Originally posted by zapper
I am very familiar with the geneva convention! What you fail to understand is that mistakes will be made and these brave men and women of the U.S. military may make an error in judgement. But don't you dare infer that these frivolous absurdities are torture! Humiliating yes, torture? uh...I don't think so. So, I'll give ya the benefit of the doubt and there are 150 soldiers not adhering to the Geneva Convention...While the other 130,000 + ARE! Give me a break!
What portion of the Geneva Convention are the terrorist adhering to? Please answer that one, I really want to know.
Further, WHO in the heck needs the U.N.? As far as I'm concerned it is a farce!
Look, our military COC is investigating these DISPICABLE acts and have been for some time.
How dare you typcast or try to impune the integrity of OUR troops who are risking their lives...SHAME ON YOU. Secondly, you have never been underfire have you? Yet you dare make a point about Bush? I very disapointed in you...
Like I said, under the right circumstances, I would have shot rock man too! You nor I don't know what steps were taken to disarm him prior to shooting him..
No the media weren't the perpatrators..Just the catylists for a shark feeding frenzy...What else is new. By blowing the lid off of this when asked to keep it quiet until we settled down the insurgents it put OUR BOYS and GIRLS at further RISK...Bad call once again by the Media who cares only about self preservation!
Limerickman, cool your jets....I blame the soldiers the handful out of hundreds of thousands that are doing good work...I blame the media for portraying that this is how every American Soldier Acts and for PUTTING OUR TROOPS AT RISK!
My friend, if you can't see "eye-to-eye" on that one then you are beyond help...
I can understand that you are embarrased by some of the stuff you spin on here and thus are afraid to be identified by your place of employment. I wasn't trying to get an address on you, I was just curious as to what orginization you worked for...
Oh, we don't feel guilty for being in an illegal war, you just want us to feel guilty for doing the right thing!
If I thought for one minute that all of the US armed forces acted in the way that those people have done in AG prison in Baghdad,
I would say so.
I never said that all US troops acted in this way.
What I did say was that the troops at this prison acted in a way that has brought grave dishonour upon the entire US army.
The actions of the few have tarnished the reputation of the many.
How few - we cannot quantify yet because we dont not the know the extent of this case - so we'll wait and see how many troops
are prosecuted by your goverment.
We'll see how committed your goverment is to cleaning up it's act.
Your COC has been covering this whole affair up since October 2003 - that's what your COC has been doing.
I watched the Senate hearing yesterday - and it was clearly stated that the Sec of Def and his people did not bother to inform the Senate Arms Committee of these investigations until after the publication of those photos.
THE POLITIICANS AT THE DoD ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ANSWERABLE TO THAT SENATE COMMITTEE.
The point being - if all of this was going on and the COC were
supposedly aware of it - why wasn't it brought to light by the COC
to DoD and to the Senate Committee ?
You see my guess is that the COC didn't know or didn't want to know about this issue and it's had was forced when these photos were disclosed.
I am not in the least bit embarrased by what I have posted here.
The fact of the matter is that lies and continous lying by the Bush Goverment has got the USA in to it's current mess.
Bush is the problem.
Bush hasn't got the brains to see that what he is doing is completely and utterly counter productive.
You know, I really do think that he is being manipulated by President Cheney and Co.
Bush simply hasn't got the mental capacity to make an informed
decision about anything.
He chose not to evaluate the weapons inspectors reports - he chose not to evaluate the threat caused by invading Iraq - he chose not to evaluate his unconditional support for Israel.
Bush listens to advice - he accepts that advice at face value and
then makes an order based on that advice.
He doesn't test, evaluate, verify - any advice given to him.
He was told repeatedly about the threat up to Sept 11th - and he ignored that advice.
He was told repeatedly about the lack of WMD and he ignored that advice too.
He ignored the advice that to discard the Palestinian roadmap
will prove diasterous.
He's a mouthpiece - that's about it.
And that is the real worry.