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Hippy
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"Jose Rizal" <_@_._> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > But don't a lot of websites only have the author's side of the
story?
> > Don't a lot of books?
>
> The difference is that these have identifiable ownership, that is,
book
> authors are not anonymous, website authors can be traced, and the accusations there are
> attributable and verifiable to an extent. Anonymous contributions of complaints can't be checked
> for veracity.
So what if each one of us set up a website - then it's identifiable.
What about those people that host things bagging a company?
i.e. www.ihatemcdonalds.com (I made this up, btw)? They don't seem to be stopped.. if a lawyer
writes to them and insists that their site be taken down, then it can simply be taken off the
'net (or moved) with nothing done to the creators unless it remains online.
> > Obviously I can see what you are saying and I agree with you to a certain degree - that's half
> > the reason I've not made the site - but isn't it actually within my rights to do so?
>
> Only if you do it in a verifiable way, I would think. Otherwise, your right to swing your arms
> ends at the tip of someone else's nose.
So you can defame someone legally if they are there with you to defend themselves?? I thought it was
defamation regardless?
If people can post rego numbers here saying "nearly ran me over" etc. then what's stopping them
posting these details to another forum, say www.idiotdrivernearlyfugginkilledme.com ?? There has to
be massive amounts of defamation happening on the 'net ALL the time.. why would this be any
different? People bag this bike company and that bike company... People insult each other... etc. I
just don't see why this would be different - the driver of a noted vehicle could get on the site and
post a reply. This means they can defend themselves - so does the site become viable then?
> I think license plates can identify drivers. If not by name, then certainly by sight; the biggest
> problem is that the accused wouldn't
be
A driver can simply claim they weren't driving. It's not a direct "Joe Bloggs, 27 Evergreen
Terrace". Someone would have to do a fair amount of digging to even produce some 'possible' drivers.
> able to defend him/herself easily. The Internet can be a powerful weapon, but it needs to be
> handled responsibly.
This one above is real, btw... check it this example post:
<quote> Rumor has it around 180 E*Trade mortgage workers were told today to pack their **** and trek
to a nearby hotel, where they were summarily dismissed. When: 8/28/2003 <unquote>
They posted a "rumour" about a company. You can also search it for names of individuals.
> > I still don't see why rocket-propelled grenades are not fitted as standard equipment to
> > bikes...is is manufacturing costs? What?
>
> Too much collateral damage.
With some refinements - shaped charges, armour piercing, etc, surely they'd be useful? ;-)
hippy
> > But don't a lot of websites only have the author's side of the
story?
> > Don't a lot of books?
>
> The difference is that these have identifiable ownership, that is,
book
> authors are not anonymous, website authors can be traced, and the accusations there are
> attributable and verifiable to an extent. Anonymous contributions of complaints can't be checked
> for veracity.
So what if each one of us set up a website - then it's identifiable.
What about those people that host things bagging a company?
i.e. www.ihatemcdonalds.com (I made this up, btw)? They don't seem to be stopped.. if a lawyer
writes to them and insists that their site be taken down, then it can simply be taken off the
'net (or moved) with nothing done to the creators unless it remains online.
> > Obviously I can see what you are saying and I agree with you to a certain degree - that's half
> > the reason I've not made the site - but isn't it actually within my rights to do so?
>
> Only if you do it in a verifiable way, I would think. Otherwise, your right to swing your arms
> ends at the tip of someone else's nose.
So you can defame someone legally if they are there with you to defend themselves?? I thought it was
defamation regardless?
If people can post rego numbers here saying "nearly ran me over" etc. then what's stopping them
posting these details to another forum, say www.idiotdrivernearlyfugginkilledme.com ?? There has to
be massive amounts of defamation happening on the 'net ALL the time.. why would this be any
different? People bag this bike company and that bike company... People insult each other... etc. I
just don't see why this would be different - the driver of a noted vehicle could get on the site and
post a reply. This means they can defend themselves - so does the site become viable then?
> I think license plates can identify drivers. If not by name, then certainly by sight; the biggest
> problem is that the accused wouldn't
be
A driver can simply claim they weren't driving. It's not a direct "Joe Bloggs, 27 Evergreen
Terrace". Someone would have to do a fair amount of digging to even produce some 'possible' drivers.
> able to defend him/herself easily. The Internet can be a powerful weapon, but it needs to be
> handled responsibly.
This one above is real, btw... check it this example post:
<quote> Rumor has it around 180 E*Trade mortgage workers were told today to pack their **** and trek
to a nearby hotel, where they were summarily dismissed. When: 8/28/2003 <unquote>
They posted a "rumour" about a company. You can also search it for names of individuals.
> > I still don't see why rocket-propelled grenades are not fitted as standard equipment to
> > bikes...is is manufacturing costs? What?
>
> Too much collateral damage.
With some refinements - shaped charges, armour piercing, etc, surely they'd be useful? ;-)
hippy