Police cruiser kills bicyclist



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Michael Press

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In article <[email protected]>,
Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> # On a good weekend, thousands of cyclists cruise the winding road
> >> # leading to Stevens Creek Reservoir, said cyclist Steve Paterson, 49,
> >> # of Cupertino, as he was turned away from a road block near Ricardo
> >> # Road set up because of the crash.
> >>
> >> # "There are so many rides up here," he said. "Club rides, sponsored
> >> # rides, groups of friends."
> >>
> >> # It's unclear whether the cyclists involved in the crash were riding
> >> # as part of larger group, Morrissey said.
> >>
> >> # Local cyclists noted that riders in large groups will sometimes ride
> >> # two-abreast. The practice is not illegal but can be extremely
> >> # dangerous on narrow, winding roads with a large amount of traffic.
> >>
> >> # It was unclear if the cyclists involved in this crash were doing so,
> >> # Thibodeau said. But cyclists said they've seen dangerous behavior
> >> # from those on both two-wheels and four.
> >>
> >> # "I've seen bicyclists who ride crazy," Paterson said. "And I've seen
> >> # cars that go too fast."

> >
> > This is so unnecessary and so out of place that it
> > qualifies as lying, and pandering to bigotry and hate.
> >

> The above response contains so many indefinite references I have no clue
> to what Michael Press is talking about.


The editor who put those paragraphs in the story meant for
people who read the story to go away with the conviction
that the bicyclists were engaged in reckless, crazy behavior.

--
Michael Press
 
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peter

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On Mar 11, 9:14 am, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mar 9, 10:15 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > # Subject: Two bicylists killed by deputy on Stevens Cayon Road

>
> He should never be allowed to drive a motor vehicle again.
>
> - Frank Krygowski


Far better if that had been the case after his previous DUI charge
(plea-bargained down to 'exhibition of speed').
 
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TomYoung

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On Mar 11, 4:36 pm, "Sandy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dans le message denews:[email protected]m,
> TomYoung <[email protected]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>
>
>
> >> Another amateur Perry Mason in the works.
> >> How about letting this go.
> >> You add nothing to the solace the community needs.
> >> You bring no critical view that is not third hand.
> >> Learn just to say NO.
> >> --
> >> Sandy
> >> --
> >> "Manners are of more importance than laws.
> >> Upon them, in a great measure, the laws depend.
> >> Manners are what vex or soothe,
> >> corrupt or purify, exalt or debase,
> >> barbarize or refine us, by a constant,
> >> steady, uniform, insensible operation
> >> like that of the air we breathe in."
> >> E. Burke

>
> > You should read your own sig. Ad hominem remarks are among the most
> > offensive behaviors while holding your tongue, though difficult, is
> > often the epitome of grace and good manners. Just learn to say NO.

>
> > Tom Young

>
> What you wrote (and cut) was uninformed scandalmongering which treated the
> subject only to elevate your pretentious position of wunderkind
> investigator. Ad hominem is not what you think it is. But this could turn
> into infinite regression. Feel free to pen the obvious any time.
> --
> Sandy
> --
> Il n'est aucune sorte de sensation qui soit plus vive
> que celle de la douleur ; ses impressions sont sûres,
> elles ne trompent point comme celles du plaisir.
> - de Sade.


The obvious eludes me.

Tom Young
"Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and
beat you with experience."
- Bumper sticker.
 
Peter Rathman wrote:

>>> # Subject: Two bicyclists killed by deputy on Stevens Canyon Road


>> He should never be allowed to drive a motor vehicle again.


> Far better if that had been the case after his previous DUI charge
> (plea-bargained down to 'exhibition of speed').


What was apparent to me from the aerial photo of the scene right after
it occurred, made clear to me that sheriff patrol officer fell asleep
at the wheel by the position of the car on the left embankment and the
gentleness of the curve of this wide well paved double striped road.

Beside that, witnesses said the officer got out of the car ans said it
was awful, the end of his life an career because he fell asleep, his
own words.

I find that supervisor at fault for putting the deputy back on the
road after a 12.5 hour shift the day before and with the change to
daylight savings time was additionally off norm with his sleep. That
was an irresponsible decision as I see it.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=features/2008/police_california_deaths08

Jobst Brandt
 
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peter

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On Mar 14, 7:54 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Peter Rathman wrote:
> >>> # Subject: Two bicyclists killed by deputy on Stevens Canyon Road
> >> He should never be allowed to drive a motor vehicle again.

> > Far better if that had been the case after his previous DUI charge
> > (plea-bargained down to 'exhibition of speed').

>
> What was apparent to me from the aerial photo of the scene right after
> it occurred, made clear to me that sheriff patrol officer fell asleep
> at the wheel by the position of the car on the left embankment and the
> gentleness of the curve of this wide well paved double striped road.
>
> Beside that, witnesses said the officer got out of the car ans said it
> was awful, the end of his life an career because he fell asleep, his
> own words.


Yes, that was all pretty clear in the reporting of the crash. But I
would also have some questions about the hiring and duty assignment
decisions that placed a person in a patrol car who had previously
exhibited such a cavalier attitude toward safe driving.
 

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