Re: Aggressive cows

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful
person Gordon <[email hidden]> said

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Roger <[email hidden]> wrote

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Dairy bulls are acknowledged
as dangerous even with cows which is why they are banned from paths.

Are those the ones painted black and white?

Not necessarily .. Friesians are B&W but so are some beef varieties
(which cattle farmers, like rabbit breeders, insist on calling 'Blue and
White'. Colour blind, all of them).

The nastiest (on average) dairy bulls of all are Guernseys and Jerseys,
which are pale brown / brown & white.

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GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> wrote

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful
person Gordon <[email hidden]> said

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Roger <[email hidden]> wrote

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Dairy bulls are acknowledged
as dangerous even with cows which is why they are banned from paths.

Are those the ones painted black and white?

Not necessarily .. Friesians are B&W but so are some beef varieties
(which cattle farmers, like rabbit breeders, insist on calling 'Blue and
White'. Colour blind, all of them).

The nastiest (on average) dairy bulls of all are Guernseys and Jerseys,
which are pale brown / brown & white.

I see, thanks. We saw some very strangely marked B & W cattle, the
white being like a broad band around their middles, and each 'end' being
black. Their colouring looked artificial!
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"Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I see, thanks. We saw some very strangely marked B & W cattle, the
white being like a broad band around their middles, and each 'end' being
black. Their colouring looked artificial!

We saw some like that at Hay Tor on Dartmoor the other day. One of them got
a bit frisky when someone poked a camera in its face and started a mini
stampede towards the ice cream van but that was running away rather than any
kind of attempt to inflict injury on the tourists.

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We saw some very strangely marked B & W cattle, the
white being like a broad band around their middles, and each 'end' being
black. Their colouring looked artificial!

Is that the Belted Galloway? Or is the belt colouring the other way round?

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Malcolm said:

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GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> wrote

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful
person Gordon <[email hidden]> said
>Roger <[email hidden]> wrote
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>> Dairy bulls are acknowledged
>>as dangerous even with cows which is why they are banned from paths.
>>
>Are those the ones painted black and white?

Not necessarily .. Friesians are B&W but so are some beef varieties
(which cattle farmers, like rabbit breeders, insist on calling 'Blue and
White'. Colour blind, all of them).

The nastiest (on average) dairy bulls of all are Guernseys and Jerseys,
which are pale brown / brown & white.

I see, thanks. We saw some very strangely marked B & W cattle, the
white being like a broad band around their middles, and each 'end' being
black. Their colouring looked artificial!

Anything but. They are Belted Galloways, a breed which originated in the
16th century and possibly earlier.

And very neat they look. They are really common in - wait for it -
Galloway.

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Paul

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Anything but. They are Belted Galloways, a breed which originated in
the 16th century and possibly earlier.

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Is that the Belted Galloway? Or is the belt colouring the other way round?

IIRC Black with a white belt - ( I'm either right or wrong :-) )
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:58:23 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email hidden]> wrote:

| Yes, I could take you to a field in Surrey overlooked by a big house where
| there are always signs warning of a Bull in the field, I have yet to see it.
| Could they be there to dissuade walkers from using the path in front of the
| house? Surely not. :-)

When faced with a notice about a Bull, I keep a close eye on the underneath
of the cows. ;-)

Dave F

Malcolm <[email hidden]> wrote

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I see, thanks. We saw some very strangely marked B & W cattle, the
white being like a broad band around their middles, and each 'end' being
black. Their colouring looked artificial!

Anything but. They are Belted Galloways, a breed which originated in the
16th century and possibly earlier.

Interesting! I don't remember seeing the distinctive markings before.

They were in the Yorkshire Dales AFAIR.
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Paul Rooney <[email hidden]> wrote

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Malcolm said:

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GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> wrote
>Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful
>person Gordon <[email hidden]> said
>>Roger <[email hidden]> wrote
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>>> Dairy bulls are acknowledged
>>>as dangerous even with cows which is why they are banned from paths.
>>>
>>Are those the ones painted black and white?
>
>Not necessarily .. Friesians are B&W but so are some beef varieties
>(which cattle farmers, like rabbit breeders, insist on calling 'Blue and
>White'. Colour blind, all of them).
>
>The nastiest (on average) dairy bulls of all are Guernseys and Jerseys,
>which are pale brown / brown & white.
>
I see, thanks. We saw some very strangely marked B & W cattle, the
white being like a broad band around their middles, and each 'end' being
black. Their colouring looked artificial!

