Re: 2.60 a frickin gallon!



Brenda wrote:
> I can not believe this. It just keeps going up.
> I drive 120 miles a day to my workplace. I truthfully
> dunno if I'm going to be able to afford it.


I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal and
illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption and
prices.

John
 
On 13 Aug 2005 09:28:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal and
>illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption and
>prices.


Almost all americans are immigrants.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
[email protected] wrote:
>
>Brenda wrote:
>> I can not believe this. It just keeps going up.
>> I drive 120 miles a day to my workplace. I truthfully
>> dunno if I'm going to be able to afford it.

>
>I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal and
>illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption and
>prices.


From what I've seen, the Mexicans are pretty good at car-pooling.
 
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 [email protected] wrote:

> I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal and
> illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption and
> prices.


Sure, because all those illegal immigrants buy Hummers and Excursions and
Suburbans and drive them all day...
 
On 13 Aug 2005 09:28:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>
>Brenda wrote:
>> I can not believe this. It just keeps going up.
>> I drive 120 miles a day to my workplace. I truthfully
>> dunno if I'm going to be able to afford it.

>
>I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal and
>illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption and
>prices.
>
>John


*Plonk*
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:38:03 -0400, JMW <[email protected]> wrote:

>>I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal and
>>illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption and
>>prices.


So you're trying to blame the chimps incompetence on illegal
immigrants now? C'mon, you'll have to do better than that.
There's no more or less entering our country now than there was
before.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:38:03 -0400, JMW <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>From what I've seen, the Mexicans are pretty good at car-pooling.


It's only because they're tiny, and greasy they can fit 30 of them in
the trunk of a car LOL

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:40:24 -0400, "Daniel J. Stern"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Sure, because all those illegal immigrants buy Hummers and Excursions and
>Suburbans and drive them all day...


LMAO. STEAL them maybe?

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:52:00 -0400, The Bill Rodgers <[email protected]>
wrote:

>There's no more or less entering our country now than there was
>before.


Correction: There are less since 911.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
[email protected] wrote:
> I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal and
> illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption and
> prices.


Until you get uneducated minorities to come off welfare/medicaid/food
stamps/section-8 housing; the illegals will continue to be willing to do
work that these ignorant American welfare whores are not willing to do.
Strangely, a Black high school dropout living in an inner city thinks
he/she is too good to flip burgers or mow lawns. It's not the illegals that
are the big problem; it's the $330 Billion our government distributed to
Americans in the form of handouts that is trashing this economy. The
below numbers are nauseating (especially the $300 billion to Medicaid):


http://www.os.dhhs.gov/budget/06budget/acf.html
Administration for Children and Families
Discretionary Spending
The FY 2006 discretionary budget totals $13.1 billion, a net decrease of
$719 million or 5 percent below FY 2005. This decrease primarily reflects
the elimination of programs that have been unable to demonstrate long-term
outcomes.


http://usa.usembassy.de/society-socialsecurity.htm
AFDC = Aid to Families With Dependent Children
TANF = Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
The total cost of all federal assistance programs -- including Social
Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and various welfare programs -- accounts for
nearly one-half of all money spent by the federal government. That is a
doubling of the percentage that obtained in the 1960s.


From there I was able to get real numbers:


http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/afdc/programs/afdcup.txt
Caseload and Expenditures -- Fiscal Year 1993


AFDC-UP Caseload
Average Monthly Families-------------------359­,012
Average Monthly Recipients ----------------1,488,748
AFDC-UP Benefit Expenditures
(Federal and State) -----------------$2.3 billion
AFDC-UP Average Monthly Benefits
Per Family ------------------------------­--$540.38
Per Recipient -----------------------------$­130.36


http://www.acf.hhs.gov/opa/fact_sheets/tanf_factsheet.html
Funding
- In FY 2004, $17 billion is available for TANF.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2005/hud.html
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
2005 Discretionary Budget Authority:
$31.3 billion


http://www.cms.hhs.gov/publications/overview-medicare-medicaid/defaul...
Overview of Medicaid
Title XIX of the Social Security Act is a Federal/State entitlement program
that pays for medical assistance for certain individuals and families with
low incomes and resources. This program, known as Medicaid, became law in
1965 as a cooperative venture jointly funded by the Federal and State
governments (including the District of Columbia and the Territories) to
assist States in furnishing medical assistance to eligible needy persons.
Medicaid is the largest source of funding for medical and health-related
services for America's poorest people.


http://www.kff.org/medicaid/7190.cfm
http://www.kff.org/medicaid/loader.cfm?url=/commonspot/security/getfi...
States were also helped in FY 2004 by $20 billion in temporary federal
fiscal relief including $10 billion directly for Medicaid.


For FY 2004, total Medicaid expenditures will exceed $300 billion, an amount
just slightly greater than total Medicare spending. The federal government
matches state spending for the services Medicaid covers on an open-ended
basis. The federal matching rate, known as the federal medical assistance
percentage (FMAP) varies by state from 50 to 77 percent (Figure 5).
 
Calgary wrote:
> On 13 Aug 2005 09:28:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal
>> and illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption
>> and prices.
>>
>> John

>
> *Plonk*


What a great idea - plonk all of Usenet until only you are in it; and then
you can say illegal immigration is a good thing and nobody will argue with
you. You will then also be able to say Blacks are a boon to our economy.
You are a Democrat, aren't you?


