Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?

[otb4evr]

up another 10W or 30W since October 1st. I've reached my 2007 FTP goal already so either press on to the summit or acclimatize here for a while?

Outstanding...

How do you know if it is truly the summit if you don't press on...?

Jim

 

[K50]

up another 10W or 30W since October 1st. I've reached my 2007 FTP goal already so either press on to the summit or acclimatize here for a while?

How have you been training to increase your FTP? Do you do 20's?

 

[rmur17]

How have you been training to increase your FTP? Do you do 20's?

ooooh I've been sworn to secrecy Actually this isn't the proper thread to discuss training details on in any case.

 

[alleycat]

Indicate your resent FTP, age, best resent result, and total years cycling.

I'll start:
FTP:310
age: 39
result: 2nd Cat4 state championship RR
years cycling: 3

FTP - 170W !
age 48
result - 4th @ world duathlon! (never bike raced)
years cycling - 1
wt - 52kg

Better get off this machine and onto the bike!

 

[Dirtcoach]

AndROOb, This may be off the actually topic of the thread but is related and of importance to understand. This is not as simple as on race day you will able to (I guess being more motivated) as yzfrr11 stated yes that helps you mind is a very powerful thing. My educated guess is that currently your anaerobic metabolism is more activated, which will make your perceived effort seem harder at this time. What is going on is actually your aerobic system is working extra hard to utilize the lactate that is produced through anaerobic metabolism. Note lactate is only produced through anaerobic metabolism. As you prepare for your upcoming races the balance of Aerobic and Anaerobic metabolisms will shift if you hit your peak right, and know how to adjust training to do so. Also using average power from a set of intervals only for estimating FTP is better than nothing though does not tell the complete story measuring what is going on metabolically through lactate testing. Everyone should also understand that FTP is not a one size fits all distances, I commonly use different ratios of 60min FTP for my athletes depending on their lactate and power profiles. Note that most standard lactate testing protocols used in most cases overestimates (yes it is an estimate not an exact) what the FTP when 3min stages are used and do not take into account the contribution of anaerobic metabolism to the individual athletes state of training. On another note few use lactate testing during actual training sessions and is of greater value than lab controlled testing sessions which will show long term adaptations. So there is not an easy answer if by race day you will possibly be able ride at your estimated FTP for the full 40K.

FTP: 232w;
Age: 44;
Mass: 71kg;
Years cycling: 3;
Best result: 23:30 for a 10 mile TT last summer.

I have been questioning my FTP which, correct me if I am wrong, is my 1 hour power too? Well I did a 2x20 session out on a TT course I use frequently, and although I completed the 2x20's @ (232wAP/234wNP), theres no way I could have maintained this power for 1 hour.
Can someone put me right on this please?

 

[Dirtcoach]

Current
FTP: 305w;
Mass: 65.6 kg;
4.65 watts/kg
Cat 2 35+ now
Age: 42;
Years cycling: 15;

Best FTP 365
at 67.4 kg
5.41 watts/kg
Best result: 50:10 for a 40K
1996

 

[clausfod]

Racing for 2 years.

FTP 414 watt
Weight 78 kg
Age 31

Cat. 1/2 in Denmark.

 

[PSUcycling]

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
clausfod 414 78 5.307
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
c.walton 325 65 5.00
BullGod 340 69 4.93
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
2007 bikeguy 340 72 kg 4.71 W/kg, 12 minute power 400 (+?) w @ 100 rpm
PSUCycling 315 67 4.7 up from 4.49w last year and down 1kg
Dirtcoach 305 65.6 4.65
postal_bag 345 75 4.6
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
rmur 380 85 4.47 (PT Pro)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
PaulMD 297 69 4.30
RobM 312 73 4.27
2006 bikeguy 315 74 4.26 corrected for weight
cadence230 280 4.24
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
andoveradi 322 76 4.23
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
alleycat 170 52 3.27
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
offthebackCT 200 76 2.63
DesFlurane 189 92 2.05


updated!

