Re: EU to force daytime use of headlights?

[Elder]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I come across them regularly
>and now the clocks have gone back I expect to see more of them.
>
You expect to see dark things without lights in dark lanes?
I would expect there to be more, but I would expect to see them less.
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[Elder]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>> I haven't noticed any cyclists riding at night without lights on
>> country lanes. I have noticed some in built up areas.
>
>I have!
>
>Alan
>
Carrots?
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[David Hansen]

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:06:36 -0000 someone who may be Elder
<[email protected]> wrote this:-

>You expect to see dark things without lights in dark lanes?

Anyone with any sense does. Trees and animals for a start.


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[Chris Malcolm]

In uk.rec.cycling Ian Dalziel <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:54:49 +0000, David Hansen
> <[email protected]> wrote:

>>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:04:14 GMT someone who may be "Ian"
>><[email protected]> wrote this:-
>>
>>>> I haven't noticed any cyclists riding at night without lights on
>>>> country lanes. I have noticed some in built up areas.
>>>
>>>Lucky you missed the ones you didn't see, then.
>>
>>Assuming there were any that I didn't see.
>>
>>>In built up areas around 50% don't have a full set of lights on.
>>
>>When people make such claims I challenge them to come to the
>>junction of leith Walk and North bridge in Edinburgh and count all
>>these cyclists without lights, as well as those who ignore traffic
>>lights. Nobody has yet taken up the offer, which implies that the
>>people concerned know they are exaggerating.

> You don't think it might just imply a reluctance to come to the
> junction of Leith Walk and North Bridge?

That's where a short-haired athletic girl I know was dragged from her
bike by some teenage thugs, who apologised and ran off in
embarrassment when they discovered she was a girl.

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[Chris Malcolm]

In uk.rec.cycling Don Whybrow <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ian Dalziel wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:54:49 +0000, David Hansen
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>When people make such claims I challenge them to come to the
>>>junction of leith Walk and North bridge in Edinburgh and count all
>>>these cyclists without lights, as well as those who ignore traffic
>>>lights. Nobody has yet taken up the offer, which implies that the
>>>people concerned know they are exaggerating.
>>
>> You don't think it might just imply a reluctance to come to the
>> junction of Leith Walk and North Bridge?

> <pedant>

> It is probably because there is no such junction!

> There is a junction of North Bridge and Princes Street/Waterloo Place.
> There is also a junction of Leith Street & Waterloo Place
> It is conceivable that this could be considered a single junction, but
> Leith Walk does not start until after the Picardy roundabout about 400
> yds away.

The local council has a habit in some places of renaming the city
streets every few blocks. The local inhabitants sensibly ignore this
confusing nonsense. As far as we're concerned Leith Walk is the
generic name of the entire street which subsumes all the local
idiopathic nomenclature.

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[Chris Malcolm]

In uk.rec.cycling Jonathan Marten <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Alan Holmes" <[email protected]> writes:
>> Perhaps the reason no one has taken up the offer is that it is
>> edinburgh you are talking about!

> Indeed. There was a recent post in another uk group summing the place
> up exactly. Unfortunately <[email protected]> is not on
> Google Groups yet, but the subject line was "Edinburgh... a
> disappointment" and the city was described as "Grimy, boring and full
> of semi-literate ignorant oafs".

> Not to mention 400 miles away.

400 miles away from what? The cleanest and most literate city in
Europe? Ah, I see! This is the famously indirect English irony

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[Alan Holmes]

"Jonathan Marten" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> "Alan Holmes" <[email protected]> writes:
>> Perhaps the reason no one has taken up the offer is that it is
>> edinburgh you are talking about!
>
> Indeed. There was a recent post in another uk group summing the place
> up exactly. Unfortunately <[email protected]> is not on
> Google Groups yet, but the subject line was "Edinburgh... a
> disappointment" and the city was described as "Grimy, boring and full
> of semi-literate ignorant oafs".
>
> Not to mention 400 miles away.
>
> (Now awaiting flames from Edinburgh residents who claim not to be
> grimy or boring...)

I once stayed in the Gorbals, when it was controlled by the mafia, or some
such other organisation, it was quite an experience!

Alan

>
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[Alan Holmes]

"David Hansen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:06:36 -0000 someone who may be Elder
> <[email protected]> wrote this:-
>
>>You expect to see dark things without lights in dark lanes?
>
> Anyone with any sense does. Trees and animals for a start.

You can see animals in dark streets, how on earth do you do that?

Alan

>
>
> --
> David Hansen, Edinburgh
> I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
> http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

 

[Alan Holmes]

"Elder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>> I haven't noticed any cyclists riding at night without lights on
>>> country lanes. I have noticed some in built up areas.
>>
>>I have!
>>
>>Alan
>>
> Carrots?

And carrots to you as well!

Alan

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> Carl Robson
> Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest
> Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

 

[Mark Thompson]

Alan Holmes quipped:

> You can see animals in dark streets, how on earth do you do that?

Not everyone rides as fast as you, Alan.

 

[Brimstone]

"Alan Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> I once stayed in the Gorbals, when it was controlled by the mafia, or some
> such other organisation, it was quite an experience!

Hint: the Gorbals isn't in Edinburgh.

 

[Dave Larrington]

In news:[email protected],
Alan Holmes <[email protected]> scribed:
> "David Hansen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:06:36 -0000 someone who may be Elder
>> <[email protected]> wrote this:-
>>
>>> You expect to see dark things without lights in dark lanes?
>>
>> Anyone with any sense does. Trees and animals for a start.
>
> You can see animals in dark streets, how on earth do you do that?

Both Mr. Sunshine and I saw (different) dead black cats[1] this morning, so
it can't be that difficult

1 - some sort of Halloween thing, I suppose

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[Don Whybrow]

Jonathan Marten wrote:
>
> Indeed. There was a recent post in another uk group summing the place
> up exactly. Unfortunately <[email protected]> is not on
> Google Groups yet, but the subject line was "Edinburgh... a
> disappointment" and the city was described as "Grimy, boring and full
> of semi-literate ignorant oafs".
>
> Not to mention 400 miles away.
>
> (Now awaiting flames from Edinburgh residents who claim not to be
> grimy or boring...)

Let me just remind myself why I moved from London to Edinburgh ...

Ah yes, for all those reasons and more, only, they applied to London.


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[Alan Holmes]

"Mark Thompson"
<pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Alan Holmes quipped:
>
>> You can see animals in dark streets, how on earth do you do that?
>
> Not everyone rides as fast as you, Alan.

I hadn't taken that into account!-)

I'm surprised you remembered!

Alan