Bob wrote:
> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > Bob <
[email protected]> wrote in message news:<
[email protected]>...
> >
> >>Gamma M_un wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:35:52 GMT, Stephen Nagler <
[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Dr. Chung -
> >>>>
> >>>>It was a politely asked question from a person seeking advice on this newgroup. If the reasons
> >>>>that you refuse to answer were "obvious" to him, he wouldn't have asked the question in the
> >>>>first place. So why the hell be an asshole and insult the man like that? It's really not very
> >>>>Christian, you know. Just explain the situation politely and give him some suggestions
> >>>>regarding where he might find the answer to his question. Or are kindness and *true* humility
> >>>>beneath you?
> >>>
> >>>"Question for the cardiologists"
> >>>
> >>>Are you claiming now to be a cardiologist?
> >>
> >>Like Dylan said, "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows."
> >>
> >>And you certainly blow.
> >>
> >>Bob
> >
> > Would suggest you stop obsessing about Mu.
>
> Would suggest that Chung stop pretending to knowledge he doesn't have.
Who's pretending?
>
> That's the demonstrated definition of quackery.
It is.
> As he has done before.
In your feigned delusions.
>
> That's why I have called him a quack repeatedly.
>
You continue to feign delusion:
http:/www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp
Do you think anyone will believe you?
Do you even believe you?
>
> > Life is too short.
>
> True.
>
> > Spend what little time you have left with your family.
>
> "Little time...?
"Life is too short."
> Does Chung pretend to read god's mind as he does everybody else's?
>
No, I am not God.
>
> > Fill your heart with love and empty it of hate.
>
> Words for Chung and Mu_dpie to begin to live by. Start showing love.
Seems that this "English is my fifth language" disease is contagious
>
> Stop showing the soul-destroying hate that consumes them both.
A little projection, perhaps?
> The hate that makes them deliberately try to cause pain.
Why does the truth cause you pain?
> The hate that makes Mu_nchkin troll.
The untruthful see hate when there is love.
> The hate that marks Chung's snips and macros.
>
The truth is hateful to the untruthful.
>
> > Would suggest you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.
>
> Poor demented, deluded, dishonest Chung. Can't read the words on his screen and can't understand
> the ones he can make out. This is a dead topic.
Christ has risen
His would be living topic.
> All the information that Chung needs he has gotten repeatedly.
If that were true, I would be all-knowing and a god. I am neither.
>
> His choice to deny the truth is his own debilitated state in clear outline.
When have I denied Christ?
I do recall Dr. Nagler begging me to.
> Poor, sad, clownish Chung.
>
Have you been eating those mushrooms again, Bob?
>
> > Only He can save you from your obsessions.
>
> What a perfectly stupid thing to say.
>
Truth is stupid to the untruthful.
>
> Bob
My guess is you are ashamed of your name.
http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp
You remain in my prayers, neighbor
May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that you will receive
eternal life.
FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the
message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it.
If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:
(1) Yell at Bob
(2) Report Bob to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.
This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at:
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His
participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of
community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious
beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched:
http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp
From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound
diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach
and have lost the argument soundly at every point:
http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp
These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s).
However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have
redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be
"if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger."
Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the
cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting
"flame" wars.
These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made:
(6) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(7) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-
ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see:
http://tinyurl.com/levc
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual
diplomas).
Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack
Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable
example is Mr. Pastorio:
http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp
When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the
darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero.
Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can
easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at:
http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp
where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials
were bought are easily and summarily debunked.
Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue
to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):
(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author.
and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.
It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed.
It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from
the peanut gallery.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
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