Re: Ever get a traffic ticket?



Here are some traffic ticket facts. How many traffic tickets there
are? What to say to the police and not say and what to do if you
decide to fight your traffic ticket by going to court. And how to
avoid getting them in the first place.


Although we are a traffic school, we want to help you avoid getting
traffic tickets. Avoid having to go to a defensive driving course like
ours and avoid paying more money on your insurance policy.


First you need to know that there are two major types of traffic
tickets - tickets for moving violations and tickets for non-moving
violations. Moving violations include speeding, failure to obey
traffic signs or lights, illegal turns, or doing anything else illegal
while your car is in motion. Non-moving violations are for offenses
like parking your car illegally.


TICKET FACTS: Every year, over 34 million people receive a traffic
ticket from a police officer. Most traffic tickets charge fines
averaging around $150.00. 34 million tickets at $150.00 equals profits
of over $5 billion. The money collected from traffic tickets supports
much of our civil service industry, including police officers,
accountants, court secretaries, bailiffs, judges, district attorneys,
insurance companies, attorneys, and traffic schools like ours at,
www.internettrafficschool.com


The number one rule of not getting a traffic ticket is not putting
yourself into the position of looking like you should get one. Here
are some of the things you should be aware of. Your car's color,
modifications, condition, cleanliness, and stickers.


The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is to make sure that nothing
about your car draws an officer's attention. Flashy and bright colors,
particularly red, draw a person's attention, namely a cop's attention.
Light, pastel colors have a tendency to blend with the environment and
dark colors like black not only blend in, they look serious. So, if
you have chosen a brightly colored vehicle, know that your chances of
getting pulled over are higher than the racer in the black car
speeding past you. Thus, be more wary about that you are more visible
if your car is red.


MODIFICATIONS:


Any additional sound or light modifications can also draw a cop's
attention. Neon running lights, thumping sound also mean that with
your cool-style points, you will also get more points on your license
(the more points you get on your license, the closer you are to losing
your license, possibly permanently). And, cops also seem to hate
tinted windows. If you don't have tinted windows, don't get them. If
you do, make sure you immediately roll all of your windows down the
minute you get pulled over. This allows the cop better vision into
your car giving her/him more confidence about the situation. When the
cop is relaxed, your chances of avoiding the ticket are better.


CONDITION


Cars, like clothes, make can make a good or bad impression. People who
take care of their cars look like they're responsible drivers. And a
dented car is one that has gotten into accidents before, thus catching
a cop's eye better.


APPEARANCE


The cleanliness of your car also makes a definite impression with the
cop who pulls you over. Make sure the exterior of your car is clean,
but also focus on the interior. Clean out the inside of your car from
clutter. Make sure that your glove box is fairly clean so that you
don't have to search for your registration.


STICKERS


There are two kinds of stickers that you should really avoid, anything
anti-cop or pro-violence. The second kind that are drug related such
as dope stickers or Grateful Dead stickers will catch a cop's eye and
usually lead them to make assumptions about drug use.


TICKET QUOTAS


Most police departments give traffic tickets on a quota system. This
means that there are some times of the month when you are more likely
to get a tickets. First, be wary during the first week of a month;
this is when the most aggressive cops give out the most tickets.
Second, be wary the last week of the month; this is the time when cops
who haven't given many tickets are under the pressure to give out
more. And on Sundays mornings, because it is easy to give out tickets
to people going to church, good people = a smaller chance of getting
shot


GETTING PULLED OVER


When you get pulled over, you naturally think to not say anything at
all for fear of saying the wrong thing. TALK! Because silence is often
an indication of something to hide.


The first thing you need to know is what to call the cop that pulls
you. So you need to try to guess the officer's proper title:


If the officer's uniform has three or more stripes, chances are, (s)he
is a Sergeant.
One or two stripes usually indicates a Corporal.
An officer with no stripes but in a State Police car is a Trooper. No
stripes and a County car is a Deputy. If you aren't sure, stick with
"Officer."


DO NOT treat a female cop differently. Don't say anything to a female
cop that you would not say to a male cop.


HOW TO GET OUT OF IT


CRY: If you're willing to try to get out of a ticket you probably
deserve, you may have to cry because police tell us that works. But
you have to really CRY. Let it all out in a sobbing, hyperventilating,
bawling kind of cry. When the officer asks you if you are okay, just
say no. Tell him/her that you're scared. Just make it believable. And
keep on crying.


BEG: If the cop seems intent on writing you a ticket, tell them you
just can't afford the fine. They may at least charge you with a lesser
offense than what they had originally planned. Tell the officer that a
ticket on your record could impact your job. Or mention that you might
get in huge trouble at home for a ticket..


DON"T SAY THESE THINGS:


1. "What's the problem officer?" This immediate response most people
have has become a cliché for officers. They hate it.



