Re: Dry-land training useless for swimming

Discussion in 'General Fitness' started by [email protected] (Larry Weisenthal), Mar 11, 2006.

  1. >>could you post this study? <<

    I already had posted this (on Feb. 13 or thereabouts). Here's the link

    Take home message is that cycling probably has less in common with
    running than erging has with swimming; however, increasing total
    training volume by adding in cycling improved performance in highly
    trained but sub-elite runners, while not improving performance in elite

    The Costill study quoted by Olivier was performed in elite (collegiate)
    swimmers, who already train an average of more than 3 hours per day.
    Costill did not study erging (which I think would be even better for
    aerobic conditioning and muscle fiber transformation in the lats (main
    swimming muscles) than would a swim bench). He did find that other
    types of dryland resistance training did not improve performance in
    elite swimmers. He did not study sub-elite swimmers (e.g. those
    training perhaps 2 to 3 hours per week, as opposed to > 3 hours per
    day). Many swimmers just can't make the pool time, but they could
    afford to put an $800 machine in their basement or garage. Or many
    swimmers may have injuries, preventing full overhead movements but
    allowing the fluid non-overhead lat, forearm, and core body movements,
    which are performed at a similar cadence in erging as in swimming.

    But the proof of the pudding is in the results. Unlike the more
    extensive lower body literature, there are few, if any, studies which
    indicate how adult athletes with limited pool time may effectively
    improve their performance. My prejudice is that erging could be very
    helpful in this regard.

  2. One other thing, which I mentioned previously, but only in passing.

    In short course swimming the explosion off the wall is huge. In a 200,
    there are 7 of these; in a 500, there are 19, and in a 1650, there are
    65. I know that some coaches specifically train sprinters in this,
    but, from my own pool deck workout observations, it's been a very small
    part of the focused training in the programs I've observed and learned
    about second handedly. I think that there may be more emphasis and
    specific training on the streamline and kick to the surface than on the
    actual off the wall explosion, particularly in the longer races. I
    think that erging, among its other many virtues, also trains the off
    the wall muscles.