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  1. modom (palindrome guy) said:

    I've seen it for sale in Mexican vegetable markets. I wonder if
    there's a usual Mexican method for purslane.

    See
    <http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/recipes/puebla/kgcodilloaquiahuac.html>
    and
    <http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/recipes/puebla/kgpuercoverdolagas.html>

    Victor

  2. On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:06:18 GMT, "The Joneses" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "blake murphy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    The Joneses said:


    "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >> I've been weeding my garden today, after almost 2 weeks of rain --
    >> following 2 months of drought. I've pulled up a couple of pounds of
    >> purslane (there's more out there) and wondering what to do with it. I
    >> know it is edible and supposed to be very nutritious.
    >>
    >> Any ideas?
    >>
    >> I'll probably stirfry some of it with onions, hot peppers, steamed
    >> brown
    >> rice, and a little bit of breakfast sausage.
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Bob
    >
    >
    > It's good on salads. And, the stuff's really healthy to eat:
    > http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/abstract/11/4/374

    Aiiiyee, the stuff is a weed here. Make sure you pull it from edible sort
    of
    ground, less insect sprays and so on. I think Logee's carries a foreign
    variety that has thicker stalks. The Joy of Pickling has a recipe for
    pickling it. Sounds interesting.
    Edrena

    have you made many things from the book? i have it, but haven't
    cooked from it, as i have no garden or gardening friends or other
    ready source of bulk vegetables. all the recipes sound great.

    your pal,
    blake


    Lots actually, and lots more bookmarked. I think pickle recipes are easier
    to divide or multiply because they are less dependant on chemistry to work.
    That's not quite a true statement, but I think you get what I mean. One can
    always tell a favorite cookbook by the dog-eared pages, spots and worn spots
    in the binding. This may be one book I'll wear out.
    I got a tip from a cookbook that said bypass shopping food sales all over
    town to knowing what your closest, favorite store has and take advantage of
    their sales. I envy people who live in agriculturally rich areas.
    Edrena

    thanks. maybe i'll take the plunge.

    your pal,
    blake

  3. Omelet said:


    In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bob, I think it's nice paired with those soba noodles and whatever else.
    Adds a tiny bit of crunch. I usually put a little of whatever leftover meat
    or veggies or in the fridge, along with some soup base or broth.
    Edrena

    Or you can try this New Mexican way of preparing purslane (verdolaga)

    2 cups purslane
    4 tbs fat (lard is good here) or 1/2 cup diced salt pork
    2 tbs chopped onion
    1 cup shredded cooked meat (jerky preferred)
    1 tsp ground coriander seed
    salt to taste

    Wash purslane leaving stems. Fry onion in fat; add purslane and meat.
    Season. Cover and cook until tender.

    Serve wrapped in hot flour tortillas? :-d
    --

    You could do that. Or serve it on fresh fry bread or with rice.

  4. The Joneses said:


    From: "Arri London" <[email hidden]>
    Date: Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:09 AM

    Quoted message said:

    Or you can try this New Mexican way of preparing purslane (verdolaga)
    (clipped Verdolaga recipe)

    Thanks so much Arri, I had forgotten the Spanish word for it. My mostly pale
    neighbors thought I was crazy for suggesting they could eat the weeds...
    There is so much good food for the adventurous.
    Edrena

    You most welcome! Usually I make a salad of the purslane but that recipe
    is tasty too.

  5. Billy said:


    In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bob, I think it's nice paired with those soba noodles and whatever else.
    Adds a tiny bit of crunch. I usually put a little of whatever leftover meat
    or veggies or in the fridge, along with some soup base or broth.
    Edrena

    Or you can try this New Mexican way of preparing purslane (verdolaga)

    2 cups purslane
    4 tbs fat (lard is good here) or 1/2 cup diced salt pork
    2 tbs chopped onion
    1 cup shredded cooked meat (jerky preferred)
    1 tsp ground coriander seed
    salt to taste

    Wash purslane leaving stems. Fry onion in fat; add purslane and meat.
    Season. Cover and cook until tender.

