H'es only 5' 9". Just for the record.whiteboytrash said:I mean how many 6ft 4 emaciated blonde Danish blokes do you see in that country ? loads....
H'es only 5' 9". Just for the record.whiteboytrash said:I mean how many 6ft 4 emaciated blonde Danish blokes do you see in that country ? loads....
At the risk of responding seriously to a question that might have been facetious, riders are not invited to the Tour. Teams are.Trajectum said:By the way. Just ypothetically speaking.. Rasmussen has been fired from his team and therefore did not start. If you are fired from your team are you also automatically disqualified from the tour itself?
Say.. If he would have been stubborn and arrived at the start line in a plain yellow jersey would he have been halted by the ASO?
Nah I was actually serious I can be a bit dumb sometimes. Anyway of course I know that teams get invited to the tour as opposed to individual riders but I wonderred if.. hmm.. how to say.. well.. once the tour is underway.. I mean.. Like.. as in.. ehm...IH8LANCE said:At the risk of responding seriously to a question that might have been facetious, riders are not invited to the Tour. Teams are.
helmutRoole2 said:I don't want to say that professional cyclists are idiots -- maybe they've got other more important things to think about -- but yeah, it's pretty easy to prove your whereabouts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDE_World_Chess_Championship_2006#Controversiesdonrhummy said:The sad thing is every competition today probably has doping. I'd bet that chess matches probably are littered with guys taking amphetamines or some other concentration drug.
I second that. When has he ever been under any suspicionBelgianDude said:Cadel Evans has a very good reputation
Well.. He cant be fully clean, let there be no doubts about that. But then again.. noone in the top ten can be completely clean. He'd have to be superman to ride in 2nd place GC undoped against an utterly doped field and I dont think he is superman.Scotttri said:I second that. When has he ever been under any suspicion
An example may be that you look at he firstfew riders accross the line and they look fine, you look at cadel and he needs to be carried away. he is digging deep, and is extremely ( naturaly ) talented, i strongly think he is clean, and no it's not cause he's aussie and so am i.Trajectum said:Well.. He cant be fully clean, let there be no doubts about that. But then again.. noone in the top ten can be completely clean. He'd have to be superman to ride in 2nd place GC undoped against an utterly doped field and I dont think he is superman.
Then again.. he is as clean as it gets I suppose. He doesnt seem to be pushing the limits of it. And he's also a quite likeable guy. So the 25 % inside me that still cares about the tour (my tv is ofas a form of protest today ) hopes that he will ride a really good ITT and take the lead.
I'm not accusing him dont get me wrong. I think he is as clean as it gets in the top of the GC. But you are underestimating the effect of doping on performances (not just the doping in the tour but also, and more so, the doping during the preparation and training stage). The effect is huge.Scotttri said:An example may be that you look at he firstfew riders accross the line and they look fine, you look at cadel and he needs to be carried away. he is digging deep, and is extremely ( naturaly ) talented, i strongly think he is clean, and no it's not cause he's aussie and so am i.
Humm...........didn’t he ride for T-Mobile, and haven't there been some recent revelations regarding doping in the recent past.......I am sure he was the only one who didn't partake.Scotttri said:I second that. When has he ever been under any suspicion
thoughtforfood said:Humm...........didn’t he ride for T-Mobile, and haven't there been some recent revelations regarding doping in the recent past.......I am sure he was the only one who didn't partake.
>>>sighh<<< Read the articles again, please. Rasmussen hasn't been expelled or disciplined by the UCI for missing the dope tests. He was fired by his team for lying to them. As far as Rabo is concerned, this isn't an allegation. He admitted to it directly to a Rabo executive. Perhaps Rabo's decision was rash and overzealous, but an employer has the contractual right to kick you out the door if you do not perform your work in good faith. I don't like being lied to, so I can understand where Rabo is coming from.hukkaloogey said:But the facts remain. Rasmussen's only transgression is not showing up for two out-of-comeptition dope tests. Their is no requirement for expulsion or any disciplanary action required by the UCI for this.
I think there is more going on here than meets the eye.... Conspiracy theory if you will, i think RM was about to be busted, but Rabobank fired him first to avoid the negative PR that having a doped winner would bring to both the team and sponsors.. Let's face it money makes the tour go round.hukkaloogey said:um... read my post again, that's precisely what I said... Rabobank fired him, and the UCI did not punish him because he did not break their rules (notwithstanding the just mentioned 45-day rule of which I am not aware and cannot find). It was their prerogative to fire him because he broke internal rules. I think it was a bad decision.
I agree, this was a pure CYA move by Rabobank. They are trying to limit their losses at this point.warriorcliff77 said:I think there is more going on here than meets the eye.... Conspiracy theory if you will, i think RM was about to be busted, but Rabobank fired him first to avoid the negative PR that having a doped winner would bring to both the team and sponsors.. Let's face it money makes the tour go round.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/25/sports/EU-SPT-CYC-Tour-de-France-Vinokourov.phpLeni said:I'm new to the forum and want to know if Rass or Vino have made any official statements...
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