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donquijote1954

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"the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."

I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
You can even get a chopper bicycle!

Isn't this cute?

http://www.phatcycles.com/soon.htm

(I meant the girl)


Hang Up and Drive

I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
ear).

Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
never touched her. I landed on top of the bike, fortunately, emerging
with a badly bruised elbow (not to mention a rip in my leather jacket)
and a pretty nasty welt on my upper thigh. The motorcycle got beaten up
pretty good but everything was put right for about $400 -- more than
the bike itself is probably worth.

As I looked up, with murder in my heart, off she went, oblivious to
what had just happened behind her. I hope that phone call was her
boyfriend, dumping her.

Even before the accident, my motorcycle was no gleaming machine -- no
snarling, customized Harley with the chrome pipes polished to within an
inch of its owner's life. It's an '86 Honda Shadow. At 500cc, it's
nimble enough for city riding while packing enough power for the road,
as long as the road isn't too long. The seat's kinda ripped up, there's
some rust and it's got its share of dings and dents. But it runs OK,
costs about $4 at the gas pump and, best of all, you can park it pretty
much where you like.

It's also a freakin' death trap.

The most hard-core biker -- even the biggest fat guy straddling the
baddest hog -- knows that riding a motorcycle is inherently dangerous.
There's no such thing as a "minor" motorcycle accident, aside from
maybe dropping the bike on your foot. We know this, but we accept the
risk of riding.

Why? Well, some of us are probably just stupid. There's the thrill
factor, of course, and it is fun. It's also relatively cheap, you can
maneuver through heavy traffic and you always look cooler than even the
coolest dude in his Euro sports car. Because you are cool, and he's
just a loser who dropped 60 grand on a penis extender.

Why is it that only a handful of states have made it illegal to talk on
the phone while driving? Driving is not something you do as an
afterthought, OK? You're hurtling down the road behind the wheel of a
3,000-pound vehicle (more like 7,000 pounds in that idiotic destroyer
of worlds, the Hummer) and it doesn't take a physicist to figure out
that if you hit a human being -- astride a motorcycle, riding a bicycle
or on foot -- you're going to do some damage.

And it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an IT guy or a professional
poker player to understand that anything you do -- like talking on the
phone -- that distracts you from the business of driving increases the
chances of causing a serious accident.

So do everybody a favor and turn off your cell phone while you drive.
(It's OK. Your important life can wait while you zip over to the mall.)
If you have to make a call this very minute, pull over. This ain't
exactly brain surgery, but it might help prevent some of it, you know?

Then there are the vehicles themselves. Hummers aside, have you seen
the size of some these, these ... well, when Paw drove to town we used
to call them pickup trucks. Now? Pickup trucks on steroids, maybe. (A
truck that seats six adults: What genius dreamed that one up?)

They're huge. They ride high. Too high. There's a hood the size of
Rhode Island out in front of you, blotting out the sun. It makes it
even harder to see what's out there. If it was easy to miss a biker
when you were driving your Volvo station wagon, well, try checking your
field of vision in one of these mesomorphic babies. Of course, you're
probably so busy cranking up that Slayer CD that you'd miss Sonoma
Sammy at full throttle on his Fatboy. RIP, Sammy.

Car manufacturers are also tarting up their vehicles with all sorts of
things that, when used like most humans tend to use them, distract you
from watching the road. GPS (What? You can't pull over and read a
map?), high-end sound systems requiring your full attention to operate
and -- what in God's name were they thinking? -- in-dash video
monitors: These have no place in a motor vehicle. Cars exist to convey
you from one place to another. They are not concert halls or TV
babysitters for cranky children. (Teach the kid to read. Better yet,
teach him to love to read, then give him a book, fer crissake.)

What about the motorcycles themselves? They're bigger, faster and more
dangerous than ever. Why would anyone want to ride a motorcycle capable
of doing 150 mph? So they can scrape you off the road with a spatula
instead of dumping you in a body bag?

But the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period.