 

[mullerrj]

FTP: 340w now, a little higher (hopefully) when the racing starts in March
Age: 35
Mass: 78kg now, 75kg in season
Years cycling: 4 years racing, currently cat 3

No recent results to speak of except a 40k TT win last year on a windy 90+ degree day.

I won a couple of races as a cat 4, but since then it's been an uphill battle in the 123 fields.

With an FTP of 340 at 78 Kg, that's a 4.35 power to weight ratio. You say you're a Cat-3? Maybe Cat-3 Sandbagger...that's mid Cat-2 power dude.

 

[PSUcycling]

With an FTP of 340 at 78 Kg, that's a 4.35 power to weight ratio. You say you're a Cat-3? Maybe Cat-3 Sandbagger...that's mid Cat-2 power dude.

FTP is not the ONLY determiner of what cat you should/can race in! V02, tactics, type of terrain etc. If this guy lives in the mtns, then he may have trouble staying in with a strong Pro/1 group climbing, for that you might need closer to 5w/kg.

 

[whoawhoa]

With an FTP of 340 at 78 Kg, that's a 4.35 power to weight ratio. You say you're a Cat-3? Maybe Cat-3 Sandbagger...that's mid Cat-2 power dude.

haha. what would you say about me racing cat 3 on 5w/kg?

Last I checked race category and sandbagger status were decided by results, not power numbers.

 

[mullerrj]

FTP is not the ONLY determiner of what cat you should/can race in! V02, tactics, type of terrain etc. If this guy lives in the mtns, then he may have trouble staying in with a strong Pro/1 group climbing, for that you might need closer to 5w/kg.

I know- just bustin' his chops..I can only dream of that power to weight ratio.

 

[mullerrj]

haha. what would you say about me racing cat 3 on 5w/kg?

Last I checked race category and sandbagger status were decided by results, not power numbers.

Cat 3 at 5 w/kg? sheesh Don't know what to say...how bout..I'm jealous.

 

[whoawhoa]

Cat 3 at 5 w/kg? sheesh Don't know what to say...how bout..I'm jealous.

Upgrading in the next few days, as soon as I feel motivated enough to type up a results sheet.

 

[DesFlurane]

There has been a nice improvement since January

240 90 2.66

 

[grebletie]

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
clausfod 414 78 5.307
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
c.walton 325 65 5.00
BullGod 340 69 4.93
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
2007 bikeguy 340 72 kg 4.71 W/kg, 12 minute power 400 (+?) w @ 100 rpm
PSUCycling 315 67 4.7 up from 4.49w last year and down 1kg
Dirtcoach 305 65.6 4.65
postal_bag 345 75 4.6
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
rmur 380 85 4.47 (PT Pro)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
PaulMD 297 69 4.30
RobM 312 73 4.27
2006 bikeguy 315 74 4.26 corrected for weight
cadence230 280 4.24
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
andoveradi 322 76 4.23
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
grebletie 272 65 4.18
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
alleycat 170 52 3.27
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
offthebackCT 200 76 2.63
DesFlurane 189 92 2.05

Just retested again today. About a 10 watt bump from the last time I tested. Now I just need to learn race tactics and strategy. That and I need to stop doing Midwest Crits.

I wish I had historical numbers to compare against. It's fun tracking improvements, and finding deficits in ability. Although last year was my first year cycling, so I'm sure the numbers wouldn't be demonstrative of anything.

 

[iliveonnitro]

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
clausfod 414 78 5.307
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
c.walton 325 65 5.00
BullGod 340 69 4.93
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
2007 bikeguy 340 72 kg 4.71 W/kg, 12 minute power 400 (+?) w @ 100 rpm
PSUCycling 315 67 4.7 up from 4.49w last year and down 1kg
Dirtcoach 305 65.6 4.65
postal_bag 345 75 4.6
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
rmur 380 85 4.47 (PT Pro)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
PaulMD 297 69 4.30
RobM 312 73 4.27
2006 bikeguy 315 74 4.26 corrected for weight
cadence230 280 4.24
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
andoveradi 322 76 4.23
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
alleycat 170 52 3.27
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
offthebackCT 200 76 2.63
DesFlurane 189 92 2.05

I'll throw mine into the mix: 277w, 67.5kg, 4.1w/kg. Cat5.

