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spindrift
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"List all your Cycling Plus and PH sign-on names then "
On Petrolheads I was Martin Crowe but someone called Ted banned me
from there because he lost the argument. There was no abuse, there was
nothing remotely anti-motorist.
Same with Cycling Plus, nothing at all anti-motorist, that's why you
are scrabbling round trying to smear people against whom you have no
argument, it's very childish.
Argue with what I've said, not your lies about what I've said.
On congestion in London , it's another myth like Ken hating cars or
the moon's made of chocolate:
The Right - in the form of the Conservative Party and much of the
press - had hyped up the failure of the scheme before C-day itself.
This may well have been a mistaken strategy, because after its first
week the notion of scrapping congestion charging lacked any
credibility. But it was just one element in a vitriolic campaign of
lies and media manipulation aimed at undermining Livingstone.
For example, the saga of the changing of traffic lights has become so
embedded in urban myth that it will probably never be overcome. (The
truth is traffic lights have been re-signalled over a long period to
bring pedestrian crossing-times in line with a national standard - a
process started by the Conservative government in 1992.) Changing
traffic lights back and abolishing road-works have become "serious"
alternatives to congestion charging, but as Professor Begg states: "if
it was simply a case of tweaking the traffic lights and trying to keep
traffic flowing, getting rid of vans that are parked on yellow lines,
it would be a lot easier.... we cannot get away from the fact that the
basic problem here is too many vehicles chasing too little road
space."
In reality, Ken Livingstone's bold experiment is the accepted solution
to congestion, and is passionately supported by environmentalists. 40%
of congestion in Britain is in London and 80% is in urban centres. If
the London scheme is even moderately successful it will be followed by
other cities in Britain and across the world.
http://www.whatnextjournal.co.uk/pages/Back/Wnext25/Congestion.html
More significantly, there have been widespread suggestions London
Mayor Ken Livingstone deliberately made congestion worse in the run-up
to the charge by adjusting traffic light phases and embarking on major
roadwork schemes.
In fact, the lights were changed to keep traffic out of Trafalgar
Square during improvement work and the roadworks were part of long-
term major schemes.
http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/articles/bbc/feb12,03.shtml
Rather too many hysterical petrolhead lies going around....
On Petrolheads I was Martin Crowe but someone called Ted banned me
from there because he lost the argument. There was no abuse, there was
nothing remotely anti-motorist.
Same with Cycling Plus, nothing at all anti-motorist, that's why you
are scrabbling round trying to smear people against whom you have no
argument, it's very childish.
Argue with what I've said, not your lies about what I've said.
On congestion in London , it's another myth like Ken hating cars or
the moon's made of chocolate:
The Right - in the form of the Conservative Party and much of the
press - had hyped up the failure of the scheme before C-day itself.
This may well have been a mistaken strategy, because after its first
week the notion of scrapping congestion charging lacked any
credibility. But it was just one element in a vitriolic campaign of
lies and media manipulation aimed at undermining Livingstone.
For example, the saga of the changing of traffic lights has become so
embedded in urban myth that it will probably never be overcome. (The
truth is traffic lights have been re-signalled over a long period to
bring pedestrian crossing-times in line with a national standard - a
process started by the Conservative government in 1992.) Changing
traffic lights back and abolishing road-works have become "serious"
alternatives to congestion charging, but as Professor Begg states: "if
it was simply a case of tweaking the traffic lights and trying to keep
traffic flowing, getting rid of vans that are parked on yellow lines,
it would be a lot easier.... we cannot get away from the fact that the
basic problem here is too many vehicles chasing too little road
space."
In reality, Ken Livingstone's bold experiment is the accepted solution
to congestion, and is passionately supported by environmentalists. 40%
of congestion in Britain is in London and 80% is in urban centres. If
the London scheme is even moderately successful it will be followed by
other cities in Britain and across the world.
http://www.whatnextjournal.co.uk/pages/Back/Wnext25/Congestion.html
More significantly, there have been widespread suggestions London
Mayor Ken Livingstone deliberately made congestion worse in the run-up
to the charge by adjusting traffic light phases and embarking on major
roadwork schemes.
In fact, the lights were changed to keep traffic out of Trafalgar
Square during improvement work and the roadworks were part of long-
term major schemes.
http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/articles/bbc/feb12,03.shtml
Rather too many hysterical petrolhead lies going around....