    You realize, I trust, that you just killed 2 cups of purslane and their
    health benefits. The omega-3 fatty acids are meant to protect against
    heart disease not facilitate it.
    --

    ROTFL! So don't cook it that way. The fatty acids are probably
    heat-proof anyway otherwise not much point in eating cooked fish.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Billy said:


    In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    > Bob, I think it's nice paired with those soba noodles and whatever
    > else.
    > Adds a tiny bit of crunch. I usually put a little of whatever leftover
    > meat
    > or veggies or in the fridge, along with some soup base or broth.
    > Edrena

    Or you can try this New Mexican way of preparing purslane (verdolaga)

    2 cups purslane
    4 tbs fat (lard is good here) or 1/2 cup diced salt pork
    2 tbs chopped onion
    1 cup shredded cooked meat (jerky preferred)
    1 tsp ground coriander seed
    salt to taste

    Wash purslane leaving stems. Fry onion in fat; add purslane and meat.
    Season. Cover and cook until tender.

    You realize, I trust, that you just killed 2 cups of purslane and their
    health benefits. The omega-3 fatty acids are meant to protect against
    heart disease not facilitate it.
    --

    ROTFL! So don't cook it that way. The fatty acids are probably
    heat-proof anyway otherwise not much point in eating cooked fish.

    ROTFL! Do you understand anything about saturated fats?
    --
    FB - FFF

    Billy

    Get up, stand up, stand up for yor rights.
    Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
    - Bob Marley

  7. "blake murphy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:06:18 GMT, "The Joneses" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:


    (cliporama)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have you made many things from the book? i have it, but haven't
    cooked from it, as i have no garden or gardening friends or other
    ready source of bulk vegetables. all the recipes sound great.

    your pal,
    blake


    Lots actually, and lots more bookmarked. I think pickle recipes are easier
    to divide or multiply because they are less dependant on chemistry to
    work.
    That's not quite a true statement, but I think you get what I mean. One
    can
    always tell a favorite cookbook by the dog-eared pages, spots and worn
    spots
    in the binding. This may be one book I'll wear out.
    Edrena

    thanks. maybe i'll take the plunge.
    your pal,
    blake

    Hey babe
    Take a walk on the wild side...
    doo do doo do doo
    (remember that one from Lou Reed? I swear them are the lyrics right off the
    innernet) ;-)

    PS - speaking of cookbooks we use a lot, today I inquired at the local
    office supply megastore, a Kinko's franchise I believe. They will cut off
    the solid binding and put in a spiral for about US$4 and another couple
    bucks to laminate the front and back cover.
    Whoo hoo. Got one or two for them.
    Edrena

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Omelet said:


    In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    > Bob, I think it's nice paired with those soba noodles and whatever
    > else.
    > Adds a tiny bit of crunch. I usually put a little of whatever leftover
    > meat
    > or veggies or in the fridge, along with some soup base or broth.
    > Edrena

    Or you can try this New Mexican way of preparing purslane (verdolaga)

    2 cups purslane
    4 tbs fat (lard is good here) or 1/2 cup diced salt pork
    2 tbs chopped onion
    1 cup shredded cooked meat (jerky preferred)
    1 tsp ground coriander seed
    salt to taste

    Wash purslane leaving stems. Fry onion in fat; add purslane and meat.
    Season. Cover and cook until tender.

    Serve wrapped in hot flour tortillas? :-d
    --

    You could do that. Or serve it on fresh fry bread or with rice.

    Rice sounds good...

    I was just thinking "Texas style".
    That recipe almost sounds like a taco meat recipe. Just needs more
    additions such as Garlic and Cumin.
    --
    Peace, Om

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    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Billy said:


    In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    > Bob, I think it's nice paired with those soba noodles and whatever
    > else.
    > Adds a tiny bit of crunch. I usually put a little of whatever leftover
    > meat
    > or veggies or in the fridge, along with some soup base or broth.
    > Edrena

    Or you can try this New Mexican way of preparing purslane (verdolaga)

    2 cups purslane
    4 tbs fat (lard is good here) or 1/2 cup diced salt pork
    2 tbs chopped onion
    1 cup shredded cooked meat (jerky preferred)
    1 tsp ground coriander seed
    salt to taste

    Wash purslane leaving stems. Fry onion in fat; add purslane and meat.
    Season. Cover and cook until tender.

    You realize, I trust, that you just killed 2 cups of purslane and their
    health benefits. The omega-3 fatty acids are meant to protect against
    heart disease not facilitate it.
    --

    ROTFL! So don't cook it that way. The fatty acids are probably
    heat-proof anyway otherwise not much point in eating cooked fish.

