Rasmussen: the next great timetrial specialist -- and thoughts on Jan

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  1. rejobako

    rejobako New Member

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    1) Great Tour: much respect to the podium boys, and to Vinokourov for spicing things up along the way.

    2) Why is everyone all over Rasmussen for his problems yesterday? Consider this: he had bike changes, flat tires, and fell of his bike twice, and still finished 97 places higher than he did in his last time trial on stage 1. At this exponential rate of improvement, he looks likely to be the next great time trial specialist. Add that to his prowess in the mountains, and I think we're seeing the next 7 time Tour champion. . . . . . or not.

    3) OK, I will freely acknowledge that I was wrong about Ullrich winning the time trial stage, but only by less than half a minute, and aside from LA, he was the class of the field. I have really learned to like Ullrich over the years. He makes no excuses, simply vows to do his best, and as always, at the end of the Tour looks to be the only one in the field gaining strength along with his nemesis. Now that Armstrong has retired, Ullrich is my favorite rider in professional cycling, and I hope he returns to the TdF next year to win it, and . . .

    4) Don't know if it's been discussed, but I think I'm correct in stating that if Jan finishes on the podium next year, he'll tie Poulidor for most podium finishes. If he could manage to get there by creating a "Lance sandwich" (winning the TdF before and after Armstrong's dominance), Jan would achieve something monumental in his own right.

    This day is always bittersweet for me; I realize we are still in midseason, but there's nothing quite like the TdF, and certainly it will be quite some time before I'm able to indulge my craving for televised cycling on a daily basis here in the United States, where the typical person thinks "Vuelta" is the name of a latin supermodel. :mad:
     
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  2. patch70

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    I hear you. Another 49 weeks before any regular TV coverage of cycling (other than brief snippets maybe). At least I can get to sleep before 2 am now.
     
  3. mr tibbs

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    and sleep in past 7 am...
     
  4. spockroyaltea

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    i can see rasmussen winning the KOM again next year, but i doubt he will ever be good at anything beside riding up hills. he is too old to become a true GC contender. i must say that i am impressed by the fact that he wrecked twice and didn't get last in that time trial, but i doubt that all the riders were going all out anyways. it is my understanding that he did so poorly on the first TT so that he would not be a threat to the overall GC when he went on his breakaway to get KOM points.
     
  5. temp3st

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    I echo your thoughts here. Ullrich has long been my favourite rider - I admire his honesty and his guts. I also like the fact that he appears human and, at times, flawed. I believe Ullrich has the most natural cycling ability of any current rider - Armstrong included and he is a genuine nice guy. Now if only he could sort out his training!!
    I look forward to his next adventure.
     
  6. jhuskey

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    [2) Why is everyone all over Rasmussen for his problems yesterday? Consider this: he had bike changes, flat tires, and fell of his bike twice, and still finished 97 places higher than he did in his last time trial on stage 1. At this exponential rate of improvement, he looks likely to be the next great time trial specialist. Add that to his prowess in the mountains, and I think we're seeing the next 7 time Tour champion. . . . . . or not.


    Rasmussen is 31 he probably has 2 maybe 3 more years,historically speaking.
    Too bad he was on his MTB for so long.
    Thomas Voeckler looked promising last year. It does go to say how special guys like Lance,Ivan, Jan and their predessors are.
     
  7. wolfix

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    What I do not understand is the misconception that Ullrich has the most natural cycling talent of any current rider. I am a Ullrich fan. But I believe that this misconception has led to the belief that all he has to do is train and he will automatically win the TDF. The talk is always about how he is the greatest TT'er in the TDF. Ullrich showed us this year that he was a fighter when the road turned up, but he was almost dropped many times.
    Armstrong has outclimbed him in the mountains , humiliated him in the TT's , and never had to outsprint Ullrich because Ullrich has never been in a position to sprint. He has nice "results" but not for a man who supposedly has the most natural talent in the peleton. His crashes prove that he is not a great bike handler. Vino's rebellion this year and maybe last year shows that Ullrich is not a leader of a team. I do not know for sure, but I bet Zabel is the real leader on T-Mobile.
    He is a rider that seems to be a nice guy. And I am pulling for him next year. I actually pulled for him for several years in the beginning of LA's win streak.
     
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    Do you know what "pulling" means here in Australia? I suspect not :D
     
  9. mitosis

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    Cycling central, SBS, sunday mornings, plus the odd snippet as you say on world sport, SBS 7pm every nite.
     
  10. mitosis

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    It is a misconception that is shared by Lance Armstrong. I think Lance has several times referred to Ullrich as the most gifted cyclist in the peloton and the man he fears the most on the road.

    IMHO JU certainly doesn't have the organisational ability of LA and doesn't seem to have the killer instinct. It is obvious he has not had the same team support as LA seems to muster (I am not looking for excuses for JU not beating LA nor am I Lance bashing. I am just making observations). Organising ability, killer instinct and athletic ability are all needed for success in races like Le Tour and Lance has stacks of them all.
     
  11. jhuskey

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    Let me add that Ullrich was not humiliated in the TT,in my opinion. He was badly injured in the first TT and I believe he did well in the second ITT if memory serves me.
    I takes a while to recover.
    Zabel is not the leader for T-Mobile and I am not going to get into specifics but I do know why.
    I will agree that Jan does not have the same profile and emotional posture as Lance ,which does seem to hinder his ability to win.
    As far as crashes,everyone has them, even Armstrong but he has been very well prepared and very lucky.
    Luck is an important part of all sports. The very best still has to have the luck of the draw to win.
    He appears to be a man that has beaten the odds repeatedly or he is an alien from another planet and is just toying with us.
     
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