US Census
www.census.gov lists the following statistics including:

Blacks population is 35.1 million, or 13% of the total population as
of 1999.

FBI
www.fbi.gov lists some statistics including:

77 percent of murder victims in 1995 were males, and 88 percent
were persons 18 years or older. By race, 49 percent of victims
were black and 48 percent were white. 91 percent of the assailants
were males, and 85 percent were 18 years of age or older.
Fifty-three percent of the offenders were black and 45 percent were
white.


Dept. Of Justice
www.ojp.usdoj.gov

Surveys of 12 cities in 1998 found that black residents in urban areas
experienced a higher rate of violent crime than urban whites in a
majority of the cities.


US Prison System
www.prisons.org
Almost two million people are behind prison and jail bars in the
United States. 70% of the incarcerated population are people of color.
The fastest growing group of prisoners is black women. In 1994,
one in three black men between the ages of 20-29 were in prison,
jail, on probation or on parole.
In 1995, 47% of state and federal inmates were black, the largest
group behind bars. Black men were 7 times more likely than white men
to be in prison.


NAAWP
www.naawp.com
Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites
in 1992.
In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and
non-violent crimes against whites.
Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for
murder than whites under 18.
About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites,
although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than
whites.
Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were
committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by
whites against blacks.
Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
Of the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are
black against white.

National Institute of Health
www.niaid.nih.gov
Of newly infected HIV+ women, approximately 64 percent are black

Juvenile Criminal Delinquency
www.ncjrs.org
whites made up approximately 80% of the juvenile population

Black youth accounted for 31% of all delinquency cases, 37% of person
offense cases, 26% of property cases, 32% of drug cases, and 33% of
public order cases.

The person offense case rate for black youth was more than three times
greater than the corresponding rate for white youth and nearly five
times that for youth of other races. The drug law violation case rate
for black juveniles (13.4) was more than twice the rate for white
juveniles (5.3) and more than five times the rate for youth of other
races (2.5). In all offense categories, the case rates for black
juveniles and for white juveniles were higher than the
corresponding rate for other races.
 
damn right. i was in mazatlan with my friend in january at a small
beach restaurant late at night after the busses had stopped running.

the owner (small place), offered to drop us off at our hotel, so we
get in the car, and the rest of the staff (they're all friends) piled
in with us. 7-8 people in a tiny four door

of course it's unsafe, but i like how the logic was: we would take TWO
cars, or think "i'll drive down the the hotel, pop back up and pick up
the other guys" where as they did the quickest and most efficient
method.
 
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:02:41 GMT, "Hobbes" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Until you get uneducated minorities to come off welfare/medicaid/food
>stamps/section-8 housing; the illegals will continue to be willing to do
>work that these ignorant American welfare whores are not willing to do.
>Strangely, a Black high school dropout living in an inner city thinks
>he/she is too good to flip burgers or mow lawns. It's not the illegals that
>are the big problem; it's the $330 Billion our government distributed to
>Americans in the form of handouts that is trashing this economy. The
>below numbers are nauseating (especially the $300 billion to Medicaid):


Yes but remember that welfare is no longer a life-long proposition,
there are lifetime limits. So even if the numbers on AFDC are up (a
natural occurance since the chimp trashed our country) they are only
temorary.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:05:21 GMT, "Hobbes" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>You are a Democrat, aren't you?


That's republican rhetoric, not from democrats.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
The Bill Rodgers <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:38:03 -0400, JMW <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal and
>>>illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption and
>>>prices.

>
>So you're trying to blame the chimps incompetence on illegal
>immigrants now?


You might try reading the attributions, moron. Or was that just your
attempt at the Lamest Troll of the Week Award?
 
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:18:18 -0400, JMW <[email protected]> wrote:

>You might try reading the attributions, moron. Or was that just your
>attempt at the Lamest Troll of the Week Award?



I put forth facts, and the widdle republican baby crys LOLOLOL

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
In article <[email protected]>,
JMW <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Brenda wrote:
> >> I can not believe this. It just keeps going up.
> >> I drive 120 miles a day to my workplace. I truthfully
> >> dunno if I'm going to be able to afford it.

> >
> >I hope the public understands that the 2 million immigrants, legal and
> >illegal, that enter the USA yearly have an effect on consumption and
> >prices.

>
> From what I've seen, the Mexicans are pretty good at car-pooling.


We could learn from them...... ;-)

From what I get on BBC, isn't China pretty much responsible for bidding
the oil prices up?
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:35:41 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>From what I get on BBC, isn't China pretty much responsible for bidding
>the oil prices up?


The only people responsible for this is GWB, and the idiots driving
trucks and SUV's.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."
 
The Bill Rodgers wrote:
> Yes but remember that welfare is no longer a life-long proposition,
> there are lifetime limits. So even if the numbers on AFDC are up (a
> natural occurance since the chimp trashed our country) they are only
> temorary.


For each person coming off, I am sure someone else will go on. I do not
see Medicaid/Section-8/Food-Stamps/Welfare as dropping off considerably in
the future. Democrats and Republicans rarely (if ever) ask for less money
from one year to the next.

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The Bill Rodgers wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:05:21 GMT, "Hobbes" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> You are a Democrat, aren't you?

>
> That's republican rhetoric, not from democrats.


Who created welfare, section 8 housing, medicaid, and food stamps? It
was not Republicans; that's for sure.


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