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"donquijote1954" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
> listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
> is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."
>
> I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
> about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
> importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
> Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
> deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
> bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
> a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
> You can even get a chopper bicycle!
>
> Isn't this cute?
>
> http://www.phatcycles.com/soon.htm
>
> (I meant the girl)
>
>
> Hang Up and Drive
>
> I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
> the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
> phone to her ear, but she also had the green light



Maybe you should pay attention to the road instead of the driver in the car
and if they have a phone to their ear or not.
 
donquijote1954 wrote:
> "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
> listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
> is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."
>
> I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
> about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
> importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
> Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
> deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
> bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
> a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
> You can even get a chopper bicycle!
>
> Isn't this cute?
>
> http://www.phatcycles.com/soon.htm
>
> (I meant the girl)
>
>
> Hang Up and Drive
>
> I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
> the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
> phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
> traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
> words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
> for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
> ear).
>
> Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
> unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
> been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
> back seat.


You had one more choice: Stop the bike properly....
Sounds like some riding lessons are in order....

--Rayvan

Hint: A motorcycle stops faster if you use the brakes properly because
rubber has much better grip than does metal and flesh...
 
donquijote1954 wrote:
> "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
> listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
> is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."



.....#1 nemesis = inattentive RIDER!......



>
> Hang Up and Drive
>
> I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
> the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
> phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
> traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
> words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
> for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
> ear).
>
> Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
> unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her,



So, you had time to note what sex the driver was and what she was doing
inside her car......but weren't ready to stop if she did something stupid.

You say you were at the speed limit......I don't know about where you
are from, but we have a rule that you must be able to stop in half the
distance visible in your lane and a 'two second' rule for when you are
following a vehicle.
 
"BrianNZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> donquijote1954 wrote:
>> "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
>> listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
>> is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."

>
>
> ....#1 nemesis = inattentive RIDER!......
>
>
>
>>
>> Hang Up and Drive
>>
>> I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
>> the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
>> phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
>> traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
>> words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
>> for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
>> ear).
>>
>> Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
>> unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her,

>
>
> So, you had time to note what sex the driver was and what she was doing
> inside her car......but weren't ready to stop if she did something stupid.
>
> You say you were at the speed limit......I don't know about where you are
> from, but we have a rule that you must be able to stop in half the
> distance visible in your lane and a 'two second' rule for when you are
> following a vehicle.


It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of the
"cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
rider.
 
Dt Lemons 1900 wrote:
> It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of the
> "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
> rider.


That's 'Cager' to you.

Statistically speaking, the car driver is found to be at fault in just
over 75 percent of all car-bike crashes, according to the NHTSA. So no,
it's not ALWAYS the cager's fault. Just most of the time.

As for the rest of Donkey-Hotay's original post: complete drivel.
Cagers in metro areas run over bicyclists at an alarming rate, as well.
Robbing yourself of a motorcycle's potentially life-saving horsepower
and handling for the sake of pedal power is nonsensical.

Tim Kreitz
2003 ZX7R
2000 ZX6R
http://www.timkreitz.com
 
Dt Lemons 1900 wrote:

>
> It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of the
> "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
> rider.
>
>


The other day, when a guy asked me why I thought there were so many
accidents involving bikes where the driver pulled out in front of
them......I put a lot of the blame on speeding motorcyclists, who will
swear black and blue that they were doing the speed limit when the
accident happened (that way it IS the cars fault....no-one wants a ticket!).

I understand the motorcyclists mentality all too well.....I am
one!.....and Iv'e been on the receiving end of of 'blind' drivers....but
Iv'e also had many near misses where it was entirely my own fault. Stay
alert, stay alive!

To avoid rear ending a vehicle, you must stay at a reasonable distance
behind them.
 
"Tim Kreitz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dt Lemons 1900 wrote:
>> It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of
>> the
>> "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
>> rider.

