Poll: What's your Functional Threshold power?

Discussion in 'Power Training' started by yzfrr11, Jan 7, 2006.

  1. dkrenik

    dkrenik Member

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    jdc64 400 71 5.63 *Based off monod (5', 12', 20', 30' Actual Power)
    the holster 370 67 5.52
    Camoscio 340 62 5.48
    scotmart 385 72 5.35 19:58 (47:21 on a 37.8km course)
    musher 340 64 5.31
    clausfod 414 78 5.307
    bigmatt 396 75 5.28
    joemw 354 68 5.20
    whoawhoa 320 62.5 5.12
    gvanwagner 325 64 5.08
    MikeMUK 360 72 5.01
    c.walton 325 65 5.00
    BullGod 340 69 4.93
    musher 318 65 4.89
    PSUCycling 324 67 4.83 Cat2 (U.S.)
    Markster 335 70 4.79 19:57 51:55
    2007 bikeguy 340 72 kg 4.71 W/kg, 12 minute power 400 (+?) w @ 100 rpm
    Dirtcoach 305 65.6 4.65
    postal_bag 345 75 4.6
    gonzalovilaseca 310 68 4.56
    kennethn 320 70.3 4.55
    JohnMeyers 350 77 4.54
    rmur 380 85 4.47 (PT Pro)
    NomadVW 345 77 4.48
    peterpen 290 65 4.46
    zaskar 280 63 4.44
    midbunchlurker 275 62 4.43
    joule 266 60 4.43
    HammerHead 300 68 4.41
    rouleur 315 72 4.38
    Thorman 340 78 4.36
    rmur 370 85 4.35 (PT Pro, ~380W on SRM)
    Chowderm 325 75 4.33 52:19
    Lazy Llama 286 66 4.33 13.3 mi TT, 30:12
    dshep27283 345 80 4.31
    PaulMD 297 69 4.30
    RobM 312 73 4.27
    2006 bikeguy 315 74 4.26 corrected for weight
    cadence230 280 4.24
    bikeguy 315 72 4.38 5 km rolling TT, 7:15; standard, no aero bars, after 90k
    andoveradi 322 76 4.23
    mattv2099 314 75 4.19
    grebletie 272 65 4.18 Cat 4 (U.S.)
    Stanette 313 75 4.17
    Atsic 252 61 4.13
    yzfrr11 310 75 4.13
    Xav 318 77 4.13
    pledac 285 69 4.13
    Spunout 280 68 4.12
    RapDaddyo 325 80 4.06
    velobob 310 77 4.03
    jack.hutchinson 285 71 4.01
    PeterWright 280 70 4
    bspurgeon 315 78.5 3.99
    K50 275 69 3.99, (no TT's) all XC baby!
    cube 290 73 3.97
    Old Junker 250 63 3.97
    velomanct 310 79 3.92
    jbvcoaching 300 77 3.90
    My02Sti 305 79 3.86
    Otb4evr 385 100 3.85 22:19 58:48
    BlueJersey 230 60 3.83
    robkit 280 75 3.73
    amartinez 250 67 3.73
    Trailhead 312 84 3.71
    11ring 256 70 3.66 22.10
    sugaken 240 66 3.64
    woodgab 321 89 3.61
    bigbevans 260 73 3.56 21:30 (270 w) 56:46
    Hookyrider 284 80 3.55
    Krazyderek 260 78 3.33
    AndROOb 232 71 3.27
    spomanski 310 96 3.23
    alleycat 170 52 3.27
    netscriber 143 47 3.04
    beerco 220 78 2.82
    fmarques25 204 74 2.76
    DesFlurane 240 90 2.66
    offthebackCT 200 76 2.63
    dkrenik 235 83 2.6


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  2. K50

    K50 New Member

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    I thought this thread was 1 hour power? 400W FTP vs 407W 30minute??
     
  3. otb4evr

    otb4evr New Member

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    Sounds like a REAL flat CP curve...

    Jim
     
  4. clausfod

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    update:

    FTP 440 weight 77kg.

    /Claus Nielsen
    Denmark



     
  5. jsocia

    jsocia New Member

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    FTP:500 (2X20 min w/5 min recovery)
    weight: 79 kg
    age: 33
    result: 6.32
    years cycling: 13
    years racing (MTB): 2
    awards: 1st place in men's 30-34 Michigan Norba Series Sport Class

    ...racing Expert now.

    Would like to start road racing as well, but would I be labeled a sandbagger in Cat 5? (...from what I understand its mandatory to start in Cat 5?)
     
