Raleigh 18-23 tubing

Does anyone know what Raleigh 18-23 frame tubing is like e.g. is it some sort of re-branding of
something from Reynolds i.e. good, or actually a cheap Raleigh alternative to something from
Reynolds i.e. bad?

p.s. I got 136 in the BBC IQ test this evening - ha! - so why am I not earning £100k+ in the City?

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Don't know about the tubing, but I always thought living near the Peak District rather than London
automatically indicated a high IQ!

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"Patrick Herring" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know what Raleigh 18-23 frame tubing is like e.g. is it some sort of re-branding of
> something from Reynolds i.e. good, or actually a cheap Raleigh alternative to something from
> Reynolds i.e. bad?
>
> p.s. I got 136 in the BBC IQ test this evening - ha! - so why am I not earning £100k+ in the City?
>
> --
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Patrick Herring wrote:

> p.s. I got 136 in the BBC IQ test this evening - ha! - so why am I not earning £100k+ in the City?

Because the average IQ of >50k earners was ninety something. Sounds likea load of ole bollocks to
me. The 'non earners' had the highest average of 107, although nobody seemed to notice that this
does involve most students as well as those on the dole.

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On Sun, 4 May 2003 23:28:18 +0000 (UTC), Alex Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

>Because the average IQ of >50k earners was ninety something. Sounds likea load of ole bollocks to
>me. The 'non earners' had the highest average of 107, although nobody seemed to notice that this
>does involve most students as well as those on the dole.

And OAPs

James

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Thus spake [email protected] (Patrick Herring)

> Does anyone know what Raleigh 18-23 frame tubing is like e.g. is it some sort of re-branding of
> something from Reynolds i.e. good, or actually a cheap Raleigh alternative to something from
> Reynolds i.e. bad?

IIRC it was one above 'gas pipe' and minimally superior to standard 'gas pipe'. I think I had it on
my Raleigh Sprite, which was similar to the 'Wisp' which was available at the time.[1] There again,
it might have been '18-30' tubing. ..

[1] 1978. Wisp was 5-speed lady's mixte. Sprite was 10-speed lady's mixte I bought as a special from
JE James on Bramall Lane.

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In news:[email protected], Patrick Herring <[email protected]> typed:
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> p.s. I got 136 in the BBC IQ test this evening - ha! - so why am I not earning £100k+ in the City?

Probably added your score up wrong (or should that be right) ;-)

Tony

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Hello, This tube is as simply put as steel pipe suitable for making a cheap heavy tube for any
job you might have in mind such as, gas pipe, water pipe, or simple basic cheap horrible bikes.
Bye, John.

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Helen Deborah Vecht <[email protected]> wrote:

| Thus spake [email protected] (Patrick Herring)
|
|
| > Does anyone know what Raleigh 18-23 frame tubing is like e.g. is it some sort of re-branding of
| > something from Reynolds i.e. good, or actually a cheap Raleigh alternative to something from
| > Reynolds i.e. bad?
|
| IIRC it was one above 'gas pipe' and minimally superior to standard 'gas pipe'. I think I had it
| on my Raleigh Sprite, which was similar to the 'Wisp' which was available at the time.[1] There
| again, it might have been '18-30' tubing. ..

Thanks. I've just tried lifting the bike made of said tubing and it's significantly heavier than my
Reynolds bike even without a saddle and a back wheel. I think I'll turn down the offer of another
free frame for a re-build.

| [1] 1978. Wisp was 5-speed lady's mixte. Sprite was 10-speed lady's mixte I bought as a special
| from JE James on Bramall Lane.

Somehow I don't see JE James selling such a bike nowadays - it's either a racer or something covered
in mud (or rather, that would look not inappropriate if covered in mud). Ah, wait a minute, I've
just remembered they have two shops now. The above description is of the "techie" one - the only one
I go into since I can actually buy bike parts in it - the other one has whole ranges of "n+1 steps
above Halfords" bikes.

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>
> | [1] 1978. Wisp was 5-speed lady's mixte. Sprite was 10-speed lady's mixte I bought as a special
> | from JE James on Bramall Lane.
>
> Somehow I don't see JE James selling such a bike nowadays - it's either a racer or something
> covered in mud (or rather, that would look not inappropriate if covered in mud). Ah, wait a
> minute, I've just remembered they have two shops now. The above description is of the "techie" one
> - the only one I go into since I can actually buy bike parts in it - the other one has whole
> ranges of "n+1 steps above Halfords" bikes.

2 shops in Sheffield? They only had the one when I lived there (as well as the ones in Rotherham and
Chesterfield). Not that I ever used it - I lived nearer to the now-vanished Freewheel, and usually
took my business there, but occasionally popped to Butterworth's if I was feeling flush enough to
treat myself to Campag bits!

David E. Belcher

Dept. of Chemistry, University of York

 

[email protected] (David E. Belcher) wrote:

| [email protected] (Patrick Herring) wrote in message
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| >
| > | [1] 1978. Wisp was 5-speed lady's mixte. Sprite was 10-speed lady's mixte I bought as a
| > | special from JE James on Bramall Lane.
| >
| > Somehow I don't see JE James selling such a bike nowadays - it's either a racer or something
| > covered in mud (or rather, that would look not inappropriate if covered in mud). Ah, wait a
| > minute, I've just remembered they have two shops now. The above description is of the "techie"
| > one - the only one I go into since I can actually buy bike parts in it - the other one has whole
| > ranges of "n+1 steps above Halfords" bikes.
|
| 2 shops in Sheffield? They only had the one when I lived there (as well as the ones in Rotherham
| and Chesterfield).

Yes, they have two shops both in Bramall Lane across the road from each other. Apart from the extra
space they do look a bit like they're intended to separate the serious bikers from the riff-raff.

| Not that I ever used it - I lived nearer to the now-vanished Freewheel, and usually took my
| business there,

So did I; most annoying that it closed, and also the O-Zone one which was almost as near to my work.

| but occasionally popped to Butterworth's if I was feeling flush enough to treat myself to
| Campag bits!

That would be the Leppings Lane Butterworths rather than the Abbeydale Road Butterworths, I assume.

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> | but occasionally popped to Butterworth's if I was feeling flush enough to treat myself to
> | Campag bits!
>
> That would be the Leppings Lane Butterworths rather than the Abbeydale Road Butterworths,
> I assume.

Again, I wasn't aware that they had 2 branches. But yes, it was the one by Hillsborough footie
ground (being a quick stroll from a Supertram stop).

David E. Belcher

Dept. of Chemistry, University of York

 

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| [email protected] (Patrick Herring) wrote in message
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| >
| > | but occasionally popped to Butterworth's if I was feeling flush enough to treat myself to
| > | Campag bits!
| >
| > That would be the Leppings Lane Butterworths rather than the Abbeydale Road Butterworths, I
| > assume.
|
| Again, I wasn't aware that they had 2 branches. But yes, it was the one by Hillsborough footie
| ground (being a quick stroll from a Supertram stop).

Ah, not off the same tree just two Mr Butterworths in this case. The above one sold me some nice
Campy Record shifters from their box-of-bits for my rebuild, just so I could say my bike's equipped
with Campagnolo gear. The other Butterworths is, I believe, also good but not to that level.

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