>
> That's 'Cager' to you.
>
> Statistically speaking, the car driver is found to be at fault in just
> over 75 percent of all car-bike crashes, according to the NHTSA. So no,
> it's not ALWAYS the cager's fault. Just most of the time.
>
> As for the rest of Donkey-Hotay's original post: complete drivel.
> Cagers in metro areas run over bicyclists at an alarming rate, as well.
> Robbing yourself of a motorcycle's potentially life-saving horsepower
> and handling for the sake of pedal power is nonsensical.
>
> Tim Kreitz
> 2003 ZX7R
> 2000 ZX6R
> http://www.timkreitz.com
>


Life-saving horsepower?????
 
On 23 Oct 2006 17:03:36 -0700, "donquijote1954"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>
>I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
>the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
>phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
>traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
>words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
>for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
>ear).
>
>Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
>unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
>been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
>back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
>never touched her. I landed on top of the bike, fortunately, emerging
>with a badly bruised elbow (not to mention a rip in my leather jacket)
>and a pretty nasty welt on my upper thigh. The motorcycle got beaten up
>pretty good but everything was put right for about $400 -- more than
>the bike itself is probably worth.
>


All this proves is that you were either tail-gating or innatentive.
 
donquijote1954 wrote:
> What about the motorcycles themselves? They're bigger, faster and more
> dangerous than ever. Why would anyone want to ride a motorcycle capable
> of doing 150 mph? So they can scrape you off the road with a spatula
> instead of dumping you in a body bag?


Don't crash and 150 MPH and faster is an Adrenalin rush and then some.
Just do it where there is no chance of traffic, like way out in the
desert. 170-180+ for 10 miles and losing a CHP made my day back in 1973.
Of course the road was dead straight and slightly downhill for over 11
miles and I had no hope of combing my hair for about a week (no helmet)
but I would do it again. Death wish, I guess.
--
Bill (Sleepless biker) Baka
 
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:


hehehe.....as a convicted drunk driver and habitual speeder, I can only
assume you lost a family member to a speeding drunk driver to call them
'MURDERERS'.......Iv'e never hurt anyone :) LOL.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"donquijote1954" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
> the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
> phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
> traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
> words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
> for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
> ear).
>
> Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
> unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
> been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
> back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle.


Oh, baloney! Did she have working brake lights? Were you following at a
decent distance? (Do you know the two-second rule?) Since it was at a
traffic light, chances are the speed limit was 45 mph or less. Do you
practice hard braking? Obviously not.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Dt Lemons 1900" <YEAHRIGHT> wrote:

> It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of the
> "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
> rider.


Oh, baloney! Some of us bikers know we're more exposed to traffic
stupidity, so we advocate reasonable following distances jut for this
sort of thing.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Dt Lemons 1900" <YEAHRIGHT> wrote:

> "Tim Kreitz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Dt Lemons 1900 wrote:
> >> It's never the fault of the motorcycle rider, it's always the fault of
> >> the
> >> "cage" driver. You have to understand the mentality of the motorcycle
> >> rider.

> >
> > That's 'Cager' to you.
> >
> > Statistically speaking, the car driver is found to be at fault in just
> > over 75 percent of all car-bike crashes, according to the NHTSA. So no,
> > it's not ALWAYS the cager's fault. Just most of the time.
> >
> > As for the rest of Donkey-Hotay's original post: complete drivel.
> > Cagers in metro areas run over bicyclists at an alarming rate, as well.
> > Robbing yourself of a motorcycle's potentially life-saving horsepower
> > and handling for the sake of pedal power is nonsensical.
> >
> > Tim Kreitz
> > 2003 ZX7R
> > 2000 ZX6R
> > http://www.timkreitz.com
> >

>
> Life-saving horsepower?????


Yes. On a bicycle, the only way to get out of a situation is to stop.
With a motorcycle, there's also the option to get out of there.

Consider if I'm stopped at the end of a queue of cars waiting at a red
light. I monitor my rear-view mirror and see a car heading towards me
faster than it ought to: I sneak over between cars and ahead a few, and
avoid a rear-end collision.

Consider if I'm cruising along the freeway and some inattentive cager
decides to change lanes into me (typically after a merge). Depending on
where I am, I could brake hard and still have to deal with the
possibility of the cager also braking hard or the car behind me not
braking hard ... or accelerate out of there. (Which, since I keep good
following distance, I have room to do.)

