Re: Ever get a traffic ticket?

Discussion in 'Road Cycling' started by [email protected], Dec 6, 2004.

  1. Here are some traffic ticket facts. How many traffic tickets there
    are? What to say to the police and not say and what to do if you
    decide to fight your traffic ticket by going to court. And how to
    avoid getting them in the first place.


    Although we are a traffic school, we want to help you avoid getting
    traffic tickets. Avoid having to go to a defensive driving course like
    ours and avoid paying more money on your insurance policy.


    First you need to know that there are two major types of traffic
    tickets - tickets for moving violations and tickets for non-moving
    violations. Moving violations include speeding, failure to obey
    traffic signs or lights, illegal turns, or doing anything else illegal
    while your car is in motion. Non-moving violations are for offenses
    like parking your car illegally.


    TICKET FACTS: Every year, over 34 million people receive a traffic
    ticket from a police officer. Most traffic tickets charge fines
    averaging around $150.00. 34 million tickets at $150.00 equals profits
    of over $5 billion. The money collected from traffic tickets supports
    much of our civil service industry, including police officers,
    accountants, court secretaries, bailiffs, judges, district attorneys,
    insurance companies, attorneys, and traffic schools like ours at,
    www.internettrafficschool.com


    The number one rule of not getting a traffic ticket is not putting
    yourself into the position of looking like you should get one. Here
    are some of the things you should be aware of. Your car's color,
    modifications, condition, cleanliness, and stickers.


    The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is to make sure that nothing
    about your car draws an officer's attention. Flashy and bright colors,
    particularly red, draw a person's attention, namely a cop's attention.
    Light, pastel colors have a tendency to blend with the environment and
    dark colors like black not only blend in, they look serious. So, if
    you have chosen a brightly colored vehicle, know that your chances of
    getting pulled over are higher than the racer in the black car
    speeding past you. Thus, be more wary about that you are more visible
    if your car is red.


    MODIFICATIONS:


    Any additional sound or light modifications can also draw a cop's
    attention. Neon running lights, thumping sound also mean that with
    your cool-style points, you will also get more points on your license
    (the more points you get on your license, the closer you are to losing
    your license, possibly permanently). And, cops also seem to hate
    tinted windows. If you don't have tinted windows, don't get them. If
    you do, make sure you immediately roll all of your windows down the
    minute you get pulled over. This allows the cop better vision into
    your car giving her/him more confidence about the situation. When the
    cop is relaxed, your chances of avoiding the ticket are better.


    CONDITION


    Cars, like clothes, make can make a good or bad impression. People who
    take care of their cars look like they're responsible drivers. And a
    dented car is one that has gotten into accidents before, thus catching
    a cop's eye better.


    APPEARANCE


    The cleanliness of your car also makes a definite impression with the
    cop who pulls you over. Make sure the exterior of your car is clean,
    but also focus on the interior. Clean out the inside of your car from
    clutter. Make sure that your glove box is fairly clean so that you
    don't have to search for your registration.


    STICKERS


    There are two kinds of stickers that you should really avoid, anything
    anti-cop or pro-violence. The second kind that are drug related such
    as dope stickers or Grateful Dead stickers will catch a cop's eye and
    usually lead them to make assumptions about drug use.


    TICKET QUOTAS


    Most police departments give traffic tickets on a quota system. This
    means that there are some times of the month when you are more likely
    to get a tickets. First, be wary during the first week of a month;
    this is when the most aggressive cops give out the most tickets.
    Second, be wary the last week of the month; this is the time when cops
    who haven't given many tickets are under the pressure to give out
    more. And on Sundays mornings, because it is easy to give out tickets
    to people going to church, good people = a smaller chance of getting
    shot


    GETTING PULLED OVER


    When you get pulled over, you naturally think to not say anything at
    all for fear of saying the wrong thing. TALK! Because silence is often
    an indication of something to hide.