    I think he was critical of the addition of Lard and Salt Pork. ;-)
    For those that still believe that eating animal fat is unhealthy, it
    would sound like Heart attack on a plate.
    --
    Peace, Om

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    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  10. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Billy said:
    Quoted message said:

    ROTFL! So don't cook it that way. The fatty acids are probably
    heat-proof anyway otherwise not much point in eating cooked fish.

    ROTFL! Do you understand anything about saturated fats?
    --
    FB - FFF

    Billy

    Do you?
    --
    Peace, Om

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  11. On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:19:06 -0500, Omelet <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I think he was critical of the addition of Lard and Salt Pork. ;-)
    For those that still believe that eating animal fat is unhealthy, it
    would sound like Heart attack on a plate.

    From what I have read, lard has less saturated fat than butter. So in
    the grand scheme of things, it is healthier for you than butter. Go
    figure.

    I used lard this weekend in making pate brisee...but I did only 1/4 of
    the amount of fat this way. The rest was butter.

    And I am not ashamed.

    Christine

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Christine Dabney said:

    On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:19:06 -0500, Omelet <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I think he was critical of the addition of Lard and Salt Pork. ;-)
    For those that still believe that eating animal fat is unhealthy, it
    would sound like Heart attack on a plate.

    From what I have read, lard has less saturated fat than butter. So in
    the grand scheme of things, it is healthier for you than butter. Go
    figure.

    I used lard this weekend in making pate brisee...but I did only 1/4 of
    the amount of fat this way. The rest was butter.

    And I am not ashamed.

    Christine

    I'd eat that... ;-d
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  13. Billy said:


    In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Billy said:


    In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    > > Bob, I think it's nice paired with those soba noodles and whatever
    > > else.
    > > Adds a tiny bit of crunch. I usually put a little of whatever leftover
    > > meat
    > > or veggies or in the fridge, along with some soup base or broth.
    > > Edrena
    >
    > Or you can try this New Mexican way of preparing purslane (verdolaga)
    >
    > 2 cups purslane
    > 4 tbs fat (lard is good here) or 1/2 cup diced salt pork
    > 2 tbs chopped onion
    > 1 cup shredded cooked meat (jerky preferred)
    > 1 tsp ground coriander seed
    > salt to taste
    >
    > Wash purslane leaving stems. Fry onion in fat; add purslane and meat.
    > Season. Cover and cook until tender.

    You realize, I trust, that you just killed 2 cups of purslane and their
    health benefits. The omega-3 fatty acids are meant to protect against
    heart disease not facilitate it.
    --

    ROTFL! So don't cook it that way. The fatty acids are probably
    heat-proof anyway otherwise not much point in eating cooked fish.

    ROTFL! Do you understand anything about saturated fats?

    Yes indeed. That's why I eat them in moderation. The dish can be cooked
    in veg oil as is commonly done around here.

  14. Christine Dabney said:


    On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:19:06 -0500, Omelet <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I think he was critical of the addition of Lard and Salt Pork. ;-)
    For those that still believe that eating animal fat is unhealthy, it
    would sound like Heart attack on a plate.

    One uses lard *or* salt pork, not both together. And most dried meats
    aren't very fatty as they wouldn't keep for long.

    Quoted message said:


    From what I have read, lard has less saturated fat than butter. So in
    the grand scheme of things, it is healthier for you than butter. Go
    figure.

    I used lard this weekend in making pate brisee...but I did only 1/4 of
    the amount of fat this way. The rest was butter.

    And I am not ashamed.

    Christine

    No need to be. We use about one lb of lard per year and that includes
    the New Year's tamales.

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Omelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Billy said:


    In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    > > Bob, I think it's nice paired with those soba noodles and whatever
    > > else.
    > > Adds a tiny bit of crunch. I usually put a little of whatever
    > > leftover
    > > meat
    > > or veggies or in the fridge, along with some soup base or broth.
    > > Edrena
    >
    > Or you can try this New Mexican way of preparing purslane (verdolaga)
    >
    > 2 cups purslane
    > 4 tbs fat (lard is good here) or 1/2 cup diced salt pork
    > 2 tbs chopped onion
    > 1 cup shredded cooked meat (jerky preferred)
    > 1 tsp ground coriander seed
    > salt to taste
    >
    > Wash purslane leaving stems. Fry onion in fat; add purslane and meat.
    > Season. Cover and cook until tender.

