Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?

[POGATA]

i've tested against several of them (each unit gave different, but wildly optimistic readings). I've also tested quite a few other trainers that incorporate a 'power meter', and in general they're wildly optimistic too.

Off the top of my head, i've tested several Computrainers, a few Tacx Basics/Grand Excels, a Fortius (couldn't get it to work with my Power Tap), several Elite Axioms, about five or six Cateye Cyclosimulators, a Cyclops trainer and possibly some others (can't recall off the top of my head).

so what if Elite make more trainers than anyone else? Quantity production doesn't necessarily mean accurate.

Ric

What scale factor did you use on the Tacx trainers?

 

[BullGod]

What scale factor did you use on the Tacx trainers?

FWIW forum user "Solar Energy" has confirmed to me (by testing against his powertap) that if you use a Tacx Flow - you need to enter your weight value (if possible) at around 30kg less than you actually weigh - so I weigh 70kg - but I enter my weight as 40kg. You then need to have max tyre pressure and get the screw so tight that you can only just push the lever down to get the roller against the tyre. You should then ignore calibration (which tends to make the machine overestimate power).

When he did this the watt value he saw on the Taxc display screen was around 5% lower than the value on his powertap.

When I set the weight value at 70kg my FTP is about 365w.....when I set it up as per Solar Energy's recommendations it went down to 325w....

it is still not accurate power - but at least you know that it will tend more to be underestimating rather than overestimating. I know which one I'd rather have.

 

[POGATA]

FWIW forum user "Solar Energy" has confirmed to me (by testing against his powertap) that if you use a Tacx Flow - you need to enter your weight value (if possible) at around 30kg less than you actually weigh - so I weigh 70kg - but I enter my weight as 40kg. You then need to have max tyre pressure and get the screw so tight that you can only just push the lever down to get the roller against the tyre. You should then ignore calibration (which tends to make the machine overestimate power).

When he did this the watt value he saw on the Taxc display screen was around 5% lower than the value on his powertap.

When I set the weight value at 70kg my FTP is about 365w.....when I set it up as per Solar Energy's recommendations it went down to 325w....

it is still not accurate power - but at least you know that it will tend more to be underestimating rather than overestimating. I know which one I'd rather have.

Scale factor!

 

[tonyzackery]

FWIW forum user "Solar Energy" has confirmed to me (by testing against his powertap) that if you use a Tacx Flow - you need to enter your weight value (if possible) at around 30kg less than you actually weigh - so I weigh 70kg - but I enter my weight as 40kg. You then need to have max tyre pressure and get the screw so tight that you can only just push the lever down to get the roller against the tyre. You should then ignore calibration (which tends to make the machine overestimate power).

When he did this the watt value he saw on the Taxc display screen was around 5% lower than the value on his powertap.

When I set the weight value at 70kg my FTP is about 365w.....when I set it up as per Solar Energy's recommendations it went down to 325w....

it is still not accurate power - but at least you know that it will tend more to be underestimating rather than overestimating. I know which one I'd rather have.

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4569

Review of ergometers. Note that the stationary trainers in this review UNDERESTIMATED power. Take it for what it's worth...

It's all relative, not all of it's relevant...

 

[RapDaddyo]

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4569

Review of ergometers. Note that the stationary trainers in this review UNDERESTIMATED power. Take it for what it's worth...

It's all relative, not all of it's relevant...

It's too bad the author didn't do more testing, such as power drift over the course of a typical L4 interval and seeing if a PT works on the trainer (e.g., compatibility problems between certain Tacx trainers and PTs). He talks about a 10% difference as "acceptable." I don't agree. A difference of 10% is huge.

 

[NomadVW]

I can't wait until summer is fully here and we can stop talking about trainers!

 

[bikeguy]

Originally Posted by peterwright
the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
BullGod 365 70 5.21
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
2007 bikeguy 340 72 kg 4.71 W/kg, 12 minute power 400 (+?) w @ 100 rpm
postal_bag 345 75 4.6
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
RobM 312 73 4.27
2006 bikeguy 315 74 4.26 corrected for weight
cadence230 280 4.24
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
offthebackCT 200 76 2.63

Just destroyed my PB today for 12 continuous minute power, I'm starting to take a hand off the handlebars riding up short hills and it feels comfortable.
I have a significant fall off in power when riding on aerobars and somewhat wide shoulders, so my TT probably won't be great ever, but I will clean up going up hills. These power tests are done on a bike that's a bit more upright than when in the drops on my road bike.

-bikeguy

 

[NomadVW]

Originally Posted by peterwright
the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
BullGod 365 70 5.21
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
2007 bikeguy 340 72 kg 4.71 W/kg, 12 minute power 400 (+?) w @ 100 rpm
postal_bag 345 75 4.6
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
NomadVW 345 77 4.48
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
RobM 312 73 4.27
2006 bikeguy 315 74 4.26 corrected for weight
cadence230 280 4.24
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
offthebackCT 200 76 2.63

Week of testing done... back in the training load deficit!

 

[gggossel]

FTP=266
Age: 29
Wt= 74.5Kg

Up 15W from a month ago.

 

[Piotr]

A 10 W improvement in 3 weeks (since I started doing 2 x 20 min).