    The first thing you need to know is what to call the cop that pulls
    you. So you need to try to guess the officer's proper title:


    If the officer's uniform has three or more stripes, chances are, (s)he
    is a Sergeant.
    One or two stripes usually indicates a Corporal.
    An officer with no stripes but in a State Police car is a Trooper. No
    stripes and a County car is a Deputy. If you aren't sure, stick with
    "Officer."


    DO NOT treat a female cop differently. Don't say anything to a female
    cop that you would not say to a male cop.


    HOW TO GET OUT OF IT


    CRY: If you're willing to try to get out of a ticket you probably
    deserve, you may have to cry because police tell us that works. But
    you have to really CRY. Let it all out in a sobbing, hyperventilating,
    bawling kind of cry. When the officer asks you if you are okay, just
    say no. Tell him/her that you're scared. Just make it believable. And
    keep on crying.


    BEG: If the cop seems intent on writing you a ticket, tell them you
    just can't afford the fine. They may at least charge you with a lesser
    offense than what they had originally planned. Tell the officer that a
    ticket on your record could impact your job. Or mention that you might
    get in huge trouble at home for a ticket..


    DON"T SAY THESE THINGS:


    1. "What's the problem officer?" This immediate response most people
    have has become a cliché for officers. They hate it.



    2. "Was I ________?" (fill in with whatever traffic rule you were
    violating). A guilty admission from you that you knew you were doing
    something wrong.

    3. "I'm sorry" unless you really mean that you are truly sorry because
    this usually stands for, "I'm sorry that you caught me."



    4. "You just stopped me because I'm ________." Put your race in here.
    If the cop is racist then this remark isn't exactly going to help your
    situation and might serve to anger the officer. And if the officer is
    not racist, then you've just accused him/her of it.

    5. "I'll see you in court," This will put the officer on defense and a
    defensive cop is more likely to give you a ticket.


    6. NEVER get out of the car unless instructed to do so.


    7. NEVER reach for your pockets or under the seat without first
    explaining why.


    8. NEVER open your glove box unless asked to do so by the officer.


    9. NEVER allow your passengers to talk to the officers unless
    instructed to do so.


    10. NEVER consent to a search of your car without first asking for
    probable cause.


    GOING TO COURT:


    So none of our advice worked and you are going to court. All is not
    lost however. Over 95% of traffic tickets are not contested, but
    that's because people are lazy, pay up or choose to go to traffic
    school. Naturally, as an online traffic school (
    http://www.internettrafficschool.com ) we are biased but going to
    traffic school is in 90% of the cases your best alternative because it
    is really hard to win in court. 97% of all traffic court cases are
    decided in favor of the officer, that is reality. And if you go to
    court and lose, you can't go to traffic school, your ticket will go on
    your record and your insurance will go up.


    Anyway, slow down, follow our rules and you won't be using us. You
    will be ticket-free.
     
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  2. On 6 Dec 2004 04:15:28 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

    >The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is to make sure that nothing
    >about your car draws an officer's attention.


    The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is not to commit traffic
    offences. It has worked flawlessly for me for some years now. As a
    collateral benefit it has also improved my fuel consumption and made
    my tyres last longer. I have yet to find any downside!

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
     
  3. Jeff Starr

    Jeff Starr Guest

    On 6 Dec 2004 04:15:28 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

    >STICKERS
    >
    >
    >There are two kinds of stickers that you should really avoid, anything
    >anti-cop or pro-violence. The second kind that are drug related such
    >as dope stickers or Grateful Dead stickers will catch a cop's eye and
    >usually lead them to make assumptions about drug use.
    >
    >

    This might it explain why, when I was pulled over for speeding 3 or 4
    times [which I was doing], I didn't get any breaks. I had an '86 Izuzu
    Impulse Turbo with a "HE'S GNE" license plate, in a Grateful Dead
    license plate bracket. On both rear side windows, I had a "Steal Your
    Face" sticker, with a few other, Dead related decals.