2. "Was I ________?" (fill in with whatever traffic rule you were
violating). A guilty admission from you that you knew you were doing
something wrong.

3. "I'm sorry" unless you really mean that you are truly sorry because
this usually stands for, "I'm sorry that you caught me."



4. "You just stopped me because I'm ________." Put your race in here.
If the cop is racist then this remark isn't exactly going to help your
situation and might serve to anger the officer. And if the officer is
not racist, then you've just accused him/her of it.

5. "I'll see you in court," This will put the officer on defense and a
defensive cop is more likely to give you a ticket.


6. NEVER get out of the car unless instructed to do so.


7. NEVER reach for your pockets or under the seat without first
explaining why.


8. NEVER open your glove box unless asked to do so by the officer.


9. NEVER allow your passengers to talk to the officers unless
instructed to do so.


10. NEVER consent to a search of your car without first asking for
probable cause.


GOING TO COURT:


So none of our advice worked and you are going to court. All is not
lost however. Over 95% of traffic tickets are not contested, but
that's because people are lazy, pay up or choose to go to traffic
school. Naturally, as an online traffic school (
http://www.internettrafficschool.com ) we are biased but going to
traffic school is in 90% of the cases your best alternative because it
is really hard to win in court. 97% of all traffic court cases are
decided in favor of the officer, that is reality. And if you go to
court and lose, you can't go to traffic school, your ticket will go on
your record and your insurance will go up.


Anyway, slow down, follow our rules and you won't be using us. You
will be ticket-free.
 
J

Just zis Guy, you know?

Guest
On 6 Dec 2004 04:15:28 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is to make sure that nothing
>about your car draws an officer's attention.


The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is not to commit traffic
offences. It has worked flawlessly for me for some years now. As a
collateral benefit it has also improved my fuel consumption and made
my tyres last longer. I have yet to find any downside!

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
 
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Jeff Starr

Guest
On 6 Dec 2004 04:15:28 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>STICKERS
>
>
>There are two kinds of stickers that you should really avoid, anything
>anti-cop or pro-violence. The second kind that are drug related such
>as dope stickers or Grateful Dead stickers will catch a cop's eye and
>usually lead them to make assumptions about drug use.
>
>

This might it explain why, when I was pulled over for speeding 3 or 4
times [which I was doing], I didn't get any breaks. I had an '86 Izuzu
Impulse Turbo with a "HE'S GNE" license plate, in a Grateful Dead
license plate bracket. On both rear side windows, I had a "Steal Your
Face" sticker, with a few other, Dead related decals.

I'm not surprised, but it was more important to display my loyalties,
rather than be stealth. Now I'm older and slightly wiser;-)

As to the plate, at that time Wisconsin only allowed 6 characters, so
no room for the O. It has been a long time and I don't remember, why I
didn't go with "GON".

If I get somewhere that sells the one inch "Steal Your Face" sticker,
I'll put one my bicycle. Seeing as the bike is blue with red accents,
it will fit right in.


Life is Good!
Jeff
 
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David L. Johnson

Guest
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:43:24 +0000, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

> On 6 Dec 2004 04:15:28 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is to make sure that nothing
>>about your car draws an officer's attention.

>
> The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is not to commit traffic
> offences.


Or, to make this slightly closer to the topic, ride your bike.

I have yet to get a ticket riding my bike, though I am hoping for a
speeding ticket -- just so long as it's in a 30mph (or higher) zone.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | Enron's slogan: Respect, Communication, Integrity, and
_`\(,_ | Excellence.
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Neil Brooks

Guest
Jeff Starr wrote:

> If I get somewhere that sells the one inch "Steal Your Face" sticker,
> I'll put one my bicycle. Seeing as the bike is blue with red accents,
> it will fit right in.


1) Bless your GD-loving heart. Lots and lots of shows in my day, but then .
.. . .

2) You should be able to find the small Steal Your Face stickers quite
readily. In fact, they have the metallized versions that hold up to weather
and (?) abuse quite well. Local "head shops" usually stock 'em. Aw, heck.
Here: http://snipurl.com/b5kz.

If 1.5" doesn't work, get a new bike ;-)
 
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Neil Brooks

Guest
Jeff Starr wrote:

>> If I get somewhere that sells the one inch "Steal Your Face" sticker,
>> I'll put one my bicycle. Seeing as the bike is blue with red accents,
>> it will fit right in.


Neil Brooks wrote:

> 1) Bless your GD-loving heart. Lots and lots of shows in my day, but
> then . . . .
>
> 2) You should be able to find the small Steal Your Face stickers quite
> readily. In fact, they have the metallized versions that hold up to
> weather and (?) abuse quite well. Local "head shops" usually stock
> 'em. Aw, heck. Here: http://snipurl.com/b5kz.
>
> If 1.5" doesn't work, get a new bike ;-)


Hold that thought. 1" versions are available! http://snipurl.com/b5l4

Wave that flag, Jeff. Wave it wide and high! Two bucks seems a small price
to pay . . .
 
