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Re: Bottom Bracket frame failure

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  1. Quoted message said:

    I just bought a vintage Torpado Superlight frame from about 1985.
    This frame is made of Columbus SLX tubing and was their top of the line

    frame from that time. The frame is in very nice condition with no rust
    and a clean bottom bracket shell. The bottom bracket shell is an
    english threaded Cinelli. Torpado cut a decorative "T" in the bottom
    bracket shell that measures about 2cm X 2cm. When my LBS professional
    looked the frame over, he was critical of the cutout. He told me that
    Torpado went out of business because of bottom bracket frame failures.
    He felt that the cutout in the bottom of the shell might cause failure
    if standing on the pedals. Does anyone have any experience with this
    issue? Especially with Torpadoes? Another employee felt that this issue

    diminished with the use of a modern cartridge bottom bracket. Any
    opinions from the group would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    Just for comparison, here are some bottom bracket designs including some extreme
    cutouts. Just go to the first one and the keep hitting next.

    http://www2.inforyoma.or.jp/~tadokoro/bb/bbindex.html

    I really don't think your Torp has a problem.

    Ron

  2. RonSonic said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just bought a vintage Torpado Superlight frame from about 1985.
    This frame is made of Columbus SLX tubing and was their top of the
    line

    frame from that time. The frame is in very nice condition with no
    rust and a clean bottom bracket shell. The bottom bracket shell is an
    english threaded Cinelli. Torpado cut a decorative "T" in the bottom
    bracket shell that measures about 2cm X 2cm. When my LBS professional
    looked the frame over, he was critical of the cutout. He told me that
    Torpado went out of business because of bottom bracket frame
    failures. He felt that the cutout in the bottom of the shell might
    cause failure if standing on the pedals. Does anyone have any
    experience with this issue? Especially with Torpadoes? Another
    employee felt that this issue

    diminished with the use of a modern cartridge bottom bracket. Any
    opinions from the group would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    Just for comparison, here are some bottom bracket designs including
    some extreme cutouts. Just go to the first one and the keep hitting
    next.

    http://www2.inforyoma.or.jp/~tadokoro/bb/bbindex.html

    I really don't think your Torp has a problem.

    Ron

    I hate to be the dissenter here, but nobody here has described WHY it's not
    an issue. Can anybody here do a quick FBD and describe why the BB shell
    itself is not a high stress point? I'm asking because I don't know and I'm
    curious myself, plus I'm putting off doing homework currently.
    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training

  3. Squid-in-Training said:
    RonSonic said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just bought a vintage Torpado Superlight frame from about 1985.
    This frame is made of Columbus SLX tubing and was their top of the
    line

    frame from that time. The frame is in very nice condition with no
    rust and a clean bottom bracket shell. The bottom bracket shell is an
    english threaded Cinelli. Torpado cut a decorative "T" in the bottom
    bracket shell that measures about 2cm X 2cm. When my LBS professional
    looked the frame over, he was critical of the cutout. He told me that
    Torpado went out of business because of bottom bracket frame
    failures. He felt that the cutout in the bottom of the shell might
    cause failure if standing on the pedals. Does anyone have any
    experience with this issue? Especially with Torpadoes? Another
    employee felt that this issue

    diminished with the use of a modern cartridge bottom bracket. Any
    opinions from the group would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    Just for comparison, here are some bottom bracket designs including
    some extreme cutouts. Just go to the first one and the keep hitting
    next.

    http://www2.inforyoma.or.jp/~tadokoro/bb/bbindex.html

    I really don't think your Torp has a problem.

    Ron

    I hate to be the dissenter here, but nobody here has described WHY it's not
    an issue. Can anybody here do a quick FBD and describe why the BB shell
    itself is not a high stress point? I'm asking because I don't know and I'm
    curious myself, plus I'm putting off doing homework currently.

    And if you're anything like me you'll stay up all night calculating what you
    want to in order to avoid homework.

    I'd be interested to see the numbers myself, but consider it a pretty well
    settled matter from a practical angle.

    Ron

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