    I'm not surprised, but it was more important to display my loyalties,
    rather than be stealth. Now I'm older and slightly wiser;-)

    As to the plate, at that time Wisconsin only allowed 6 characters, so
    no room for the O. It has been a long time and I don't remember, why I
    didn't go with "GON".

    If I get somewhere that sells the one inch "Steal Your Face" sticker,
    I'll put one my bicycle. Seeing as the bike is blue with red accents,
    it will fit right in.


    Life is Good!
    Jeff
     
  4. On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:43:24 +0000, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

    > On 6 Dec 2004 04:15:28 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >>The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is to make sure that nothing
    >>about your car draws an officer's attention.

    >
    > The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is not to commit traffic
    > offences.


    Or, to make this slightly closer to the topic, ride your bike.

    I have yet to get a ticket riding my bike, though I am hoping for a
    speeding ticket -- just so long as it's in a 30mph (or higher) zone.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | Enron's slogan: Respect, Communication, Integrity, and
    _`\(,_ | Excellence.
    (_)/ (_) |
     
  5. Neil Brooks

    Neil Brooks Guest

    Jeff Starr wrote:

    > If I get somewhere that sells the one inch "Steal Your Face" sticker,
    > I'll put one my bicycle. Seeing as the bike is blue with red accents,
    > it will fit right in.


    1) Bless your GD-loving heart. Lots and lots of shows in my day, but then .
    .. . .

    2) You should be able to find the small Steal Your Face stickers quite
    readily. In fact, they have the metallized versions that hold up to weather
    and (?) abuse quite well. Local "head shops" usually stock 'em. Aw, heck.
    Here: http://snipurl.com/b5kz.

    If 1.5" doesn't work, get a new bike ;-)
     
  6. Neil Brooks

    Neil Brooks Guest

    Jeff Starr wrote:

    >> If I get somewhere that sells the one inch "Steal Your Face" sticker,
    >> I'll put one my bicycle. Seeing as the bike is blue with red accents,
    >> it will fit right in.


    Neil Brooks wrote:

    > 1) Bless your GD-loving heart. Lots and lots of shows in my day, but
    > then . . . .
    >
    > 2) You should be able to find the small Steal Your Face stickers quite
    > readily. In fact, they have the metallized versions that hold up to
    > weather and (?) abuse quite well. Local "head shops" usually stock
    > 'em. Aw, heck. Here: http://snipurl.com/b5kz.
    >
    > If 1.5" doesn't work, get a new bike ;-)


    Hold that thought. 1" versions are available! http://snipurl.com/b5l4

    Wave that flag, Jeff. Wave it wide and high! Two bucks seems a small price
    to pay . . .
     
  7. Neil Brooks

    Neil Brooks Guest

    [thought I posted this, but don't see it....]

    Jeff Starr wrote:

    >> If I get somewhere that sells the one inch "Steal Your Face" sticker,
    >> I'll put one my bicycle. Seeing as the bike is blue with red accents,
    >> it will fit right in.


    Neil Brooks wrote:

    > 1) Bless your GD-loving heart. Lots and lots of shows in my day, but
    > then . . . .
    >
    > 2) You should be able to find the small Steal Your Face stickers quite
    > readily. In fact, they have the metallized versions that hold up to
    > weather and (?) abuse quite well. Local "head shops" usually stock
    > 'em. Aw, heck. Here: http://snipurl.com/b5kz.
    >
    > If 1.5" doesn't work, get a new bike


    Hold that thought. 1" versions /are/ available! http://snipurl.com/b5l4

    Wave that flag, Jeff. Wave it wide and high! Two bucks seems a small price
    to pay . . .
     