So if you're not an experienced motorcycle rider, don't be quick to
dismiss possibilities you haven't thought of.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml
 
bill wrote:
> Don't crash and 150 MPH and faster is an Adrenalin rush and then some.
> Just do it where there is no chance of traffic, like way out in the
> desert. 170-180+ for 10 miles and losing a CHP made my day back in 1973.
> Of course the road was dead straight and slightly downhill for over 11
> miles and I had no hope of combing my hair for about a week (no helmet)
> but I would do it again. Death wish, I guess.


What bike were you on in 73 that could do 170~180+?

Or should I ask what *drugs* were you on?
--
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1980 CB750F SuperSport "CoolerKing"
 
"donquijote1954" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
> unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
> been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
> back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
> never touched her.


You must have some pretty shitty tyres... There's no part of my bike that
will stop it faster than the brakes and tyres...

P.S. Stop tailgating.

--
RCOS #7
IBA# 11465
http://imagesdesavions.com
 
donquijote1954 wrote:
> "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So


I've recently read that the #1 nemesis is the inattentive rider. A
different perspective altogether.

Greg

> listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
> is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."



>
> I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
> about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
> importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
> Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
> deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
> bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
> a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
> You can even get a chopper bicycle!
>
> Isn't this cute?
>
> http://www.phatcycles.com/soon.htm
>
> (I meant the girl)
>
>
> Hang Up and Drive
>
> I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
> the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
> phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
> traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
> words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
> for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
> ear).
>
> Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
> unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
> been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
> back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
> never touched her. I landed on top of the bike, fortunately, emerging
> with a badly bruised elbow (not to mention a rip in my leather jacket)
> and a pretty nasty welt on my upper thigh. The motorcycle got beaten up
> pretty good but everything was put right for about $400 -- more than
> the bike itself is probably worth.
>
> As I looked up, with murder in my heart, off she went, oblivious to
> what had just happened behind her. I hope that phone call was her
> boyfriend, dumping her.
>
> Even before the accident, my motorcycle was no gleaming machine -- no
> snarling, customized Harley with the chrome pipes polished to within an
> inch of its owner's life. It's an '86 Honda Shadow. At 500cc, it's
> nimble enough for city riding while packing enough power for the road,
> as long as the road isn't too long. The seat's kinda ripped up, there's
> some rust and it's got its share of dings and dents. But it runs OK,
> costs about $4 at the gas pump and, best of all, you can park it pretty
> much where you like.
>
> It's also a freakin' death trap.
>
> The most hard-core biker -- even the biggest fat guy straddling the
> baddest hog -- knows that riding a motorcycle is inherently dangerous.
> There's no such thing as a "minor" motorcycle accident, aside from
> maybe dropping the bike on your foot. We know this, but we accept the
> risk of riding.
>
> Why? Well, some of us are probably just stupid. There's the thrill
> factor, of course, and it is fun. It's also relatively cheap, you can
> maneuver through heavy traffic and you always look cooler than even the
> coolest dude in his Euro sports car. Because you are cool, and he's
> just a loser who dropped 60 grand on a penis extender.
>
> Why is it that only a handful of states have made it illegal to talk on
> the phone while driving? Driving is not something you do as an
> afterthought, OK? You're hurtling down the road behind the wheel of a
> 3,000-pound vehicle (more like 7,000 pounds in that idiotic destroyer
> of worlds, the Hummer) and it doesn't take a physicist to figure out
> that if you hit a human being -- astride a motorcycle, riding a bicycle
> or on foot -- you're going to do some damage.
>
> And it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an IT guy or a professional
> poker player to understand that anything you do -- like talking on the
> phone -- that distracts you from the business of driving increases the
> chances of causing a serious accident.
>
> So do everybody a favor and turn off your cell phone while you drive.
> (It's OK. Your important life can wait while you zip over to the mall.)
> If you have to make a call this very minute, pull over. This ain't
> exactly brain surgery, but it might help prevent some of it, you know?
>
> Then there are the vehicles themselves. Hummers aside, have you seen
> the size of some these, these ... well, when Paw drove to town we used
> to call them pickup trucks. Now? Pickup trucks on steroids, maybe. (A
> truck that seats six adults: What genius dreamed that one up?)
>
> They're huge. They ride high. Too high. There's a hood the size of
> Rhode Island out in front of you, blotting out the sun. It makes it
> even harder to see what's out there. If it was easy to miss a biker
> when you were driving your Volvo station wagon, well, try checking your
> field of vision in one of these mesomorphic babies. Of course, you're
> probably so busy cranking up that Slayer CD that you'd miss Sonoma
> Sammy at full throttle on his Fatboy. RIP, Sammy.
>
> Car manufacturers are also tarting up their vehicles with all sorts of
> things that, when used like most humans tend to use them, distract you
> from watching the road. GPS (What? You can't pull over and read a
> map?), high-end sound systems requiring your full attention to operate
> and -- what in God's name were they thinking? -- in-dash video
> monitors: These have no place in a motor vehicle. Cars exist to convey
> you from one place to another. They are not concert halls or TV
> babysitters for cranky children. (Teach the kid to read. Better yet,
> teach him to love to read, then give him a book, fer crissake.)
>
> What about the motorcycles themselves? They're bigger, faster and more
> dangerous than ever. Why would anyone want to ride a motorcycle capable
> of doing 150 mph? So they can scrape you off the road with a spatula
> instead of dumping you in a body bag?
>
> But the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
> listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
> is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period.
>
> (many replies at this link)
>
> http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,68769-0.html
>
> WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
> http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote
>
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Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), donquijote1954
trolled in rec.autos.driving:

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2006 17:03:36 -0700, "donquijote1954"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> I was riding my motorcycle to work one morning a few months ago when
>> the car in front of me stopped. Cold. The woman behind the wheel had a
>> phone to her ear, but she also had the green light. There wasn't any
>> traffic to speak of and there was nobody in front of her. In other
>> words, she stopped for absolutely no reason at all (except, probably,
>> for whatever it was someone had just whispered into her shell-like
>> ear).
>>
>> Although I was at the speed limit, her stopping was so completely
>> unexpected that I didn't have time to ride around her, which would have
>> been the usual evasion tactic. My choices: Dump the bike or visit her
>> back seat. I hit the brakes and down I went, ass over teakettle. I
>> never touched her. I landed on top of the bike, fortunately, emerging
>> with a badly bruised elbow (not to mention a rip in my leather jacket)
>> and a pretty nasty welt on my upper thigh. The motorcycle got beaten up
>> pretty good but everything was put right for about $400 -- more than
>> the bike itself is probably worth.
>>

>
> All this proves is that you were either tail-gating or innatentive.


In 15 years of almost daily motorcycle riding I never rear ended a car,
nor came remotely close. The same rules as bicycles, keep you eye on ALL
possible hazards.
I had a friend get a broken hip, but even that was not his fault since
some really old (antique) lady turned left in front of him and even
though he tried to lay it down the car clipped the rear of his bike and
tossed him at about 50 MPH.
Whenever you are on the road, Bike, cage, or even walking, you are at
the mercy of idiots.

--
Bill (Sleepless biker) Baka
 
"donquijote1954" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "the motorcyclist's No. 1 nemesis remains the inattentive driver. So
> listen up: Your job as the driver is to drive. Period. Your attention
> is focused on what's happening outside, not inside. Period."
>
> I'm assuming that you want to save the buck, and that perhaps you care
> about the environment, if not that you plain hate "cages," and, most
> importantly, that you want to avoid a senseless accident like this.
> Sure, you would say, "Why not ban the damned phones!?" But you know
> deep down it won't happen. Too much money into it, you know. So in a
> bicycle you could have let yourself go and hit the stupid woman (maybe
> a MADD member?) square on the bumper. At least I've made the switch.
> You can even get a chopper bicycle!


http://bicycleaustin.info/justice/
not the solution