You need a Litespeed Veneto, medium frame size. They stopped making them
after 2004, but some dealers still have new stock at discount prices.
Litespeed also has them as pre-owned bikes. The bike description is still
up on the Litespeed web site, along with a link to a geometry chart:
This frame has the longest (tallest) headtube, shortest toptube combination
of any production bike I've seen. It's a sweet ride as well.
Barry
"Steve Sr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The Previous thread was getting long and I think it is time to bend it
> in a slightly different direction. Thanks to everyone who responded
> and especially to Jay.
>
> I went back to the person who did the fit and asked some more
> questions about the data. For the conventional frame Fit Cycle here
> are the ideal frame measurments:
>
> Seat Tube = 55cm.
>
> Top Tube = 55cm (but that resulted in a 70mm stem which is no good).
> So the top tube should be 53cm with a 90mm stem or a rediculous 51cm
> with a standard 110mm stem.
>
> Seat and Head Tube Angle = 73.5 degrees.
>
> Seat to Stem Height = Stem 8mm higher than seat.
>
> I think that these are all of the important numbers. If there is
> anything that I have missed let me know and I'll try to find it.
>
> So from here it does look like I will need a bike with a shorter top
> tube to fix the reach issue and a taller front end to address the
> height issue.
>
> I was originally looking at TI bikes which led me to Serotta and
> Litespeed and ruled out the carbon Trek Pilot. It looks like a stock
> Litespeed is probably out unless a Siena can be made to fit but the
> front end might not be tall enough. The Serotta Fierte looks like it
> might be a possibility in a 54S although the seat tube is a little
> short
>
> Can anyone offer any other possibilities for similar TI bikes that
> have this characteristic geometry?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
BarryG wrote:
> You need a Litespeed Veneto, medium frame size. They stopped making
them
> after 2004, but some dealers still have new stock at discount prices.
> Litespeed also has them as pre-owned bikes. The bike description is
still
> up on the Litespeed web site, along with a link to a geometry chart:
>
> http://litespeed.com/2003/bikes/veneto.html
>
> This frame has the longest (tallest) headtube, shortest toptube
combination
> of any production bike I've seen. It's a sweet ride as well.
>
> Barry
>
>
> "Steve Sr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > The Previous thread was getting long and I think it is time to bend
it
> > in a slightly different direction. Thanks to everyone who responded
> > and especially to Jay.
> >
> > I went back to the person who did the fit and asked some more
> > questions about the data. For the conventional frame Fit Cycle here
> > are the ideal frame measurments:
> >
> > Seat Tube = 55cm.
> >
> > Top Tube = 55cm (but that resulted in a 70mm stem which is no
good).
> > So the top tube should be 53cm with a 90mm stem or a rediculous
51cm
> > with a standard 110mm stem.
> >
> > Seat and Head Tube Angle = 73.5 degrees.
> >
> > Seat to Stem Height = Stem 8mm higher than seat.
> >
> > I think that these are all of the important numbers. If there is
> > anything that I have missed let me know and I'll try to find it.
> >
> > So from here it does look like I will need a bike with a shorter
top
> > tube to fix the reach issue and a taller front end to address the
> > height issue.
> >
> > I was originally looking at TI bikes which led me to Serotta and
> > Litespeed and ruled out the carbon Trek Pilot. It looks like a
stock
> > Litespeed is probably out unless a Siena can be made to fit but
the
> > front end might not be tall enough. The Serotta Fierte looks like
it
> > might be a possibility in a 54S although the seat tube is a little
> > short
> >
> > Can anyone offer any other possibilities for similar TI bikes that
> > have this characteristic geometry?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
I keep reading the topic of this thread as BIKES WITH SHORT TUBE
TOPS....what the heck does that say about me. That's a retorical
question.
Maggie...
Happy Thursday...counting down to Friday
"Steve Sr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:56:16 -0000, "BarryG"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You need a Litespeed Veneto, medium frame size. They stopped making them
> >after 2004, but some dealers still have new stock at discount prices.
> >Litespeed also has them as pre-owned bikes. The bike description is
still
> >up on the Litespeed web site, along with a link to a geometry chart:
> >
> >http://litespeed.com/2003/bikes/veneto.html
> >
> >This frame has the longest (tallest) headtube, shortest toptube
combination
> >of any production bike I've seen. It's a sweet ride as well.
> >
> >Barry
> >
>
> You're absolutely right! I found out about the Veneto from talking to
> the Litespeed rep. The geometry looks good based on the Fit Cycle
> numbers. It appears that I'm a year too late. The rep said that it was
> discontinued because there wasn't enough demand.
>
> For this reason I haven't seen many on Ebay. The few that I have seen
> are not the right size or have the wrong drive train (I'm looking for
> a triple Ultegra). Do you know any way to get access to dealers
> inventory? Since the bike was only discontinued last year there should
> be one out there in the correct size. Does anyone have any ideas how
> to find one?
Yeah, you can do what I did. Just search the internet for Litespeed dealers
or get the list direct from Litespeed. Email or call the delaers. You
shouldn't have any problem finding a med Veneto. The dealer I found was
willing to swap components to anything I wanted or to strip it and just sell
me the frame, which is what I did. I'm building it up myself with Ultegra10
triple.
Just use Google and look for Litespeed dealer Web sites. They usually have
an email link and just send them off a canned email that you're looking for
a medium Veneto and ask them if they have one.
"Steve Sr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 02:51:03 -0000, "BarryG"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Steve Sr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:56:16 -0000, "BarryG"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >You need a Litespeed Veneto, medium frame size. They stopped making
them
> >> >after 2004, but some dealers still have new stock at discount prices.
> >> >Litespeed also has them as pre-owned bikes. The bike description is
> >still
> >> >up on the Litespeed web site, along with a link to a geometry chart:
> >> >
> >> >http://litespeed.com/2003/bikes/veneto.html
> >> >
> >> >This frame has the longest (tallest) headtube, shortest toptube
> >combination
> >> >of any production bike I've seen. It's a sweet ride as well.
> >> >
> >> >Barry
> >> >
> >>
> >> You're absolutely right! I found out about the Veneto from talking to
> >> the Litespeed rep. The geometry looks good based on the Fit Cycle
> >> numbers. It appears that I'm a year too late. The rep said that it was
> >> discontinued because there wasn't enough demand.
> >>
> >> For this reason I haven't seen many on Ebay. The few that I have seen
> >> are not the right size or have the wrong drive train (I'm looking for
> >> a triple Ultegra). Do you know any way to get access to dealers
> >> inventory? Since the bike was only discontinued last year there should
> >> be one out there in the correct size. Does anyone have any ideas how
> >> to find one?
> >
> >Yeah, you can do what I did. Just search the internet for Litespeed
dealers
> >or get the list direct from Litespeed. Email or call the delaers. You
> >shouldn't have any problem finding a med Veneto. The dealer I found was
> >willing to swap components to anything I wanted or to strip it and just
sell
> >me the frame, which is what I did. I'm building it up myself with
Ultegra10
> >triple.
> >
> >Dealers have inventory.
> >
>
> How did you go about making your list of dealers? I checked the
> Litespeed web site and the list of dealers didn't give any e-mail
> addresses. I sure don't have the time to call every dealer either.
> E-mail would be much more efficient.
>
> Did you try to get any inventory information directly from Litespeed?
> It seems that they should know where the Venetos got shipped. Although
> I'm sure they would rather sell you a new custom than help you find a
> NOS Veneto.
>
> Steve
>