  8. Jeff Starr

    Jeff Starr Guest

    On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:54:11 GMT, "Neil Brooks" <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    >Hold that thought. 1" versions are available! http://snipurl.com/b5l4
    >
    >Wave that flag, Jeff. Wave it wide and high! Two bucks seems a small price
    >to pay . . .
    >


    Hi Neil, thanks for the heads up;-) I had a couple of the small metal
    ones, but I stuck them on a pair of Klipsch LaScalas, that I no longer
    own.
    I will have to get an order together, for Liquid Blue, sometime in the
    future. Thet have a $20 minimum order policy.
    If it was a high priority, I'm sure I could find them locally. It has
    been quite a while, since I did any regular shopping at a Head Shop. I
    do know that the one I frequented is no longer in business. Times
    change, Pig died, Brent died, Jerry died, but the music still lives
    on.
    "And he's gone, and nothin's gonna bring him back".


    Life is Good!
    Jeff
     
  9. Rich

    Rich Guest

    David L. Johnson wrote:
    > On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:43:24 +0000, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
    >>>The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is to make sure that nothing
    >>>about your car draws an officer's attention.


    > Or, to make this slightly closer to the topic, ride your bike.
    >
    > I have yet to get a ticket riding my bike, though I am hoping for a
    > speeding ticket


    I got pulled over on my bike once, for rolling through a stop sign.
    When the cop asked for my license, I asked him if I needed a license for
    a bike. He said no, so I said I didn't have one on me (which was true).
    I didn't get a ticket, I'm not sure why, as I was pretty
    disrespectful. Perhaps he didn't know if he could give me a ticket,
    given I wasn't operating a motor vehicle. I'm not sure if they can,
    given you don't need a license for a bike.

    Rich
     
  10. Times
    > change, Pig died, Brent died, Jerry died, but the music still lives
    > on.
    > "And he's gone, and nothin's gonna bring him back".
    >
    >
    > Life is Good!
    > Jeff


    damn right. got a highspeed internet connection?
    http://tinyurl.com/39kv2
    there are 2774 GD concerts available for streaming/download.

    enjoy
    --


    jmed
     
  11. Hunrobe

    Hunrobe Guest

    > Rich [email protected]

    wrote in part:

    >Perhaps he didn't know if he could give me a ticket,
    >given I wasn't operating a motor vehicle. I'm not sure if they can,
    >given you don't need a license for a bike.


    It's a no brainer. One doesn't need a license to walk either but jaywalking
    tickets still get issued, right?

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt
     
  12. dgk

    dgk Guest

    On 08 Dec 2004 06:21:32 GMT, [email protected] (Hunrobe) wrote:

    >> Rich [email protected]

    >
    >wrote in part:
    >
    >>Perhaps he didn't know if he could give me a ticket,
    >>given I wasn't operating a motor vehicle. I'm not sure if they can,
    >>given you don't need a license for a bike.

    >
    >It's a no brainer. One doesn't need a license to walk either but jaywalking
    >tickets still get issued, right?
    >
    >Regards,
    >Bob Hunt


    There are bike cops in NYC that hand out tickets to bikers. On one of
    my first commutes home I was stopped at a light and another biker went
    flying through it. And got stopped halfway down the next block by
    cops. He deserved it. As I posted before, I will run red lights. But
    not when it causes other folks grief trying to avoid hitting you.
    Anyway, I just looked at the messenger waiting next to me and he said
    that they were from the bike unit and had been at that intersection
    all day.
     
  13. dgk

    dgk Guest

    On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:46:58 -0700, "Jason Medeiros"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Times
    >> change, Pig died, Brent died, Jerry died, but the music still lives
    >> on.
    >> "And he's gone, and nothin's gonna bring him back".
    >>
    >>
    >> Life is Good!
    >> Jeff

    >
    >damn right. got a highspeed internet connection?
    >http://tinyurl.com/39kv2
    >there are 2774 GD concerts available for streaming/download.
    >
    >enjoy


    Crap, I have all of those.

    GD was certainly a bad band to be the keyboard player for.
     
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