Anything but. They are Belted Galloways, a breed which originated in the
16th century and possibly earlier.

And very neat they look. They are really common in - wait for it -
Galloway.

I'll mull that over.
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Gordon

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:23:25 +0100, "W. D. Grey"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

| In article <[email hidden]>, Roger
| <[email hidden]> writes
| >Is that the Belted Galloway? Or is the belt colouring the other way round?
| IIRC Black with a white belt - ( I'm either right or wrong :-) )

White with a black belt indicated they are Judo experts ;-)

Dave F

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:22:42 +0100, Gordon <[email hidden]>

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Paul Rooney <[email hidden]> wrote

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Malcolm said:

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And very neat they look. They are really common in - wait for it -
Galloway.

I'll mull that over.

Aaargh!

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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:58:23 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <[email hidden]> wrote:

| Yes, I could take you to a field in Surrey overlooked by a big house

where

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| there are always signs warning of a Bull in the field, I have yet to see

it.

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| Could they be there to dissuade walkers from using the path in front of

the

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| house? Surely not. :-)

When faced with a notice about a Bull, I keep a close eye on the

underneath

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of the cows. ;-)

Dave F

It's not illegal to have non-dairy bulls in fields with paths crossing them.
The ones I've come across have shown absolutely no interest whasoever in me.
The real problem is with adolescent bullocks, who can be a _real_ menace,
dogs or no dogs.

In such a field near me there is a longhorn bull, but no sign warning about
it. OTOH on a walk on Saturday I passed two clearly long-standing "beware of
the bull" signs. One was at the entrance to a farmyard. So they have a bull
running loose in there do they? I think not. The other was at the entrance
to a field full of sheep. I don't think they have ever grazed cattle there.
What these signs mean is clearly "walkers are not welcome here". ISTR there
was a spate of them in the Lake District immediately after the FMD
restrictctions were lifted. Not many bulls on the fells...

Brian

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>> But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS"
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>Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys.....

Ewe're quite right of course.:-)

Well, at least I didn't have to ram it home.

Fell for that - like a lamb to the slaughter.
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Brian

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Other way round. A bull with cows is (supposed to be) otherwise
occupied.

I don't believe this, and have had experience of a bull leaving a herd
to walk 300 yards to see what I was up to, then he snorted and pawed the
ground in no uncertain manner. He proceeded to sniff the ground and
follow my scent back to where I had been, then he returned to do the
pawing the ground and snorting bit again.

He didn't want me there!

We were once forced to abandon a path when we reached a field with a horse
in it. He had no intention of letting us across the stile into "his" field.

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When I asked the farmer if he could please keep the bull out of the
field the following day as we were surveying the route of an overhead
line, he told me it wasn't his bull, it was a contract bull and was
"alright" - but he wouldn't let his wife bring him in. !!!!
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Brian

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>In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm
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>>> But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS"
>>
>>Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys.....
>
>Ewe're quite right of course.:-)

Well, at least I didn't have to ram it home.

Fell for that - like a lamb to the slaughter.
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Oh deer. Can we let the buck stop with me?

Why? Are you due at a stag party?
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><[email hidden]> writes
>>> But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS"
>>
>>Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys.....
>
>Ewe're quite right of course.:-)

Well, at least I didn't have to ram it home.

Fell for that - like a lamb to the slaughter.
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Oh deer. Can we let the buck stop with me?

Bah!

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In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm
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>>In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm
>><[email hidden]> writes
>>>> But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS"
>>>
>>>Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys.....
>>
>>Ewe're quite right of course.:-)
>
>Well, at least I didn't have to ram it home.
>
Fell for that - like a lamb to the slaughter.
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Oh deer. Can we let the buck stop with me?

Why? Are you due at a stag party?

Oh dear - d'oh

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:22:17 GMT, "BrianW" <[email hidden]> wrote:

|
| It's not illegal to have non-dairy bulls in fields with paths crossing them.
| The ones I've come across have shown absolutely no interest whasoever in me.
| The real problem is with adolescent bullocks, who can be a _real_ menace,
| dogs or no dogs.

Never had any trouble with bullocks, they have no balls ;-)
http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/shared/glossary.html
in both senses of the word.

Dave F

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>In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm
><[email hidden]> writes
>>> But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS"
>>
>>Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys.....
>
>Ewe're quite right of course.:-)

Well, at least I didn't have to ram it home.

Fell for that - like a lamb to the slaughter.
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Oh deer. Can we let the buck stop with me?

Brian

OK I'll go and HIDE
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