On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:49:07 +0000, Dominic Shields wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:16:08 -0500, "Roger Zoul" > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Since when is counting calories the >>only way to become thin? There are zillions of normal weight people around >>who are thin and don't count calories. > > Absolutely, I'm one of them. But that's not really what interests me, > its why something so simple is made so complex, I appreciate that > everyone is different and that's what makes things interesting, but in > this area it is easy to see how unscrupulous people cash in on the > gullible. Everyone must know at some intellectual level that there are > no miracle cures and its up to the individual to eat less and exercise > more on a permanent basis because without the change of mindset, > everything else is false. Simple to answer. Ppl who make weight loss difficult do so out of a desire to setup a scenario for failure. Match that along with the magic pill, no discipline mentality, and you have what you have. A bunch of folks playing silly games with their health and trying to optimize (maximize) the amount of food and the types of food (crap) they can (continue) to eat. Then they come to alt support groups for mostly social reasons to find others who want to play the diet game with them. And when they fail, they fail together, supporting their myths. It used to be sad, now it is annoying.