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Principia Gear selection Problems

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    Does anyone out there have a Principia bike with problems
    shifting between large and small rings at the Front??

    I have a TT2 Light with an Ultegra front mech, and crankset
    and Dura Ace rear mech and Bar end shifters. Shifting up to
    the large ring at the front is almost impossible. after much
    grinding and stopping pedalling it shifts up eventually. ( I
    don;t suppose the chain will last long)

    The bike is new, Although purchased before the winter it has
    been ridden once and not been right ever.

    I have had the bike looked at by my local bike shop , who
    couldn't get it working (despite having an experienced
    mechanic), then by the company I purchased it from (2 hrs
    drive away from home). they said they found that the gear
    selection cable had pulled through the sheath (and they
    replaced the front Mech) and then they sent the bike back,
    But it is still the same, they did say bar end shifters are
    not as smooth as STIs. I figured it was a problem with the
    frame and was about the get them to swap it for a Rexe Pro
    frame instead (they have bolt on frame lugs where as the T2
    is braised on). But!! At a race last night I was speaking to
    someone who was frustrated and having the same problem with
    her Principia, Rexe Pro, with Full Dura-ace all round
    including the STi.s

    So anyone else have this problem ?? Is it an issue with
    Principia frame geometry.

    Note my £600 Giant with Tiagra components shifts sweet every
    time in any situation (even with about 4000 miles on it), so
    surely I should expect equal if not better performance from
    a new £3000 bike?

    Any suggestions or notes from others with similar problems
    would help

    cheers all

    Andy

  2. sparky.g said:

    I have a TT2 Light with an Ultegra front mech, and
    crankset and Dura Ace rear mech and Bar end shifters.
    Shifting up to the large ring at the front is almost
    impossible. after much grinding and stopping pedalling it
    shifts up eventually. ( I don;t suppose the chain will
    last long)

    Have you tried adjusting the height and rotation of the
    derailleur in relation to the chainring? It may have been
    pushed or knocked at some point. I can't imagine that a LBS
    would have missed any other adjustments as front
    derailleurs are not *that* difficult to set up. Try taking
    it to another shop.

    Quoted message said:

    Note my £600 Giant with Tiagra components shifts sweet
    every time in any situation (even with about 4000 miles on
    it), so surely I should expect equal if not better
    performance from a new £3000 bike?

    Quite. If it really is a dud, then send it back. Not fit
    for purpose.

  3. "sparky.g" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone out there have a Principia bike with problems
    shifting between large and small rings at the Front??

    I have a TT2 Light with an Ultegra front mech, and
    crankset and Dura Ace rear mech and Bar end shifters.
    Shifting up to the large ring at the


    front

    Quoted message said:

    is almost impossible. after much grinding and stopping
    pedalling it


    shifts

    Quoted message said:

    up eventually. ( I don;t suppose the chain will last long)

    It strikes me that this is unlikely to be anything to do
    with front mech adjustment, if you and two shops have all
    failed to get it working better. TBH, I'm not at all sure,
    and I'm responding because no one else appears to have any
    idea. I used to build Principias, and never experienced this
    type of problem. I think my next steps would be:

    1/. Check all the cables for smooth operation, and make sure
    that the lever isn't right at it's extreme when in the big
    ring. If it is, and the lever needs its full range (which
    it shouldn't, if it's a Dura Ace barcon & front mech), try
    clamping the cable on the other side of the clamp bolt.
    2/. Check that the chainrings have been correctly fitted
    (and - you'll obviously know this straight away - that the
    sizes are appropriate, and not 39-56, e.g.);
    3/. Try a completely different type of chain;
    4/. Check that the bottom bracket length is correct - is the
    mech at or near it's limit in the big ring?

    HTH

  4. "Simon D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "sparky.g" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone out there have a Principia bike with
    problems shifting


    between

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    large and small rings at the Front??

    I have a TT2 Light with an Ultegra front mech, and
    crankset and Dura Ace rear mech and Bar end shifters.
    Shifting up to the large ring at the


    front

    Quoted message said:

    is almost impossible. after much grinding and stopping
    pedalling it


    shifts

    Quoted message said:

    up eventually. ( I don;t suppose the chain will
    last long)

    It strikes me that this is unlikely to be anything to do
    with front mech adjustment, if you and two shops have all
    failed to get it working better.

    Well, I watched a bike shop bloke trying for ages to sort
    out somebody's front mech when he had these symptoms. It was
    on wonky, and he didn't notice. Neither did the owner.

    So I'd check that first - is the cage parallel to the chain?

    cheers, clive

  5. Simon D said:

    It strikes me that this is unlikely to be anything to do
    with front mech adjustment, if you and two shops have all
    failed to get it working better.

    Never underestimate the cluelessness of some shops. Make
    sure the the mech is straight.

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