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Re: Eschew Red Meat; Chew Legumes

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  1. Max C. said:

    Unless you can provide a link that shows the menus of the test
    subjects, this info is next to useless.

    Probably not, PMID: 16452248 abstract states

    "In colonic exfoliated cells, the percentage staining positive for the
    NOC-specific DNA adduct, O(6)-carboxymethyl guanine (O(6)CMG) was
    significantly (P < 0.001) higher on the high red meat diet. In 13
    volunteers, levels were intermediate on the high-fiber, high red
    meat diet."

    This suggests that a high fiber diet provides partial, but not
    total protection, and that seems plausible to me.

    What kind of "red meat" was

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    used? Most vegans think hot dogs are red meat and no different from a
    grass fed steak.

    Do you have such a link? I looked up the study on PubMed, but could
    only find the summary.

    You can read this one if you register.

    http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/293/2/172

    Meat Consumption and Risk of Colorectal Cancer
    Ann Chao, PhD; Michael J. Thun, MD, MS; Cari J. Connell, MPH; Marjorie
    L. McCullough, ScD; Eric J. Jacobs, PhD; W. Dana Flanders, MD, ScD;
    Carmen Rodriguez, MD, MPH; Rashmi Sinha, PhD; Eugenia E. Calle, PhD
    JAMA. 2005;293:172-182.

    Lowest risks were for the 0-30 g of red meat per day group.

    They are not really sure why but they think it's the heme:

    "The cytotoxic effect of dietary heme has been proposed as a potential
    mechanism by which red meat increases colorectal cancer risk because of
    higher heme content in red meat compared with poultry and fish.65-66
    Heme damages the colonic mucosa and stimulates epithelial proliferation
    in animal studies.66 Both ingestion of red meat and heme iron
    supplementation have been shown to increase fecal concentrations of
    N-nitroso compounds65 and DNA-adducts in human colonocytes.67-68"

    --

    If you like eating animals, you are probably better off with
    certain types of mollusks (snails, sea scallops) and insects.

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