Protective equipment



soup wrote:
> John Hearns wrote:
> > Later I graduated to using poly survival bags (Peter C - is there ANY
> > other use for these things? I wouldn't care to spend the night in
> > one).

> I am not Peter C but for years used one as an extra liner in a rucksac
> (other people use/I used to use a fertiliser sack [much cheaper]) have
> spent the night (by choice couldn't get into a youth hostel so decided
> to "bivvy-up at the back of it) in one, got absolutely soaked (they do
> not let sweat/water vapour out) would not recommend it and would not do
> it again through choice. May well save your life though; mmm eight
> hours with the wind kept off you (they are usually only about four foot
> long so would not keep heavy rain off your top half) and some heat kept
> in-V-walking off next day with wet kit, close one.
> Would much rather find a cave/couple of rocks to use as shelter and
> take my chances with the body heat the bag would conserve being lost,
> maybe putting all the "spare" clothing I had, on.


After a bit of miscommunication and three clear nights to bivvy under
the stars we discovered the tent poles were in London and we were in
the Dolomites. Thus began a month long road trip of bivvying in orange
plastic bags, under ski lifts, in doorways and so on.

Best bet with the orange bags is to be outside of it. Condensation from
sweat will be more than apparent. It requires a several of rain to be
worth actually getting in it to keep not so wet.

So bizarre were we thought, that the manager of the next refugio, a
good few km up th evalley came down to see these mad English[1] pitched
up outside the hut[2] rather than inside.

Four thunderstorms, 30 nights camping. Ho humm, of such things are
experiences made.

...d

[1] At least one australian, one welsh and possibly a scot (IIRC) with
the balance being English.
[2] At the base of the Torre di Vajolet[3]
[3] Where they filmed the opening sequence to Cliffhanger[4]
[4] Dire Sylvester Stallone movie.
 
David Martin wrote:

> [3] Where they filmed the opening sequence to Cliffhanger[4]
> [4] Dire Sylvester Stallone movie.


But although not quite to the same enjoyably stupid extent as Demolition
Man, so deliberately preposterous as to be rather good fun. Unlike,
say, K2 or Vertical Limit in the Really Not Very Good genre of climbing
action movies.

Pete.
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Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:37:18 +0000, Peter Clinch wrote:

>
> But although not quite to the same enjoyably stupid extent as Demolition
> Man, so deliberately preposterous as to be rather good fun. Unlike, say,
> K2 or Vertical Limit in the Really Not Very Good genre of climbing action
> movies.

You know nothing beats the Eiger Sanction.
 
John Hearns wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:37:18 +0000, Peter Clinch wrote:


>>But although not quite to the same enjoyably stupid extent as Demolition
>>Man, so deliberately preposterous as to be rather good fun. Unlike, say,
>>K2 or Vertical Limit in the Really Not Very Good genre of climbing action
>>movies.

>
> You know nothing beats the Eiger Sanction.


Hence it's non-inclusion in the Really Not Very Good list... ;-) (and
that really is Clint out there on the face according to Hamish McInnes,
factoid fans)

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
 
John Hearns wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:37:18 +0000, Peter Clinch wrote:
>
>> But although not quite to the same enjoyably stupid extent as Demolition
>> Man, so deliberately preposterous as to be rather good fun. Unlike, say,
>> K2 or Vertical Limit in the Really Not Very Good genre of climbing action
>> movies.

> You know nothing beats the Eiger Sanction.
>


Touching the Void beats it.

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham
 
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:59:51 +0000, Tony Raven <[email protected]>
> said in <[email protected]>:
>
>> Touching the Void beats it.

>
> IRTA touching the video - I've been spending far too much time in the
> Shed, obviously.
>


Avoiding the Touch?

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham
 
John Hearns wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:37:18 +0000, Peter Clinch wrote:
>
> >
> > But although not quite to the same enjoyably stupid extent as Demolition
> > Man, so deliberately preposterous as to be rather good fun. Unlike, say,
> > K2 or Vertical Limit in the Really Not Very Good genre of climbing action
> > movies.

> You know nothing beats the Eiger Sanction.


Absolutely. Having seen the Eiger Sanction I'd rather watch nothing
than that film again.

...d
 
"Mark McNeill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Response to John Hearns:
>> As seen in the Times travel supplement on Saturday:
>>
>> http://www.baboongear.com/

>
> It may for all I know be a good idea, but my first thought was still "If
> just one child's **** is saved..."


Yes, but if you can just get some of the arses* to wear it, it would
effectively muffle them.

*BHIT
 
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:59:51 +0000, Tony Raven <[email protected]>
> said in <[email protected]>:
>
>> Touching the Void beats it.

>
> IRTA touching the video - I've been spending far too much time in the
> Shed, obviously.


It was on TV when I was recuperating from a brief illness the other week,
and I'd like to have had the energy to watch it but didn't. My brother,
however, phoned from abroadia, and was unimpressed when I said I could be
watching Touching the Cloth but wasn't.
--
Ambrose
 
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:23:33 -0000, "Ambrose Nankivell"
<[email protected]> said in <[email protected]>:

>It was on TV when I was recuperating from a brief illness the other week,
>and I'd like to have had the energy to watch it but didn't. My brother,
>however, phoned from abroadia, and was unimpressed when I said I could be
>watching Touching the Cloth but wasn't.


Wasn't Touching Cloth a song by Tortoisehead?

Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken
 
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:23:33 -0000, "Ambrose Nankivell"
> <[email protected]> said in <[email protected]>:
>
>> It was on TV when I was recuperating from a brief illness the other
>> week, and I'd like to have had the energy to watch it but didn't. My
>> brother, however, phoned from abroadia, and was unimpressed when I
>> said I could be watching Touching the Cloth but wasn't.

>
> Wasn't Touching Cloth a song by Tortoisehead?


My French colleague once helpfully translated the phrase for me: "avoir une
cigare au bord des levres"
--
Ambrose