Re: A different look at the helmet debate: was cycling links -

[Tumbleweed]

"JLB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
>
>> I guarantee you that in an impact at any speed a car with a seatbelt and
>> airbag is better than any helmet currently available.

Reminds me of the joke about the man driving with his wife when she tells
him she wants a divorce and all their possessions. I'm sure most have heard
it so I wont repeat it.

>
> I'm just playing games here, but how about an impact with the water after
> driving off a dockside, where the critical consideration is getting out of
> the sinking car before you drown? I'd rather have the helmet.

OK I'll play, How about if your face had impacted the windscreen or
dashboard and you were blinded by broken glass, or your legs or arms broken
by the impact, or you were concussed because the impact was at greater than
7mp aftre wich the helmet wont do you much good even according to its
makers? (try driving off Bovisand harbour wall, can be a 20ft+ drop
depending on tide)



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[JLB]

Tumbleweed wrote:
> "JLB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>Chris Phillipo wrote:
>>>I guarantee you that in an impact at any speed a car with a seatbelt and
>>>airbag is better than any helmet currently available.

>>I'm just playing games here, but how about an impact with the water after
>>driving off a dockside, where the critical consideration is getting out of
>>the sinking car before you drown? I'd rather have the helmet.

> OK I'll play, How about if your face had impacted the windscreen or
> dashboard and you were blinded by broken glass,

All that's needed to rebut Chris P is that there's *one* impact scenario
where the airbag/seatbelt is not the preferred protection. See, it was
Chris who said the airbag/seatbelt is *guaranteed* to be better in an
impact than *any* helmet. With a full face helmet, and the visor down,
in a car with a laminated windscreen, the driver is not going to be
blinded. See, it's my scenario, I get to tweak it.

or your legs or arms broken
> by the impact, or you were concussed because the impact was at greater than
> 7mp aftre wich the helmet wont do you much good even according to its
> makers? (try driving off Bovisand harbour wall, can be a 20ft+ drop
> depending on tide)

There only needs to be one scenario where the helmet comes out better.
If Bovisand does not work, look elsewhere. Broughty ferry near high
tide, maybe.

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Joe * If I cannot be free I'll be cheap

 

[David Martin]

On 29/11/04 6:24 pm, in article [email protected],
"JLB" <[email protected]> wrote:

> There only needs to be one scenario where the helmet comes out better.
> If Bovisand does not work, look elsewhere. Broughty ferry near high
> tide, maybe.

That would be here
<url:http://www.compbio.dundee.ac.uk/~dmamartin/small_IMG_1775.jpg> then..

Yes that is Igor and Rachel..

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