    You realize, I trust, that you just killed 2 cups of purslane and their
    health benefits. The omega-3 fatty acids are meant to protect against
    heart disease not facilitate it.
    --

    ROTFL! So don't cook it that way. The fatty acids are probably
    heat-proof anyway otherwise not much point in eating cooked fish.

    I think he was critical of the addition of Lard and Salt Pork. ;-)
    For those that still believe that eating animal fat is unhealthy, it
    would sound like Heart attack on a plate.


    A triple by-pass actually.

    What source do you have that fats that are solid at room temperature are
    healthy?
    --
    FB - FFF

    Billy

    Get up, stand up, stand up for yor rights.
    Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
    - Bob Marley

  16. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Billy said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think he was critical of the addition of Lard and Salt Pork. ;-)
    For those that still believe that eating animal fat is unhealthy, it
    would sound like Heart attack on a plate.


    A triple by-pass actually.

    What source do you have that fats that are solid at room temperature are
    healthy?
    --
    FB - FFF

    Billy

    http://tinyurl.com/yw9s9v

    I'd suggest you do more research.
    More and more, high triglyceride levels appear to cause more damage.

    Guess what causes them to be high?

    It's not fat...

    Mine used to run around 600 mg/dl. when I was in college.
    Now they run around 80 mg/dl.

    Fat was not what I gave up to do that.
    Oddly enough, my endocrinologist knows this and congratulates me for
    giving up sugar and starch for the most part when she sees my blood
    levels. :-)

    Don't buy soft drinks or donuts, or bread.
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  17. Omelet wrote on Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:19:16 -0500:

    ??>>> I think he was critical of the addition of Lard and Salt
    ??>>> Pork. ;-) For those that still believe that eating animal
    ??>>> fat is unhealthy, it would sound like Heart attack on a
    ??>>> plate.
    ??>> A triple by-pass actually.
    ??>>
    ??>> What source do you have that fats that are solid at room
    ??>> temperature are healthy? -- FB - FFF
    ??>>
    ??>> Billy

    O> http://tinyurl.com/yw9s9v

    O> I'd suggest you do more research.
    O> More and more, high triglyceride levels appear to cause more
    O> damage.

    O> Guess what causes them to be high?

    O> It's not fat...

    O> Mine used to run around 600 mg/dl. when I was in college.
    O> Now they run around 80 mg/dl.

    O> Fat was not what I gave up to do that.
    O> Oddly enough, my endocrinologist knows this and
    O> congratulates me for giving up sugar and starch for the most
    O> part when she sees my blood levels. :-)

    O> Don't buy soft drinks or donuts, or bread.

    That seems about as likely as the commercial where kids break a
    pinata and dive on the enclosed celery sticks with great joy!

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    E-mail, with obvious alterations:
    not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

  18. "Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Billy said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think he was critical of the addition of Lard and Salt Pork. ;-)
    For those that still believe that eating animal fat is unhealthy, it
    would sound like Heart attack on a plate.


    A triple by-pass actually.

    What source do you have that fats that are solid at room temperature are
    healthy?
    --
    FB - FFF

    Billy

    http://tinyurl.com/yw9s9v

    I'd suggest you do more research.
    More and more, high triglyceride levels appear to cause more damage.

    Guess what causes them to be high?

    It's not fat...

    Mine used to run around 600 mg/dl. when I was in college.
    Now they run around 80 mg/dl.

    Fat was not what I gave up to do that.
    Oddly enough, my endocrinologist knows this and congratulates me for
    giving up sugar and starch for the most part when she sees my blood
    levels. :-)

    Don't buy soft drinks or donuts, or bread.
    --
    Peace, Om

    To add to above, I wonder sometimes if it is from an over-indulgence of
    alcohol and/or genetics.
    I have chocolate practically every day (albeit dark) and have a glass of
    wine or port, eat lots of bread and never think about whether I'm eating
    carbs or starch and my trigl. are (almost) always below 100 -- in my younger
    years, they were much higher, but I ate less fruits and veggies. - I just
    looked and my last reading in July was 94.
    Dee Dee

  19. In article <[email hidden]>, Arri London <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    One uses lard *or* salt pork, not both together. And most dried meats
    aren't very fatty as they wouldn't keep for long.