You should update the list with the category in which each rider competes to get an idea where we should aim to hit a certain level.

 

[PSUcycling]

I'll throw mine into the mix: 277w, 67.5kg, 4.1w/kg. Cat5.

You should update the list with the category in which each rider competes to get an idea where we should aim to hit a certain level.

thats a good idea...

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
clausfod 414 78 5.307
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
c.walton 325 65 5.00
BullGod 340 69 4.93
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
2007 bikeguy 340 72 kg 4.71 W/kg, 12 minute power 400 (+?) w @ 100 rpm
PSUCycling 315 67 4.7 Cat2 (U.S.)
Dirtcoach 305 65.6 4.65
postal_bag 345 75 4.6
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
rmur 380 85 4.47 (PT Pro)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
PaulMD 297 69 4.30
RobM 312 73 4.27
2006 bikeguy 315 74 4.26 corrected for weight
cadence230 280 4.24
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
andoveradi 322 76 4.23
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
jbvcoaching 310 77 4.03 21:10 52:17
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
alleycat 170 52 3.27
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
offthebackCT 200 76 2.63
DesFlurane 189 92 2.05

 

[jbvcoaching]

the holster 370 67 5.52
Camoscio 340 62 5.48
scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
musher 340 64 5.31
clausfod 414 78 5.307
bigmatt 396 75 5.28
joemw 354 68 5.20
whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
c.walton 325 65 5.00
BullGod 340 69 4.93
musher 318 65 4.89
Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
2007 bikeguy 340 72 kg 4.71 W/kg, 12 minute power 400 (+?) w @ 100 rpm
PSUCycling 315 67 4.7 Cat2 (U.S.)
Dirtcoach 305 65.6 4.65
postal_bag 345 75 4.6
gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
rmur 380 85 4.47 (PT Pro)
peterpen 290 65 4.46
zaskar 280 63 4.44
midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
joule 266 60 4.43
HammerHead 300 68 4.41
rouleur 315 72 4.38
Thorman 340 78 4.36
rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
dshep27283 345 80 4.31
PaulMD 297 69 4.30
RobM 312 73 4.27
2006 bikeguy 315 74 4.26 corrected for weight
cadence230 280 4.24
bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
andoveradi 322 76 4.23
mattv2099 314 75 4.19
Stanette 313 75 4.17
Atsic 252 61 4.13
yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
Xav 318 77 4.13
pledac 285 69 4.13
Spunout 280 68 4.12
NomadVW 322 78 4.12
RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
velobob 310 77 4.03
jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
PeterWright 280 70 4
bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
cube 290 73 3.97
Old Junker 250 63 3.97
velomanct 310 79 3.92
jbvcoaching 300* 77 3.90 21:10 52:17 USCF & ACA cat 1
My02Sti 305 79 3.86
Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
robkit 280 75 3.73
amartinez 250 67 3.73
Trailhead 312 84 3.71
11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
sugaken 240 66 3.64
woodgab 321 89 3.61
bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
AndROOb 232 71 3.27
spomanski 310 96 3.23
alleycat 170 52 3.27
netscriber 143 47 3.04
beerco 220 78 2.82
fmarques25 204 74 2.76
offthebackCT 200 76 2.63
DesFlurane 189 92 2.05

* All testing and training, and most racing done between 7000' - 7500'. I really don't know what it is at sea level, although FTP never exceeded ~330W when I still lived there from 2001-2004. The 10 mile time listed is from sea level in 2004, while the 40k PR is from 2005 at 6500'.

 

[K50]

I'll throw mine into the mix: 277w, 67.5kg, 4.1w/kg. Cat5.

You should update the list with the category in which each rider competes to get an idea where we should aim to hit a certain level.

Yeah, that's a good idea. But seriously, you're only Cat 5 at 4.1W/kg? Are you new to racing? I figured at 4W/kg you'd be able to get to Cat 3 in most places, and at the very least a good Cat 4 racer.