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
BullGod 365 70 5.21
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
Piotr 250 53 4.71
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
postal_bag 333 76 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
RobM 312 73 4.27
cadence230 280 4.24
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
offthebackCT 200 76 2.63

 

[PaulMD]

After 3 weeks of training I did my first 60 minute timetrial on my Cycleops Pro 300PT (with powertap in flywheel).
Age: 27
FTP: 276
Weight: 69.0kg
Ratio: 4.00 watt / kg

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
BullGod 365 70 5.21
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
Piotr 250 53 4.71
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
postal_bag 333 76 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
RobM 312 73 4.27
cadence230 280 4.24
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PaulMD 276 69 4.00
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
gggossel 266 74 3.59
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04

I have planned to do blocks of 4 weeks. After 7 weeks of training I have to do another 60 minute timetrial on my indoorbike. I hope to do it at 300 watt!!

 

[C.Walton]

325w and 143lbs

 

[K50]

After 3 weeks of training I did my first 60 minute timetrial on my Cycleops Pro 300PT (with powertap in flywheel).
Age: 27
FTP: 276
Weight: 69.0kg
Ratio: 4.00 watt / kg

I have planned to do blocks of 4 weeks. After 7 weeks of training I have to do another 60 minute timetrial on my indoorbike. I hope to do it at 300 watt!!

Oooohh you bested me by 0.01W, that hurts haha...I might be overly optimistic, but I would like to get as close to 300W as possible this season

 

[DesFlurane]

This is gonna be good

Age 47
Weight 92
FTP 189
Ratio 2.05

The only way is up

 

[andoveradi]

I started training with power (Powertap Pro) on November 1st last year with stats of:

Age: 33
FTP: 261W
Weight: 82.0kg
Ratio: 3.18 W/kg

Now, just under 4 months later those stats look like this:

FTP: 322W (increase of 61W)
Weight: 76.0kg (decrease of 6.0kg)
Ratio: 4.23 W/kg (increase of 1.05W/kg)



Rmur - What sort of times were/are you getting for 10/25mile TTs with your 4.35W/kg??

 

[rmur17]

I started training with power (Powertap Pro) on November 1st last year with stats of:

Age: 33
FTP: 261W
Weight: 82.0kg
Ratio: 3.18 W/kg

Now, just under 4 months later those stats look like this:

FTP: 322W (increase of 61W)
Weight: 76.0kg (decrease of 6.0kg)
Ratio: 4.23 W/kg (increase of 1.05W/kg)



Rmur - What sort of times were/are you getting for 10/25mile TTs with your 4.35W/kg??

Whew big increases in power there. Congrats on that.

Re power, W/kg and speed/time, it's a bit of a mug's game. Pure uphill to hilly courses are dominated by W/kg whereas flat to rolling courses are dominated by W/Cda (aero drag).

Then throw in wind, ambient temps & pressure (density), traffic, etc ... there are many more variables in the mix even if you know your CdA well from wind-tunnel or field testing.

 

[bikeguy]

Somebody took my new FTP out... fixing.. new FTP mostly from doing a lot
of 5-15 minute intervals, or just one 15 minute effort.

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
BullGod 365 70 5.21
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
bikeguy 340 72 4.72 W/kg
Piotr 250 53 4.71
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
postal_bag 333 76 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
RobM 312 73 4.27
cadence230 280 4.24
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PaulMD 276 69 4.00
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
gggossel 266 74 3.59
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04

-bikeguy

 

[BullGod]

I have revised mine due to trainer power overestimation - the new value is - if anything - a slight underestimation (5% or so).....but I lost a kilo too (over the winter!) so I'm happy....

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
BullGod 340 69 4.93
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
bikeguy 340 72 4.72 W/kg
Piotr 250 53 4.71
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
rouleur 315 72 4.38
postal_bag 333 76 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
RobM 312 73 4.27
cadence230 280 4.24
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PaulMD 276 69 4.00
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
gggossel 266 74 3.59
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04

-bikeguy[/QUOTE]

 

[PaulMD]

I did a retest after 4 weeks.
My FTP increased from 276 watts to 297 watts.


the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
BullGod 340 69 4.93
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
bikeguy 340 72 4.72 W/kg
Piotr 250 53 4.71
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
rouleur 315 72 4.38
postal_bag 333 76 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
PaulMD 297 69 4.30
RobM 312 73 4.27
cadence230 280 4.24
andoveradi 322 76 4.23
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
gggossel 266 74 3.59
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04
DesFlurane 189 92 2.05

 

[rmur17]

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
BullGod 340 69 4.93
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
bikeguy 340 72 4.72 W/kg
Piotr 250 53 4.71
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
PSUCycling 305 68 4.48 (40k 58:30 @ 250W ave-asthema!)
rmur 380 85 4.47 (PT Pro)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
rouleur 315 72 4.38
postal_bag 333 76 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
PaulMD 297 69 4.30
RobM 312 73 4.27
cadence230 280 4.24
andoveradi 322 76 4.23
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
gggossel 266 74 3.59
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
netscriber 143 47 3.04
DesFlurane 189 92 2.05

up another 10W or 30W since October 1st. I've reached my 2007 FTP goal already so either press on to the summit or acclimatize here for a while?