    Except for Pemmican... (altho' a lot of modern recipes substitute peanut
    butter for tallow)

    From: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Cabin/3067/Pemmican.html

    A Recipe for Making Pemmican
    Excerpted from: The Voyageur News, Winter 1998 (Vol. 21, No.4), North
    American Voyageur Council, Inc.

    A Recipe for Making Pemmican
    Originally submitted by the Dooleys of Boise and printed in the Winter
    1981 (Vol. 4, No. 1) Newsletter for Voyageurs

    1 Batch = 3 1/2 pounds
    4 cups dried meat - depending on how lean it is, it can take 1 - 2 lbs.
    per cup. Use only deer, moose, caribou, or beef (not pork or bear). Get
    it as lean as possible and double ground from your butcher if you don't
    have a meat grinder. Spread it out very thinly in cookie sheets and dry
    at 180° overnight or until crispy and sinewy. Regrind or somehow
    break it into almost a powder.

    3 cups dried fruit - to taste mix currents, dates, apricots, dried
    apples. Grind some and leave some lumpy for texture. 2 cups rendered fat
    - use only beef fat. Cut into chunks and heat over the stove over medium
    (or Tallow) heat. Tallow is the liquid and can be poured off and
    strained.

    Unsalted nuts to taste and a shot of honey.
    Combine in a bowl and hand mix. Double bag into four portions. The
    mixture will last for quite a while without refrigeration. I have eaten
    it four years old. It actually improves with age.

    HINT: Vary the fat content to the temperature in which it will be
    consumed. Less for summer. Lots for winter. Not only is it good energy
    food for canoeing, but an excellent snack for cross country skiing.

    This recipe was originally from a Chippewayan Indian Guide as he learned
    it from his father. No buffalo chips!
    This recipe was submitted by the Dooleys of Boise. Our thanks to them.

    From http://infoplease.com/ce5/CE040041.html:
    pemmican
    Pronunciation: [pemikun]
    a travel food of the Native North American. Slices of lean venison or
    buffalo meat were sun dried, pounded to a paste, and packed with melted
    fat in rawhide bags. Dried currants or wild berries were sometimes
    included in the paste. Pacific coast Native Americans used a similar
    fish compound.
    --
    Peace, Om

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  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dee Dee said:

    "Omelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Billy said:

    > I think he was critical of the addition of Lard and Salt Pork. ;-)
    > For those that still believe that eating animal fat is unhealthy, it
    > would sound like Heart attack on a plate.
    A triple by-pass actually.

    What source do you have that fats that are solid at room temperature are
    healthy?
    --
    FB - FFF

    Billy

    http://tinyurl.com/yw9s9v

    I'd suggest you do more research.
    More and more, high triglyceride levels appear to cause more damage.

    Guess what causes them to be high?

    It's not fat...

    Mine used to run around 600 mg/dl. when I was in college.
    Now they run around 80 mg/dl.

    Fat was not what I gave up to do that.
    Oddly enough, my endocrinologist knows this and congratulates me for
    giving up sugar and starch for the most part when she sees my blood
    levels. :-)

    Don't buy soft drinks or donuts, or bread.
    --
    Peace, Om

    To add to above, I wonder sometimes if it is from an over-indulgence of
    alcohol and/or genetics.
    I have chocolate practically every day (albeit dark) and have a glass of
    wine or port, eat lots of bread and never think about whether I'm eating
    carbs or starch and my trigl. are (almost) always below 100 -- in my younger
    years, they were much higher, but I ate less fruits and veggies. - I just
    looked and my last reading in July was 94.
    Dee Dee

    I have no doubt that there is a genetic factor.

    I can eat some of that stuff as treats but if it's the main part of my
    diet, all bets are off.

    My dad's used to run pretty high too so I probably inherited it from him.
    His were up around 800 at one point. Now with our diet overhaul, his
    stay under 150 most of the time. Mine are lower as I try a little
    harder. ;-)

    "Know thyself".

    The thing is, if you trend towards hyperlipidemia, a dietary overhaul is
    certainly in order.

    But don't just look at saturated fats as the cause...
    I've known more than one person that tried cutting fat and still drank
    soda and ate "fat free" cookies by the box full.

    They ended up on Statins.
    --
    Peace, Om

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