped out of this year's Paris-Nice on stage 6 while being buried way back in 25th place,
    even someone like Alexandre Botcharov of team Ag2R Prevoyance was ahead of him in the standings.
    I'll tell you with the training I've done this winter 25 back at that race wouldn't be making me
    very happy, and the day Botcharov beats me in a 2.HC race will be the day I retire. Axel isn't even
    riding in this weekend's Milan-San Remo.

    George is out of action because of a viral infection! George hasn't really done anything worth
    talking about since he won the San Francisco Grand Prix way back in '01.
     
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