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Neil Brooks

Guest
[thought I posted this, but don't see it....]

Jeff Starr wrote:

>> If I get somewhere that sells the one inch "Steal Your Face" sticker,
>> I'll put one my bicycle. Seeing as the bike is blue with red accents,
>> it will fit right in.


Neil Brooks wrote:

> 1) Bless your GD-loving heart. Lots and lots of shows in my day, but
> then . . . .
>
> 2) You should be able to find the small Steal Your Face stickers quite
> readily. In fact, they have the metallized versions that hold up to
> weather and (?) abuse quite well. Local "head shops" usually stock
> 'em. Aw, heck. Here: http://snipurl.com/b5kz.
>
> If 1.5" doesn't work, get a new bike


Hold that thought. 1" versions /are/ available! http://snipurl.com/b5l4

Wave that flag, Jeff. Wave it wide and high! Two bucks seems a small price
to pay . . .
 
J

Jeff Starr

Guest
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:54:11 GMT, "Neil Brooks" <[email protected]>
wrote:


>Hold that thought. 1" versions are available! http://snipurl.com/b5l4
>
>Wave that flag, Jeff. Wave it wide and high! Two bucks seems a small price
>to pay . . .
>


Hi Neil, thanks for the heads up;-) I had a couple of the small metal
ones, but I stuck them on a pair of Klipsch LaScalas, that I no longer
own.
I will have to get an order together, for Liquid Blue, sometime in the
future. Thet have a $20 minimum order policy.
If it was a high priority, I'm sure I could find them locally. It has
been quite a while, since I did any regular shopping at a Head Shop. I
do know that the one I frequented is no longer in business. Times
change, Pig died, Brent died, Jerry died, but the music still lives
on.
"And he's gone, and nothin's gonna bring him back".


Life is Good!
Jeff
 
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Rich

Guest
David L. Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:43:24 +0000, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>>The best way to avoid a traffic ticket is to make sure that nothing
>>>about your car draws an officer's attention.


> Or, to make this slightly closer to the topic, ride your bike.
>
> I have yet to get a ticket riding my bike, though I am hoping for a
> speeding ticket


I got pulled over on my bike once, for rolling through a stop sign.
When the cop asked for my license, I asked him if I needed a license for
a bike. He said no, so I said I didn't have one on me (which was true).
I didn't get a ticket, I'm not sure why, as I was pretty
disrespectful. Perhaps he didn't know if he could give me a ticket,
given I wasn't operating a motor vehicle. I'm not sure if they can,
given you don't need a license for a bike.

Rich
 
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Jason Medeiros

Guest
Times
> change, Pig died, Brent died, Jerry died, but the music still lives
> on.
> "And he's gone, and nothin's gonna bring him back".
>
>
> Life is Good!
> Jeff


damn right. got a highspeed internet connection?
http://tinyurl.com/39kv2
there are 2774 GD concerts available for streaming/download.

enjoy
--


jmed
 
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Hunrobe

Guest
> Rich [email protected]

wrote in part:

>Perhaps he didn't know if he could give me a ticket,
>given I wasn't operating a motor vehicle. I'm not sure if they can,
>given you don't need a license for a bike.


It's a no brainer. One doesn't need a license to walk either but jaywalking
tickets still get issued, right?

Regards,
Bob Hunt
 
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dgk

Guest
On 08 Dec 2004 06:21:32 GMT, [email protected] (Hunrobe) wrote:

>> Rich [email protected]

>
>wrote in part:
>
>>Perhaps he didn't know if he could give me a ticket,
>>given I wasn't operating a motor vehicle. I'm not sure if they can,
>>given you don't need a license for a bike.

>
>It's a no brainer. One doesn't need a license to walk either but jaywalking
>tickets still get issued, right?
>
>Regards,
>Bob Hunt


There are bike cops in NYC that hand out tickets to bikers. On one of
my first commutes home I was stopped at a light and another biker went
flying through it. And got stopped halfway down the next block by
cops. He deserved it. As I posted before, I will run red lights. But
not when it causes other folks grief trying to avoid hitting you.
Anyway, I just looked at the messenger waiting next to me and he said
that they were from the bike unit and had been at that intersection
all day.
 
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dgk

Guest
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:46:58 -0700, "Jason Medeiros"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Times
>> change, Pig died, Brent died, Jerry died, but the music still lives
>> on.
>> "And he's gone, and nothin's gonna bring him back".
>>
>>
>> Life is Good!
>> Jeff

>
>damn right. got a highspeed internet connection?
>http://tinyurl.com/39kv2
>there are 2774 GD concerts available for streaming/download.
>
>enjoy


****, I have all of those.

GD was certainly a bad band to be the keyboard player for.