  6. rmur17

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    okay I'm not going to start off by questioning your data. I will direct you to the following power-profiling tables.

    http://cyclingpeakssoftware.com/images/powerprofile_v4.gif

    500W @79kg puts you around Miguel Indurain stats or virtually at the top of the international pro rating for FTP (6.40 w/kg). Johan could use you right now.
     
  7. jsocia

    jsocia New Member

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    For what its worth I've based my numbers on the following chart provided by cycleops. Note the power curve @ 29 mph for the Fluid 2 (by the way that's an 8-speed ultegra in the highest gear at a cadence of 85)

    http://www.cycle-ops.com/comparison/trainers.pdf

    And yes it may not be as pure of a number as an SRM or similiar meter (which I currently cannot afford), but it's in the ballpark. Admittedly even if it errors on the high side by 50 watts, they're unbelievable numbers for a non-pro. But I've seen the progress, last year at this time I could barely hold my current FTP for a minute. What did I do? Followed Dave Morris's plan...

    Cheers
     
  8. daveryanwyoming

    daveryanwyoming Well-Known Member

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    Yep, they'd call you a sandbagger in the 5's with numbers like that, but so what. You've got no choice about the category you start in and you're only sandbagging if you avoid your upgrades when you've earned the points. Being strong doesn't make you a sandbagger, being strong, consistently winning and refusing to upgrade does :)
     
  9. wiredued

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    Is an FTP of 500 watts possible? We are talking hour power correct?:confused:

     
  10. rmur17

    rmur17 New Member

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    yes Miguel Indurain was quite reliably reported in the 505-515W range at around 80kg bodymass. That was for his hour record time .. so definitely FTP :)

    See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxp2w6F8zv8
     
  11. dkrenik

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    Before I invested in an SRM I worked off of a similar chart for Kreitler rollers. Since using the SRM I've found considerable variance in power at a given speed (+/-20W in the ~240W area).

    I'd borrow a friends PT and validate the power curve of your particular trainer. You might find some surprising differences.
     
  12. BikeInMN

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    Were you sick at Iceman last year? Your time doesn't reflect a FT anywhere near 500.
    I was injured for the 4 weeks before Iceman (off the bike that whole time) and still put 7+ minutes into your time and my FT isn't anywhere close to that even when I'm on the razor.
     
  13. jsocia

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    Not per say, but definitely over the peak. But more to the point, the race at Iceman was before I started training by the Morris plan - or any actual plan for that matter. As I noted - "I've seen the progress, last year at this time I could barely hold my current FTP for a minute."
     
  14. iliveonnitro

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    I heard Team Discovery is looking for a replacement rider for Basso... :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  15. rmur17

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    My first power (ramp) test was on an old CT bought in the mid-90's. I did the CCA 3-min step test with 30W delta per step. And I ended up hitting something around 525W ... excitedly starting checking what that meant in W/kg and estimated Vo2max .. and quickly realized it couldn't be correct. No way I had a Vo2max ~ 80.

    When I got a new CT that fall and did the same test two months later, the results were much more in line with what I expected.

    So I'd buy, borrow, beg or steal a PT and do a proper test. Used PT's are going pretty darned cheap these days and as long as you zero the offset they're highly reliable.
     
  16. pinkpanther

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    290watts for 40min TT
     
  17. PSUcycling

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    floyd landis came through texas in his "i need money to defend myself" tour. My teammate asked him a question while he was up in Dallas...

    "what was your FTP when you won the tour?"

    "I was able to produce 425W, and my weight last year was 68kg"

    sorry bro, floyds FTP when he won the TdeF was 6.25w/kg. Even if you were sand bagging @ 6+w/kg in ANY domestic category, you could easily ride off the front and win everything! that includes Pro RRs and PRo MTB races.

    please retest your FTP with a PT or SRM and let us know. I'm sure it is very good, but I dont' think you realize what you are claming.
     
  18. rmur17

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    top of the FTP chart is 6.4 W/kg so that ties in very nicely doesn't it?
     
  19. kopride

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    Just did a one hour time trial today on a hilly course during a blowing Nor'easter to set my benchmarks. This is my first week with my new PT 2.4 so I am considering this my first benchmark. (I also had to contend with some lights and stop signs).

    W-255; m-78.02kg;age-41; p/w-3.269.

    Hopefully, these numbers will be up as I beging power training. It has been a while since I raced, back in he early nineties I was doing regular duatholons.
     
  20. BullGod

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    I've been informed by a reliable source of the numbers that the Rabobank team can generate. There are a few guys on the forum who claim to be up there with them.

    Jsocia would probably be able to ride Oscar Freire off his wheel....:eek:
     
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