Originally posted by zapper
Babbar, I couldn't agree with you more. My fingers tire from having to correct him and others that spew hearsay like it is gospel. I personally am over the googleized liberal propaganda and novel sized postings...
Suffice it to say, you are dead on concerning what the term "Liberal" means TODAY in this country.
Limerickman, why don't you google Zell Miller or former N.Y. Mayor Ed koch who are real Democrats and support President Bush and blast the current (new liberal) Democratic Party!
Once again, I have seen reps from countries that blast us in the media yet court us behind the scenes...This once again is a first hand, witnessed FACT not Balloon Juice conjured up on some bogus website...
Finally, Limerickman claims (CBS news anchor) Dan Rather made some comment that he couldn't report the news he wanted..I wonder if he was watching that CBS News channel which displayed Princess Diana's body? It was despicable and they should be ashamed..That should explain what kind of news org that Rather works for so even if he did make that comment...consider the source...by the way, I think that Pat Tillman was one of many I spoke of earlier in my original post that joined the Military for other reasons than for a JOB! Believe me, there are many more!!!
In closing..What is great about America is that we can take criticism like the hooey being slung by Limerickman and others and yet still like these people... It's kind of like caring for a child, you know that they mean well but can't help it...I wouldn't want these two fighting beside me, but I would fight for them anyway so that they have the right to freedom of speech. I'm glad they have the freedom to voice their opinion thats why many Americans gave their lives in WWII and ...You can just say thank you or have a nice day or say nothing I don't care..But, if some Evil country was invading you, who are you going to call? I don't think you could "type them to death" like whats being done here!
Decades ago we were heroes now (because of our sacrifice) since these people are all comfortable and have no worries we are arrogant, war mongers just looking for a fight...Balloon Juice!
BTW Limerickman, bloodline is Irish on my mothers side. Her maiden name was Leary..The "O" was dropped due to Irish persecution when they came over as immigrants to the U.S. years ago. Even so, my family has a history of fighting for this country and they loved my country just like I do. Once again its' called ownership...Something they must have learned when they came over here or perhaps it is something that you lost.????
Zapper,
I read your post with interest.
The goalposts continually move with you guys, eh ?
I quote “ you are dead on concerning what the word LIBERAL means today” end quote, Zapper.
You’re now stating that depending on which day it is – the word liberal can mean different things ?
Shifting goalposts, amigo.
I quote again “I have seen reps from countries that blast us in the media yet court us behind the scenes...This once again is a first hand, witnessed FACT not Balloon Juice conjured up on some bogus website...” end quote, Zapper.
Can you give us some details of countries who have requested help from the USA ?
I know of no country that court the USA behind the scenes.
If they want help, they ask for help and it’s reported.
I quote “Finally, Limerickman claims (CBS news anchor) Dan Rather made some comment that he couldn't report the news he wanted..I wonder if he was watching that CBS News channel which displayed Princess Diana's body? It was despicable and they should be ashamed..That should explain what kind of news org that Rather works for so even if he did make that comment...consider the source...by the way, I think that Pat Tillman was one of many I spoke of earlier in my original post that joined the Military for other reasons than for a JOB! Believe me, there are many more!!!” end quote, Zapper.
I am based in Europe, we do get coverage of CBS Evening News at USA time 7.00pm.
Other than seeing this broadcast, I have not seen any other output from CBS.
I did however see a BBC interview conducted by Charles Wheeler with Dan Rather.
Rather made the comments about the content of the reports which he reads each night.
As I have already explained to you – I don’t know if Rather is good/bad/indifferent.
What intrigues me is how a respected newscaster can more or less admit that what he reads each night is one version of news tailored to meet what people ought to think and is therefore not objective news.
It doesn’t matter if the newscaster is Kermit the Frog – the essential point is that the editorial control of what is read each night is biased.
THAT IS THE POINT !
Quote “In closing..What is great about America is that we can take criticism like the hooey being slung by Limerickman and others and yet still like these people” endquote, Zapper.
Indeed.
It seems to me that if anyone voices a reasonable criticism that you cannot in fact take it !
Quote “I'm glad they have the freedom to voice their opinion thats why many Americans gave their lives in WWII and ...You can just say thank you or have a nice day or say nothing I don't care..But, if some Evil country was invading you, who are you going to call? I don't think you could "type them to death" like whats being done here!”endquote, Zapper.
Let’s be clear here – the USA’s participation in WW2 was welcome.
But the USA was neutral until Pearl Harbour, if you recall.
Britain, France, the Soviet Union all fought in WW2 for a long time before the USA became involved.
Indeed, in my own country thousands of men joined the British army to fight in what was rightly considered to be “a just war”.
(A little history lesson, less than 25 years prior to 1939 our nation, Ireland, had been at war with Britain, but because Nazi Germany was a threat to civilization, our nation
discarded ancient enmity and joined the British forces to fight Nazism – so as you’re blowing your hole about the USA – you’d do well to remember that other countries made sacrifices too).
The USA refused to engage in WW2 until the attack at Pearl Harbour.
Quote “BTW Limerickman, bloodline is Irish on my mothers side. Her maiden name was Leary..The "O" was dropped due to Irish persecution when they came over as immigrants to the U.S. years ago. Even so, my family has a history of fighting for this country and they loved my country just like I do. Once again its' called ownership...Something they must have learned when they came over here or perhaps it is something that you lost.????” endquote
Zapper.
If your family joined up –well and good.
The fact that the USA afforded your family a new life is great : a lot of countries have
afforded a livelihood to people (Britain, Germany for example).